Guest Stephen927 Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Guthrie needs time, just like a lot of other young players. It's unfortunate that he's been thrown in the deep end a little bit due to the lack of depth in midfield, but I thought he has dealt with it quite well (the moment of madness v Hull aside). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Guthrie looks very promising to me, I'd love to see him and Barton in the midfield together at some point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Guthrie looks very promising to me, I'd love to see him and Barton in the midfield together at some point Would deffo break some legs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Walking in a waddle wonde Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Guthrie looks very promising to me, I'd love to see him and Barton in the midfield together at some point Would deffo break some legs. and noses, arms, heads........... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Guthrie looks very promising to me, I'd love to see him and Barton in the midfield together at some point Same here, Barton has been completely written off now by some but the player he was at city (not that long ago) would be something we haven't had here for quite a long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Surely he'll start at West Ham? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Guthrie looks very promising to me, I'd love to see him and Barton in the midfield together at some point So would i but i'd also like to win the lottery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Toon Argy Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 what's with the Guthrie bashing? very very harsh on the lad He may have heart and done alright since he came, but he is a very very average footballer. Have to disagree. He's showed real potential to be a very very good player in my opinion. Totally agree. Average player in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 I thought Guthrie had a very good game. Hopefully, he'll learn from that mad moment at the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gallowgate Mag Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 what's with the Guthrie bashing? very very harsh on the lad He may have heart and done alright since he came, but he is a very very average footballer. Have to disagree. He's showed real potential to be a very very good player in my opinion. Totally agree. Very, very good players: Jonas, Coloccini, Owen, Beye. Very, very average players: Guthrie, Taylor etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 what's with the Guthrie bashing? very very harsh on the lad He may have heart and done alright since he came, but he is a very very average footballer. Have to disagree. He's showed real potential to be a very very good player in my opinion. Totally agree. Very, very good players: Jonas, Coloccini, Owen, Beye. Very, very average players: Guthrie, Taylor etc Very, very shit players: Smith, Shola etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 In the time Guthrie has been with us, he has done more than enough to suggest he is better than "very average". I cant imagine those of you saying he is average have seen all that much of him prior to coming here either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gallowgate Mag Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 In the time Guthrie has been with us, he has done more than enough to suggest he is better than "very average". I cant imagine those of you saying he is average have seen all that much of him prior to coming here either. Don't you think it says a lot about a player when Liverpool were virtually giving him away and the only other club with half an interest was Bolton fucking Wanderers? I'm not saying he wont do a job, because he's ok for the time being. But he's the sort of playeryou want at your club as 5th choice CM, not first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 In the time Guthrie has been with us, he has done more than enough to suggest he is better than "very average". I cant imagine those of you saying he is average have seen all that much of him prior to coming here either. Don't you think it says a lot about a player when Liverpool were virtually giving him away and the only other club with half an interest was Bolton fucking Wanderers? I'm not saying he wont do a job, because he's ok for the time being. But he's the sort of playeryou want at your club as 5th choice CM, not first. What it says to me is that you (probably) haven't seen a lot of him prior to coming to us and that he has played well for us so far, so for you to call him "very average" is just pre-judging him based on nothing other than the fact that he didn't cost much. I'm not saying he should be seen as a regular for us, but he has played well and showed a lot of promise in his time here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 In the time Guthrie has been with us, he has done more than enough to suggest he is better than "very average". I cant imagine those of you saying he is average have seen all that much of him prior to coming here either. Don't you think it says a lot about a player when Liverpool were virtually giving him away and the only other club with half an interest was Bolton fucking Wanderers? I'm not saying he wont do a job, because he's ok for the time being. But he's the sort of playeryou want at your club as 5th choice CM, not first. We virtually gave Bellamy away and the only interested clubs were Blackburn and Birmingham, how many clubs were fighting over Bentley when he left Arsenal? If you don't rate him that's fair enough, but