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£1m for Rose

£2m for Taarabt

£1m for Parret

 

Dunno about the others.

 

 

 

 

Parret and Rose will rise to a million or maybe a bit over but thats with future add ons included.

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None of those are poor players tbh.

 

Comolli signed:

 

Berbatov   £10 mill

Steed   £2.5 mill

Bale   £5 mill rising to £10 mill

Hutton  £8 mill

Zokora  £8 mill

Kaboul   £8 mill

Boateng  £5 mill

Woodgate £7 mill

Bent  £16.5 mill

 

plus those 6 youngsters for peanuts. Wouldnt exactly say he's done a bad job tbh.

 

 

How many would you say represent good value?

 

Aye, and before you answer please take into consideration:

 

£250,000 – N’Zogbia to Newcastle

£500,000 – Chimbonda to Wigan

£12.24m – Ronaldo to Man United

 

 

That's ridiculous.

 

You've basically taken 3 of the best value for money transfers of recent times and are using them as a point of reference.

 

The best three? Rubbish. There are plenty of bargains around.

 

£3m – Adebayor to Arsenal

£5m – Lescott to Everton

Free – Aurélio to Liverpool

£8m – Anelka to Bolton

£4m – Muamba to Brum

£4.7m – Petrov to City

£3.5m - Santa Cruz to Blackburn

How much did Blackburn pay for Bentley?

 

Spurs have pissed a load of money away… I know, a bit rich coming from a Newcastle fan, but we at least acknowledge our bad business.

 

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Damien Comolli faces questions over future

 

Gary Jacob

 

Damien Comolli is fighting to save his position as Tottenham Hotspur sporting director. The Frenchman has this summer's transfer window to recoup some of the substantial amount of money that the club have spent, under his direction, on players in recent seasons or risk being sacked in the autumn after three years in his post.

 

Comolli's tenure has come under scrutiny in part because of the estimated fall in the value of some of his expensive acquisitions and some disagreements with Juande Ramos, the Tottenham head coach. Darren Bent, Younès Kaboul, Ricardo Rocha and Kevin-Prince Boateng cost a combined fee of about £32million in the past 18 months, but they are now arguably worth half that sum. This has led to questions about whether Comolli is delivering value for money.

 

Tottenham would not want to disrupt their transfer strategy this summer by dismissing Comolli now. Daniel Levy, the chairman, has shown that he is willing to give his staff an opportunity to turn things around. He backed Glenn Hoddle when the board voted on his managerial future five years ago and supported Martin Jol, the manager last summer, when one director at the club wanted to replace the Dutchman with Harry Redknapp, the Portsmouth manager.

 

Some fans have questioned Comolli's ability to spot a good player, but that does not appear to be a concern inside the club. However, there is some disquiet at White Hart Lane at the money - and hence profit - that could be raised by the sale of the players who have arrived under Comolli.

 

There are also questions over the fees paid for some players. Gilberto, a 31-year-old Brazil left back, cost £1.8million in January, when he had six months remaining on his contract at Hertha Berlin. He arrived overweight and unfit. Boateng was bought for nearly £5million last summer, also from Hertha, despite Seville, the other suitor, offering half as much. Before that, eyebrows were raised at the arrivals of Danny Murphy and Mido for a combined fee of £6.5million.

 

Comolli will have a chance to realign his transfer balance sheet, with Dimitar Berbatov expected to realise a profit of about £17million on the £10.9million paid to Bayer Leverkusen in 2006, if the Bulgaria forward leaves.

 

Signings are not only the responsibility of Comolli. Every member of Tottenham's management group, comprising Levy, Comolli, Ramos and John Alexander, the club secretary, are supposed to agree about a particular player. However, Jol has since complained that he did not want some of the acquisitions, while Ramos rejected eight players offered to him in January.

 

The club backed Comolli during his disagreements with Jol, but it is not certain that they will do so with Ramos, who holds a stronger bargaining position. There is no suggestion that the club will discard their continental structure, brought in by Levy. Ramos enjoyed success working under the system at Seville, where Ramón Rodríguez Monchi, the sporting director with whom he had an uncomfortable relationship, was credited with discovering the best players.

 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/tottenham/article3950212.ece

 

 

Quite stunning that! This guy has blown a hell of a lot of money on a bunch of players who don't even make the team anymore. Shocking stuff.

 

It's why they are so far ahead of us dontchya know.  mackems.gif

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None of those are poor players tbh.

