AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Bearing in mind he was only just given a new contract, it seems very weird that we've suddenly decided he's beyond help. We've also stuck by Carroll and Barton even though they have done much worse things. I'm still not convinced his NUFC career is over, and if we do ship him out I think it's a mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 what exactly has he done? let's not forget he was handed a 5 year contract in december He turns up for training on the verge of being late and he plays with toy guns. If only he broke another players jaw. Very little would have been said, in fact the club would have covered it up and pretended nothing had happened. He's unprofessional at both training and away from the club. At least Carroll was performing, I'd also argue that you can't compare the two situations at all. I'm aware you will as it suits the point you're trying to make. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 NilePowerRanger Nile ranger My.... NEW LUCKY #SHINPADS http://yfrog.com/hsm5tixj 1 minute ago http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/4010/m5tix.jpg Fantastic, I've always wanted to have representations of my extended family and my dog kicked repeatedly in the face by Lee Cattermole and Karl Henry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Perhaps because he was arguably our most important player at the time? You might as well complain that grass is green instead of pink. I couldn't care if he was the most important player on the planet, playing with toy guns or being almost late for training doesn't begin to compare to breaking somebodies jaw, or glassing somebody, or beating up your girlfriend. We brought Ranger to the club knowing that he's done time, what he's done here doesn't even get close to what he's done in his past unless they are keeping something from us. I doubt they are keeping anything of importance from us because we've known when other players have had trouble long before anything has hit the papers. Newcastle is a city where nothing is kept secret for very long with regards to the football club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 He's our Balotelli, he must stay. I mean, look at those shin pads FFS! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 what exactly has he done? let's not forget he was handed a 5 year contract in december He turns up for training on the verge of being late and he plays with toy guns. If only he broke another players jaw. Very little would have been said, in fact the club would have covered it up and pretended nothing had happened. He's unprofessional at both training and away from the club. At least Carroll was performing, I'd also argue that you can't compare the two situations at all. I'm aware you will as it suits the point you're trying to make. How is he unprofessional away from the club? Yes the gun pose was daft BUT 1 incident is unfair to label him unprofessional away from the club At training the issue is that he arrives just on time and leaves as soon as his time is up, again that is no big issue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 what exactly has he done? let's not forget he was handed a 5 year contract in december He turns up for training on the verge of being late and he plays with toy guns. If only he broke another players jaw. Very little would have been said, in fact the club would have covered it up and pretended nothing had happened. He's unprofessional at both training and away from the club. At least Carroll was performing, I'd also argue that you can't compare the two situations at all. I'm aware you will as it suits the point you're trying to make. How is he unprofessional away from the club? Yes the gun pose was daft BUT 1 incident is unfair to label him unprofessional away from the club At training the issue is that he arrives just on time and leaves as soon as his time is up, again that is no big issue I guess Pardew just doesn't want him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 He's unprofessional at both training and away from the club. At least Carroll was performing, I'd also argue that you can't compare the two situations at all. I'm aware you will as it suits the point you're trying to make. I'm not sure how you think the two situations can't be compared, is it because you don't want them to be? It looks like two players have been judged by the club because of behaviour both at and away from the club, one has done worse things than the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Them shin pads are fantastic. Nile must stay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 He's unprofessional at both training and away from the club. At least Carroll was performing, I'd also argue that you can't compare the two situations at all. I'm aware you will as it suits the point you're trying to make. I'm not sure how you think the two situations can't be compared, is it because you don't want them to be? It looks like two players have been judged by the club because of behaviour both at and away from the club, one has done worse things than the other. Ranger has not only persistently been late for training over an 18 month period but he has also shown a general disregard for anything not 'Gangsta' enough, shunning training opportunities with players considerably better than himself. We also heard from a senior player a while ago that he's not the most liked in the squad, with his antics spilling out into the street. Carroll at least applied himself to his profession and became a focal point of the team. Ranger hasn't scored three times for the senior side. His highlight last season being that truly awful miss against West Ham. His issue with Taylor was not comparable to mouthing off in the Cinema or not being able to get out of bed in the morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 NilePowerRanger Nile ranger My.... NEW LUCKY #SHINPADS http://yfrog.com/hsm5tixj 1 minute ago http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/4010/m5tix.jpg Fantastic, I've always wanted to have representations of my extended family and my dog kicked repeatedly in the face by Lee Cattermole and Karl Henry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 The man needs a serious reality check.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 He doesn't seem to have let the Pards rejection impact on his self image Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 He's unprofessional at both training and away from the club. At least Carroll was performing, I'd also argue that you can't compare the two situations at all. I'm aware you will as it suits the point you're trying to make. I'm not sure how you think the two situations can't be compared, is it because you don't want them to be? It looks like two players have been judged by the club because of behaviour both at and away from the club, one has done worse things than the other. Ranger has not only persistently been late for training over an 18 month period but he has also shown a general disregard for anything not 'Gangsta' enough, shunning training opportunities with players considerably better than himself. We also heard from a senior player a while ago that he's not the most liked in the squad, with his antics spilling out into the street. Carroll at least applied himself to his profession and became a focal point of the team. Ranger hasn't scored three times for the senior side. His highlight last season being that truly awful miss against West Ham. His issue with Taylor was not comparable to mouthing off in the Cinema or not being able to get out