at least try and make a post stating what he's done on the pitch that makes you not rate him rather than saying that "Nobody else was interested so he must be shit" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gallowgate Mag Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 In the time Guthrie has been with us, he has done more than enough to suggest he is better than "very average". I cant imagine those of you saying he is average have seen all that much of him prior to coming here either. Don't you think it says a lot about a player when Liverpool were virtually giving him away and the only other club with half an interest was Bolton f***ing Wanderers? I'm not saying he wont do a job, because he's ok for the time being. But he's the sort of playeryou want at your club as 5th choice CM, not first. What it says to me is that you (probably) haven't seen a lot of him prior to coming to us and that he has played well for us so far, so for you to call him "very average" is just pre-judging him based on nothing other than the fact that he didn't cost much. I'm not saying he should be seen as a regular for us, but he has played well and showed a lot of promise in his time here. Well it actually says it wrong to you then, doesn't it, Karl? I've seen him play our reserves on numerous occasions and also for Bolton and Liverpool on the rare occasions he got a game there. I've also had reports from my Scouse supporting mates about him. No sign of England U21 honours, no sign of a decent club wanting him. Don't get me wrong, i'd love him to do well and establish himself in the team, doing a "Rob Lee" if you will. He just wont. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gallowgate Mag Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 In the time Guthrie has been with us, he has done more than enough to suggest he is better than "very average". I cant imagine those of you saying he is average have seen all that much of him prior to coming here either. Don't you think it says a lot about a player when Liverpool were virtually giving him away and the only other club with half an interest was Bolton f***ing Wanderers? I'm not saying he wont do a job, because he's ok for the time being. But he's the sort of playeryou want at your club as 5th choice CM, not first. We virtually gave Bellamy away and the only interested clubs were Blackburn and Birmingham, how many clubs were fighting over Bentley when he left Arsenal? If you don't rate him that's fair enough, but at least try and make a post stating what he's done on the pitch that makes you not rate him rather than saying that "Nobody else was interested so he must be s***" Bellamy went to the biggest club in Scotland for 6 months then to Blackburn. the reason no "big" clubs were after him was because of his off field problems. A year after calming down and he'd signed for European Champions Liverpool. Wenger begged Bentley not to go, but reluctantly let him because he couldn't guarantee him first team football for a few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 In the time Guthrie has been with us, he has done more than enough to suggest he is better than "very average". I cant imagine those of you saying he is average have seen all that much of him prior to coming here either. Don't you think it says a lot about a player when Liverpool were virtually giving him away and the only other club with half an interest was Bolton f***ing Wanderers? I'm not saying he wont do a job, because he's ok for the time being. But he's the sort of playeryou want at your club as 5th choice CM, not first. We virtually gave Bellamy away and the only interested clubs were Blackburn and Birmingham, how many clubs were fighting over Bentley when he left Arsenal? If you don't rate him that's fair enough, but at least try and make a post stating what he's done on the pitch that makes you not rate him rather than saying that "Nobody else was interested so he must be s***" Bellamy went to the biggest club in Scotland for 6 months then to Blackburn. the reason no "big" clubs were after him was because of his off field problems. A year after calming down and he'd signed for European Champions Liverpool. Wenger begged Bentley not to go, but reluctantly let him because he couldn't guarantee him first team football for a few years. Scotland ffs Like John Hartson and Samaras signed for them, it's a graveyard. Still no sign of you saying what Guthrie had done wrong on the pitch for you not to rate him, feel free to tell us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gallowgate Mag Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 In the time Guthrie has been with us, he has done more than enough to suggest he is better than "very average". I cant imagine those of you saying he is average have seen all that much of him prior to coming here either. Don't you think it says a lot about a player when Liverpool were virtually giving him away and the only other club with half an interest was Bolton f***ing Wanderers? I'm not saying he wont do a job, because he's ok for the time being. But he's the sort of playeryou want at your club as 5th choice CM, not first. We virtually gave Bellamy away and the only interested clubs were Blackburn and Birmingham, how many clubs were fighting over Bentley when he left Arsenal? If you don't rate him that's fair enough, but at least try and make a post stating what he's done on the pitch that makes you not rate him rather than saying that "Nobody else was interested so he must be s***" Bellamy went to the biggest club in Scotland for 6 months then to Blackburn. the reason no "big" clubs were after him was because of his off field problems. A year