Syrette Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 I think this fella might surprise a few on here. Just got a feeling he's a lot better than people might realise. Like the people at Valencia who classed him as one too many for this years squad. To be fair Valencia aren't exactly short of quality players in that area so I wouldn't read too much into that. Lets hope he falls into the quality category rather than what seems to me to be a quantity reason he has been moved on. Don't forget he cost them upwards of £7m. source? http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=844156 and others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 such a shame Hugo Viana didn't work in the prem. Quality player, just the type we need in our midfield now if he could become a tad more combatitive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 I think this fella might surprise a few on here. Just got a feeling he's a lot better than people might realise. Like the people at Valencia who classed him as one too many for this years squad. To be fair Valencia aren't exactly short of quality players in that area so I wouldn't read too much into that. Lets hope he falls into the quality category rather than what seems to me to be a quantity reason he has been moved on. Don't forget he cost them upwards of £7m. source? http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=844156 and others. cheers mate. The bloke can`t be that bad if they shelled out that amount for him btw, on the link you posted there`s a further video link at the bottom right of the screen with him scoring 4 goals in a match...I think it was against lower league opposition judging by the scoreline Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Possibly. But I have ap roblem with Joaquin, hes become a lazy player as of late, he took his goal well against us, but I fear he'd just be coming for the money, we need players who will fight for us (Joey took that a bit too literally obviously) I mean its one of the reasons Valencias in the poop they are, they just paid what players wanted in a Leeds esq fashion. He probably would have joined us, but I think as the window grew closer to its end the Valencia Coach (Whos stupid name escapes me) saw him as actually a good player to have, hes showed glimmers of returning to form, but still I would be wary of getting him, but you do make a fair suggestion. They actually have quite a strict wage structure, which they have only recently broken to provide new deals to keep Villa & Silva. the main problem with their debt is that they laid out a massive amount for new land and the development of a new stadium, and then didn't manage to sell the land they own for anywhere near what they thought it was worth. Oh totally agree the New stadium The Callederon or something isn't it? Had a massive impact on finances, but I think they were guilty of spending what they didnt have at times, people like Joaquin, they have often had rather large squads, and have generally wasted money. But you make a spot on point that the new Stadium devlopment or lack of funds they received for the old ground contributed hugely to the 260m Euro debt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicente_14 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Possibly. But I have ap roblem with Joaquin, hes become a lazy player as of late, he took his goal well against us, but I fear he'd just be coming for the money, we need players who will fight for us (Joey took that a bit too literally obviously) I mean its one of the reasons Valencias in the poop they are, they just paid what players wanted in a Leeds esq fashion. He probably would have joined us, but I think as the window grew closer to its end the Valencia Coach (Whos stupid name escapes me) saw him as actually a good player to have, hes showed glimmers of returning to form, but still I would be wary of getting him, but you do make a fair suggestion. They actually have quite a strict wage structure, which they have only recently broken to provide new deals to keep Villa & Silva. the main problem with their debt is that they laid out a massive amount for new land and the development of a new stadium, and then didn't manage to sell the land they own for anywhere near what they thought it was worth. Oh totally agree the New stadium The Callederon or something isn't it? Had a massive impact on finances, but I think they were guilty of spending what they didnt have at times, people like Joaquin, they have often had rather large squads, and have generally wasted money. But you make a spot on point that the new Stadium devlopment or lack of funds they received for the old ground contributed hugely to the 260m Euro debt. The very imaginatively named 'Nou Mestalla' with a 75,000 capacity in time for the start of next season. You are right about the large squads, with loads of average players being loaned out all over Europe and Valencia having to make significant contributions to their wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 I wanted to say the Nueva Mestilla haha! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 such a shame Hugo Viana didn't work in the prem. Quality player, just the type we need in our midfield now if he could become a tad more combatitive agreed......a wasted talent IMO.....I think he would have been ideal for Serie A with the slower paced game over there and the fact that more teams play formations that incorporates a continental number 10/`fantasista` as the Italians call it type like Viana. Maybe if he moved to Juve instead of us at the time things might have worked out differently for the lad. btw....apparently Valencia are willing to let him go if someone takes over his wages Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Despite all of the shite that's gone on, I'm looking forward to seeing this lad play. South American playmaker with a decent number of caps for Uruguay, who aren't exactly a poor nation, and no expectations on his shoulders. Hope he comes in and does the business because we've been crying out for a touch of class in the centre of the park for a good while now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Toon Argy Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 I don't think we should judge too much into them "Letting him go" Valencia have big money troubles, with no Europe this year and Villa on a big new contract, they were desperate to rid of any player they could, the likes of Joaquin for example were made available for Loan. They are in uefa cup aren't they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 yes, they won the Copa del Rey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Will he be back in time to be in the squad for Saturday? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elbee909 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Where's Gonzalez from? Uruguay. Where's Poyet from? Uruguay. Coincidence, I'm sure. ISN'T IT? Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Will he be back in time to be in the squad for Saturday? I'd imagine our 3 will be back, I think however the 2 Argies will play with Nacho benched. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Will he be back in time to be in the squad for Saturday? I'd imagine our 3 will be back, I think however the 2 Argies will play with Nacho benched. Doubt Coloccini will play. He'll be starting for Argentina then arriving back on Saturday morning. Jonas is a different story because he may be forced to play due to injuries but we have cover for Coloccini. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I was thinking can they not sleep on the flight? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Will he be back in time to be in the squad for Saturday? I'd imagine our 3 will be back, I think however the 2 Argies will play with Nacho benched. Doubt Coloccini will play. He'll be starting for Argentina then arriving back on Saturday morning. is that confirmed? Inter Milan`s core of Argies arrive back in Italy on Friday so not sure why our 2 would arrive a day later in the UK....... anyways, cant see Nacho starting as he`s not had a days training with us yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hameed Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 nacho has started uruguay's game against colombia.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintdempsey Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Game is live on bet365.com... He's started quite brightly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 nacho has started uruguay's game against colombia.. any idea what number. i'm watching on betfair but there's no commentary and i dont recognise him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintdempsey Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Number 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hameed Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 nacho gone off now after playing 60 mins.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robm Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 nacho gone off now after playing 60 mins.. How did he play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 i stopped watching at half time. had visions of stretchers and stuff if i kept watching Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 i stopped watching at half time. had visions of stretchers and stuff if i kept watching how was he until half time then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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