of bed in the morning. I would say his highlight was coming on and changing the game against Liverpool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 He's unprofessional at both training and away from the club. At least Carroll was performing, I'd also argue that you can't compare the two situations at all. I'm aware you will as it suits the point you're trying to make. I'm not sure how you think the two situations can't be compared, is it because you don't want them to be? It looks like two players have been judged by the club because of behaviour both at and away from the club, one has done worse things than the other. Ranger has not only persistently been late for training over an 18 month period but he has also shown a general disregard for anything not 'Gangsta' enough, shunning training opportunities with players considerably better than himself. We also heard from a senior player a while ago that he's not the most liked in the squad, with his antics spilling out into the street. Carroll at least applied himself to his profession and became a focal point of the team. Ranger hasn't scored three times for the senior side. His highlight last season being that truly awful miss against West Ham. His issue with Taylor was not comparable to mouthing off in the Cinema or not being able to get out of bed in the morning. I would say his highlight was coming on and changing the game against Liverpool And similarly away at Arsenal. If he goes we'll really miss his impact in the last 20 mins of games from the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Lets say Ba & Shola are injured so Best starts would you rather see Loven or Ranger alongside him? I can't work out why we would keep Loven, he is past it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 No one wants him basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Lets say Ba & Shola are injured so Best starts would you rather see Loven or Ranger alongside him? I can't work out why we would keep Loven, he is past it. Cheap wages and no resale value Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Lets say Ba & Shola are injured so Best starts would you rather see Loven or Ranger alongside him? I can't work out why we would keep Loven, he is past it. And yet he can pop up and score key goals. Ranger hasn't done that as yet. Ranger needs a loan and ideally Loven needs replacing. Yet if it was one or the other I'd loan out ranger and keep Loven for the last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 He's unprofessional at both training and away from the club. At least Carroll was performing, I'd also argue that you can't compare the two situations at all. I'm aware you will as it suits the point you're trying to make. I'm not sure how you think the two situations can't be compared, is it because you don't want them to be? It looks like two players have been judged by the club because of behaviour both at and away from the club, one has done worse things than the other. Ranger has not only persistently been late for training over an 18 month period but he has also shown a general disregard for anything not 'Gangsta' enough, shunning training opportunities with players considerably better than himself. We also heard from a senior player a while ago that he's not the most liked in the squad, with his antics spilling out into the street. Carroll at least applied himself to his profession and became a focal point of the team. Ranger hasn't scored three times for the senior side. His highlight last season being that truly awful miss against West Ham. His issue with Taylor was not comparable to mouthing off in the Cinema or not being able to get out of bed in the morning. I would say his highlight was coming on and changing the game against Liverpool I think you're being generous, and he certainly didn't change the game at Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 BTW if there are championship clubs who don't want Loven (or Routledge) they are off their heads. They are clasic promotion players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Loven isn't past it.. He will receive better passes this year... Too bad with Ranger. His touches looked better in the last game of the season, against WBA.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 He's unprofessional at both training and away from the club. At least Carroll was performing, I'd also argue that you can't compare the two situations at all. I'm aware you will as it suits the point you're trying to make. I'm not sure how you think the two situations can't be compared, is it because you don't want them to be? It looks like two players have been judged by the club because of behaviour both at and away from the club, one has done worse things than the other. Ranger has not only persistently been late for training over an 18 month period but he has also shown a general disregard for anything not 'Gangsta' enough, shunning training opportunities with players considerably better than himself. We also heard from a senior player a while ago that he's not the most liked in the squad, with his antics spilling out into the street. Carroll at least applied himself to his profession and became a focal point of the team. Ranger hasn't scored three times for the senior side. His highlight last season being that truly awful miss against West Ham. His issue with Taylor was not comparable to mouthing off in the Cinema or not being able to get out of bed in the morning. I would say his highlight was coming on and changing the game against Liverpool I think you're being generous, and he certainly didn't change the game at Arsenal. No but he helped us improbably hold on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 He's unprofessional at both training and away from the club. At least Carroll was performing, I'd also argue that you can't compare the two situations at all. I'm aware you will as it suits the point you're trying to make. I'm not sure how you think the two situations can't be compared, is it because you don't want them to be? It looks like two players have been judged by the club because of behaviour both at and away from the club, one has done worse things than the other. Ranger has not only persistently been late for training over an 18 month period but he has also shown a general disregard for anything not 'Gangsta' enough, shunning training opportunities with players considerably better than himself. We also heard from a senior player a while ago that he's not the most liked in the squad, with his antics spilling out into the street. Carroll at least applied himself to his profession and became a focal point of the team. Ranger hasn't scored three times for the senior side. His highlight last season being that truly awful miss against West Ham. His issue with Taylor was not comparable to mouthing off in the Cinema or not being able to get out of bed in the morning. I would say his highlight was coming on and changing the game against Liverpool I think you're being generous, and he certainly didn't change the game at Arsenal. No but he helped us improbably hold on Quite a big difference. It was Carroll who won us both those games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 With any luck we will sign another striker Ba ? new Shola Best Loven 1 year left Ranger 1 year loan Would be better business.... Then if Nile has not improved his attitude & scored goals after a loan spell he can be replaced along with Loven next summer, but if Nile has ptoven himself then he replaces Loven in the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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