after calming down and he'd signed for European Champions Liverpool. Wenger begged Bentley not to go, but reluctantly let him because he couldn't guarantee him first team football for a few years. Scotland ffs Like John Hartson and Samaras signed for them, it's a graveyard. Still no sign of you saying what Guthrie had done wrong on the pitch for you not to rate him, feel free to tell us. Apart from his mental moment I think he's done ok. He hasn't shone, he hasn't been shit. Hence, average. Like I repeatedly say, i've nowt against the boy, and wish him well. I just don't think he'll make it. Hardly a graveyard for Gazza or Larsson was it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 In the time Guthrie has been with us, he has done more than enough to suggest he is better than "very average". I cant imagine those of you saying he is average have seen all that much of him prior to coming here either. Don't you think it says a lot about a player when Liverpool were virtually giving him away and the only other club with half an interest was Bolton f***ing Wanderers? I'm not saying he wont do a job, because he's ok for the time being. But he's the sort of playeryou want at your club as 5th choice CM, not first. What it says to me is that you (probably) haven't seen a lot of him prior to coming to us and that he has played well for us so far, so for you to call him "very average" is just pre-judging him based on nothing other than the fact that he didn't cost much. I'm not saying he should be seen as a regular for us, but he has played well and showed a lot of promise in his time here. Well it actually says it wrong to you then, doesn't it, Karl? I've seen him play our reserves on numerous occasions and also for Bolton and Liverpool on the rare occasions he got a game there. I've also had reports from my Scouse supporting mates about him. No sign of England U21 honours, no sign of a decent club wanting him. Don't get me wrong, i'd love him to do well and establish himself in the team, doing a "Rob Lee" if you will. He just wont. Karl..... I see what you did there, brilliant! How many times is numerous occasions? And when you was watching him, was you watching him in the knowledge that he was going to be signing for us? I cant imagine you'd pay a great deal of attention to an opposition reserve player. I may be wrong here but I stand by my point that your basing your opinion on very little. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 In the time Guthrie has been with us, he has done more than enough to suggest he is better than "very average". I cant imagine those of you saying he is average have seen all that much of him prior to coming here either. Don't you think it says a lot about a player when Liverpool were virtually giving him away and the only other club with half an interest was Bolton f***ing Wanderers? I'm not saying he wont do a job, because he's ok for the time being. But he's the sort of playeryou want at your club as 5th choice CM, not first. We virtually gave Bellamy away and the only interested clubs were Blackburn and Birmingham, how many clubs were fighting over Bentley when he left Arsenal? If you don't rate him that's fair enough, but at least try and make a post stating what he's done on the pitch that makes you not rate him rather than saying that "Nobody else was interested so he must be s***" Bellamy went to the biggest club in Scotland for 6 months then to Blackburn. the reason no "big" clubs were after him was because of his off field problems. A year after calming down and he'd signed for European Champions Liverpool. Wenger begged Bentley not to go, but reluctantly let him because he couldn't guarantee him first team football for a few years. Scotland ffs Like John Hartson and Samaras signed for them, it's a graveyard. Still no sign of you saying what Guthrie had done wrong on the pitch for you not to rate him, feel free to tell us. Apart from his mental moment I think he's done ok. He hasn't shone, he hasn't been shit. Hence, average. Like I repeatedly say, i've nowt against the boy, and wish him well. I just don't think he'll make it. Hardly a graveyard for Gazza or Larsson was it? So that's 2 players who signed for Scottish clubs over a decade ago, I can see the talent oozing out of the place. Like I said to you, if you don't rate someone then say what part of their game you don't rate, giving it the "He must be shite because nobody else wanted him" is bollocks, it's not hard when you think about it. It also makes it easier for people to debate the point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 I really think Tottenham have bought over-rated players this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 I really think Tottenham have bought over-rated players this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 In the time Guthrie has been with us, he has done more than enough to suggest he is better than "very average". I cant imagine those of you saying he is average have seen all that much of him prior to coming here either. Don't you think it says a lot about a player when Liverpool were virtually giving him away and the only other club with half an interest was Bolton fucking Wanderers? I'm not saying he wont do a job, because he's ok for the time being. But he's the sort of playeryou want at your club as 5th choice CM, not first. sorry, but that post is bloody ludicrous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 I really think Tottenham have bought over-rated players this year. Modric has looked a bit disappointing since he`s been there..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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