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I'd make a joke about NE5's mam, but I think he might get angry.

 

immature.

 

If you aren't up for a mature discussion, its time you went to bed.

 

And you aren't, are you ?

 

 

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madras

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I'd make a joke about NE5's mam, but I think he might get angry.

 

immature.

 

If you aren't up for a mature discussion, its time you went to bed.

 

And you aren't, are you ?

 

 

if you arent up to following the spirit of the thread then you should go to bed
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I wanted a discussion about Ronaldinho and people are talking about mams  ???

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Keefaz, ur mam says hi

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I'd make a joke about NE5's mam, but I think he might get angry.

 

immature.

 

If you aren't up for a mature discussion, its time you went to bed.

 

And you aren't, are you ?

 

 

 

There you go. I only made a joke about making a joke about your mam and you got angry.

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immature.

 

If you aren't up for a mature discussion, its time you went to bed.

 

And you aren't, are you ?

 

 

 

You should take your own advice and consider hibernation.

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madras

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immature.

 

If you aren't up for a mature discussion, its time you went to bed.

 

And you aren't, are you ?

 

 

 

You should take your own advice and consider euthanasia

bit harsh like
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NE5

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I'd make a joke about NE5's mam, but I think he might get angry.

 

immature.

 

If you aren't up for a mature discussion, its time you went to bed.

 

And you aren't, are you ?

 

 

if you arent up to following the spirit of the thread then you should go to bed

 

I can see the shock of someone admitting that I have a good point ie anything not slating the old board members, is too much for you

 

 

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Thank you for answering my queries, NE5. Your posts do provide me some food for thoughts.

 

All I can say is, having been and stayed in Australia, United States, Singapore and United Kingdom (Manchester), I have rarely seen a Sunderland Supporter except in United Kingdom. Even in United Kingdom, Manchester itself, it was a rare sight based on conversations with friends and observing surrounding people and their conversations. On the contrary, I have seen many Tottenham supporters, some Aston Villa supporters since the 1990s.

 

I am not saying NE5 is wrong but could it be a misconception because he has friends who happens to be Sunderland supporters or who happens to live in the Sunderland area? Because, internationally, there really doesn't seem to be a lot of Sunderland supporters compared to Tottenham and Aston Villa supporters.

 

Surely, Sunderland does have the potential to become a big club if they have sustained successes, however, the same goes with all other clubs I feel. It is a global trend these days that there are this bunch/group of people who will take every opportunity to 'jump ship' to support a winning club.

 

As for the old board, they are not definitely not total failure. Everything has its pros or cons. It is rare to find total cons with a group or with an individual. They have virtues which are good too, however, people on this board may just be looking at the overall result, never mind the process the old board has brought us through. It is a habit for people these days to be only concerned with results and not the process. As much as I do like scrutinizing the process, the end-result is ultimately what matters. Sentiments do not have much value in today's world for most people contrary to the past I feel. Again, this is a global trend.

 

I hope you (NE5) are not offended by my post. Like I have previously mentioned, I am not saying that you are wrong. I do admit that there might be other matters that I do not have as much or adequate knowledge on compared to yourself, and that is exactly why it is definitely good to learn through a positive discussion.

 

By any chance, are you referring to 'support' as chairman/financial/backing the manager kind of support?

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Surely, Sunderland does have the potential to become a big club if they have sustained successes, however, the same goes with all other clubs I feel. It is a global trend these days that there are this bunch/group of people who will take every opportunity to 'jump ship' to support a winning club.

 

TBH, to say such a thing, shows a distinct lack of understanding about the georgraphy and demographic of the North East. Having lived away from the area for large portions of my life I can see how much different it is to other places.

 

Geordies and Northumbrians generally feel a sense of pride for their part of the world, most people do, but not to the same degree we do. It's probably rooted in our history and where we got the name Geordie from or the fact the area is so isolated from other urban areas in England.

 

Mackems once felt part of that "Geordie nation" as it were, but now seem to have adopted their own sense of bellonging under the "Mackem" banner. They have an inforority complex but all that's done is breed more pride in them for being a native of Sunderland.

 

Anyway both cities have a banner to fly under and since neither city has it's own army or is currently warring with anyone, football is the vehicle they use to show their pride.

 

We see this throughout the country, where whole towns and villages get behind their team. But  not on the scale of Newcastle and Sunderland, they are both one club cities and their populated are largely loyal to that club.

 

I've mentioned this before but the catchment area, certianly for Newcastle is abosuletly huge, Sunderland too have a big sleeping fanbase that just needs a little nudge of success to wake it up.

 

It's easy for people who don't come from the area or don't live in the area to think it's no different to other parts of the country. Take one look at the success and dismiss both clubs are no more than also rans in the "big club" debate. But that really is too simplistic, the area is different, unlike any other part of England.

 

It's not the people that do turn up for the matches that make both clubs huge clubs it's those that are dormant, those that would believe if you gave them something to believe in.

 

Clubs like Liverpool and ManUre have built their "Bigness" on the success they have had, while Newcastle and Sunderland's "Bigness" is in spite of the lack of success.

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