 

Comolli signed:

 

Berbatov  £10 mill

Steed  £2.5 mill

Bale  £5 mill rising to £10 mill

Hutton  £8 mill

Zokora  £8 mill

Kaboul  £8 mill

Boateng  £5 mill

Woodgate £7 mill

Bent  £16.5 mill

 

plus those 6 youngsters for peanuts. Wouldnt exactly say he's done a bad job tbh.

 

 

How many would you say represent good value?

 

Aye, and before you answer please take into consideration:

 

£250,000 – N’Zogbia to Newcastle

£500,000 – Chimbonda to Wigan

£12.24m – Ronaldo to Man United

 

 

That's ridiculous.

 

You've basically taken 3 of the best value for money transfers of recent times and are using them as a point of reference.

 

The best three? Rubbish. There are plenty of bargains around.

 

£3m – Adebayor to Arsenal

£5m – Lescott to Everton

Free – Aurélio to Liverpool

£8m – Anelka to Bolton

£4m – Muamba to Brum

£4.7m – Petrov to City

£3.5m - Santa Cruz to Blackburn

How much did Blackburn pay for Bentley?

 

Spurs have pissed a load of money away… I know, a bit rich coming from a Newcastle fan, but we at least acknowledge our bad business.

 

 

http://www.uk.pg.com/images/bold_logo.gif

 

They've made some signings that maybe haven't worked out, but nobody gets it right every time. It's a very tough business trying to find value for money every single time, nobody manages it.

 

Of the players above you have to fancy that if they sold them all on they'd get close to their money back, so it's hardly that bad a showing at all is it?

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None of those are poor players tbh.

 

Comolli signed:

 

Berbatov   £10 mill

Steed   £2.5 mill

Bale   £5 mill rising to £10 mill

Hutton  £8 mill

Zokora  £8 mill

Kaboul   £8 mill

Boateng  £5 mill

Woodgate £7 mill

Bent  £16.5 mill

 

plus those 6 youngsters for peanuts. Wouldnt exactly say he's done a bad job tbh.

 

 

How many would you say represent good value?

 

Aye, and before you answer please take into consideration:

 

£250,000 – N’Zogbia to Newcastle

£500,000 – Chimbonda to Wigan

£12.24m – Ronaldo to Man United

 

 

That's ridiculous.

 

You've basically taken 3 of the best value for money transfers of recent times and are using them as a point of reference.

 

The best three? Rubbish. There are plenty of bargains around.

 

£3m – Adebayor to Arsenal

£5m – Lescott to Everton

Free – Aurélio to Liverpool

£8m – Anelka to Bolton

£4m – Muamba to Brum

£4.7m – Petrov to City

£3.5m - Santa Cruz to Blackburn

How much did Blackburn pay for Bentley?

 

Spurs have pissed a load of money away… I know, a bit rich coming from a Newcastle fan, but we at least acknowledge our bad business.

 

 

http://www.uk.pg.com/images/bold_logo.gif

 

They've made some signings that maybe haven't worked out, but nobody gets it right every time. It's a very tough business trying to find value for money every single time, nobody manages it.

 

Of the players above you have to fancy that if they sold them all on they'd get close to their money back, so it's hardly that bad a showing at all is it?

 

They'd lose money on all but Berbatov, Steed, Woodgate (depending on fitness), and possibly Bale (too early to tell).

 

Hutton, Zokora, Kaboul, Boateng, and Bent they've paid well over the odds for.

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None of those are poor players tbh.

 

Comolli signed:

 

Berbatov  £10 mill

Steed  £2.5 mill

Bale  £5 mill rising to £10 mill

Hutton  £8 mill

Zokora  £8 mill

Kaboul  £8 mill

Boateng  £5 mill

Woodgate £7 mill

Bent  £16.5 mill

 

plus those 6 youngsters for peanuts. Wouldnt exactly say he's done a bad job tbh.

 

 

How many would you say represent good value?

 

Aye, and before you answer please take into consideration:

 

£250,000 – N’Zogbia to Newcastle

£500,000 – Chimbonda to Wigan

£12.24m – Ronaldo to Man United

 

 

That's ridiculous.

 

You've basically taken 3 of the best value for money transfers of recent times and are using them as a point of reference.

 

The best three? Rubbish. There are plenty of bargains around.

 

£3m – Adebayor to Arsenal

£5m – Lescott to Everton

Free – Aurélio to Liverpool

£8m – Anelka to Bolton

£4m – Muamba to Brum

£4.7m – Petrov to City

£3.5m - Santa Cruz to Blackburn

How much did Blackburn pay for Bentley?

 

Spurs have pissed a load of money away… I know, a bit rich coming from a Newcastle fan, but we at least acknowledge our bad business.

 

 

http://www.uk.pg.com/images/bold_logo.gif

 

They've made some signings that maybe haven't worked out, but nobody gets it right every time. It's a very tough business trying to find value for money every single time, nobody manages it.

 

Of the players above you have to fancy that if they sold them all on they'd get close to their money back, so it's hardly that bad a showing at all is it?

 

They'd lose money on all but Berbatov, Steed, Woodgate (depending on fitness), and possibly Bale (too early to tell).

 

Hutton, Zokora, Kaboul, Boateng, and Bent they've paid well over the odds for.

 

I'd wager that the profit on Berbatov would offset the small losses they'd admittedly make on some of the others.

 

But, overall, it's a solid return all things considered.

 

Anyway, this defending Spurs business I'm engaging in is hurting my heart, so I'll cease from here on.

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None of those are poor players tbh.

 

 

Ok I'll rephrase that, poor players for the money (very poor in some cases).

 

The best three? Rubbish. There are plenty of bargains around.

 

£3m – Adebayor to Arsenal

£5m – Lescott to Everton

Free – Aurélio to Liverpool

£8m – Anelka to Bolton

£4m – Muamba to Brum

£4.7m – Petrov to City

£3.5m - Santa Cruz to Blackburn

How much did Blackburn pay for Bentley?

 

Spurs have pissed a load of money away… I know, a bit rich coming from a Newcastle fan, but we at least acknowledge our bad business.

 

 

I'd definitely add Solano to that at £2.7 million as well.

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I'd wager that the profit on Berbatov would offset the small losses they'd admittedly make on some of the others.

 

But, overall, it's a solid return all things considered.

 

Anyway, this defending Spurs business I'm engaging in is hurting my heart, so I'll cease from here on.

 

I'm not so sure. It was closer to £11m Spurs paid for Berbatov. I can see the potential profit on him and the potential losses on Bent alone cancelling each other out.

 

Anyway, you're right... enough. Spurs are not worth getting worked up over either way.

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None of those are poor players tbh.

 

 

Ok I'll rephrase that, poor players for the money (very poor in some cases).

 

The best three? Rubbish. There are plenty of bargains around.

 

£3m – Adebayor to Arsenal

£5m – Lescott to Everton

Free – Aurélio to Liverpool

£8m – Anelka to Bolton

£4m – Muamba to Brum

£4.7m – Petrov to City

£3.5m - Santa Cruz to Blackburn

How much did Blackburn pay for Bentley?

 

Spurs have pissed a load of money away… I know, a bit rich coming from a Newcastle fan, but we at least acknowledge our bad business.

 

 

I'd definitely add Solano to that at £2.7 million as well.

 

Different era, but you're right. Good deal that was. West Ham picking him up for nowt was another good deal - although arguably a player Spurs wouldn't have wanted.

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The piece by Gary Jacob is very selective to say the least.  8 players were rejected by Ramos.  I'm surprised tbh, I would have expected it to be more and it probably is.  Ramos wants a particular position filled, Comolli comes up with a collection of names who he knows are/could be available.  Some names move forward to the next stage, some are discarded for whatever reason. 

 

The preferred order is agreed by Ramos and Comolli then put to the Transfer Committee (Ramos, Comolli, Levy and Alexander).The financial side is discussed and agreed then Comolli tries to get the deal done.  Jacob's article suggests that Comolli is going around making these deals like a loose cannon.  The reality is totally different.  Darren Bent, for example, was agreed at a much lower fee than £15.5m rising to £16.5m before West Ham intervened.  The final say to proceed at the higher level  of fee was Levy's and took into account the belief that Berbatov would be on his way in that window. 

 

Of course Comolli's recommendations aren't going to be right every time but they are more right than wrong imho.

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The piece by Gary Jacob is very selective to say the least.  8 players were rejected by Ramos.  I'm surprised tbh, I would have expected it to be more and it probably is.  Ramos wants a particular position filled, Comolli comes up with a collection of names who he knows are/could be available.  Some names move forward to the next stage, some are discarded for whatever reason. 

 

The preferred order is agreed by Ramos and Comolli then put to the Transfer Committee (Ramos, Comolli, Levy and Alexander).The financial side is discussed and agreed then Comolli tries to get the deal done.  Jacob's article suggests that Comolli is going around making these deals like a loose cannon.  The reality is totally different.  Darren Bent, for example, was agreed at a much lower fee than £15.5m rising to £16.5m before West Ham intervened.  The final say to proceed at the higher level  of fee was Levy's and took into account the belief that Berbatov would be on his way in that window. 

 

Of course Comolli's recommendations aren't going to be right every time but they are more right than wrong imho.

 

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I'd wager that the profit on Berbatov would offset the small losses they'd admittedly make on some of the others.

 

But, overall, it's a solid return all things considered.

 

Anyway, this defending Spurs business I'm engaging in is hurting my heart, so I'll cease from here on.

 

I'm not so sure. It was closer to £11m Spurs paid for Berbatov. I can see the potential profit on him and the potential losses on Bent alone cancelling each other out.

 

Anyway, you're right... enough. Spurs are not worth getting worked up over either way.

 

Bent is only worth £2 million?

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I'd wager that the profit on Berbatov would offset the small losses they'd admittedly make on some of the others.

 

But, overall, it's a solid return all things considered.

 

Anyway, this defending Spurs business I'm engaging in is hurting my heart, so I'll cease from here on.

 

I'm not so sure. It was closer to £11m Spurs paid for Berbatov. I can see the potential profit on him and the potential losses on Bent alone cancelling each other out.

 

Anyway, you're right... enough. Spurs are not worth getting worked up over either way.

 

Bent is only worth £2 million?

 

Why, how much have they sold Berbatov for?

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I'd wager that the profit on Berbatov would offset the small losses they'd admittedly make on some of the others.

 

But, overall, it's a solid return all things considered.

 

Anyway, this defending Spurs business I'm engaging in is hurting my heart, so I'll cease from here on.

 

I'm not so sure. It was closer to £11m Spurs paid for Berbatov. I can see the potential profit on him and the potential losses on Bent alone cancelling each other out.

 

Anyway, you're right... enough. Spurs are not worth getting worked up over either way.

 

Bent is only worth £2 million?

 

Why, how much have they sold Berbatov for?

 

He will go for around £25 million.

 

Why? How much do you think both players would go for if they were sold?

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I'd wager that the profit on Berbatov would offset the small losses they'd admittedly make on some of the others.

 

But, overall, it's a solid return all things considered.

 

Anyway, this defending Spurs business I'm engaging in is hurting my heart, so I'll cease from here on.

 

I'm not so sure. It was closer to £11m Spurs paid for Berbatov. I can see the potential profit on him and the potential losses on Bent alone cancelling each other out.

 

Anyway, you're right... enough. Spurs are not worth getting worked up over either way.

 

Bent is only worth £2 million?

 

Why, how much have they sold Berbatov for?

 

He will go for around £25 million.

 

Why? How much do you think both players would go for if they were sold?

 

I would have said up to £20m for Berbatov and £9-10m for Bent.

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I'd wager that the profit on Berbatov would offset the small losses they'd admittedly make on some of the others.

 

But, overall, it's a solid return all things considered.

 

Anyway, this defending Spurs business I'm engaging in is hurting my heart, so I'll cease from here on.

 

I'm not so sure. It was closer to £11m Spurs paid for Berbatov. I can see the potential profit on him and the potential losses on Bent alone cancelling each other out.

 

Anyway, you're right... enough. Spurs are not worth getting worked up over either way.

 

Bent is only worth £2 million?

 

Why, how much have they sold Berbatov for?

 

He will go for around £25 million.

 

Why? How much do you think both players would go for if they were sold?

 

I would have said up to £20m for Berbatov and £9-10m for Bent.

 

I'd be stunned if anyone (bar Wistham) paid £10m for Bent.

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I'd wager that the profit on Berbatov would offset the small losses they'd admittedly make on some of the others.

 

But, overall, it's a solid return all things considered.

 

Anyway, this defending Spurs business I'm engaging in is hurting my heart, so I'll cease from here on.

 

I'm not so sure. It was closer to £11m Spurs paid for Berbatov. I can see the potential profit on him and the potential losses on Bent alone cancelling each other out.

 

Anyway, you're right... enough. Spurs are not worth getting worked up over either way.

 

Bent is only worth £2 million?

 

Why, how much have they sold Berbatov for?

 

He will go for around £25 million.

 

Why? How much do you think both players would go for if they were sold?

 

I would have said up to £20m for Berbatov and £9-10m for Bent.

 

I'd be stunned if anyone (bar Wistham) paid £10m for Bent.

 

Plenty on here would pay it for him as a replacement for Viduka going off threads over the past few weeks.

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