Shearergol Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 As Tottenham found out at the start of this season its not all about buying players, you can only be so good, clubs like Real Madrid and Barcelona have been filling their teams with world class players for years now yet their just as good as other teams such as Liverpool and Arsenal. Football isn't just about buying players and playing them, thats FM, there's alot more in it, thats why teams like Man Utd, Arsenal hardley need to sign any player in a season yet their by far superior to others. In the end no matter who've you got on the pitch its still 11 vs 11. I have no idea what you're trying to say there. Are you claiming that you don't need better players, you just need better tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Arsenal finished 4 points off the title last season, and that was with Eduardo missing for the last three months of the season. I don't think they're so far away tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Thought, I'd repost here what I wrote in the Ronaldo thread: Honestly, American style salary caps and maybe a transfer cap of 35 million should come into English football with immediate effect from the start of next season for the sake of the game. I dont care if this affects English teams chances in Europe or not. Domestic football is really all that matters and every team should be given equal resources. Teams like Wigan and Bolton should have just as much chance of winning the Premier League as Man U or Chelsea and now apparently Man City. It has got to happen at some point. I hate to harp on about the NFL but since every team no matter how big or how small has to adhere to the salary cap it means the gap between the best teams and the worst teams is MUCH, MUCH smaller than it is in our Premier League. What this means is that good management/coaching, player trades and recruitment etc (transfers) play a bigger part in the game. It also means that the power balance shifts around the league on a fairly regular basis, and the absolute worst team in the league at any one time knows that given the right selection of head coach plus consistent team building and desire can see the worst team become a serious challenger in a matter of years. I am just advocating their system as a sort of template with the appropriate tweaks made to suit the world of our football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Thought, I'd repost here what I wrote in the Ronaldo thread: Honestly, American style salary caps and maybe a transfer cap of 35 million should come into English football with immediate effect from the start of next season for the sake of the game. I dont care if this affects English teams chances in Europe or not. Domestic football is really all that matters and every team should be given equal resources. Teams like Wigan and Bolton should have just as much chance of winning the Premier League as Man U or Chelsea and now apparently Man City. It has got to happen at some point. I hate to harp on about the NFL but since every team no matter how big or how small has to adhere to the salary cap it means the gap between the best teams and the worst teams is MUCH, MUCH smaller than it is in our Premier League. What this means is that good management/coaching, player trades and recruitment etc (transfers) play a bigger part in the game. It also means that the power balance shifts around the league on a fairly regular basis, and the absolute worst team in the league at any one time knows that given the right selection of head coach plus consistent team building and desire can see the worst team become a serious challenger in a matter of years. I am just advocating their system as a sort of template with the appropriate tweaks made to suit the world of our football. Never going to be agreed to so it is pointless talking about it. There is a salary cap in rugby union & league but I reckon next year Leicester & Wasps will be at the top in union & in next years league St Helens & Leeds will do well. Just because you have salary doe not equal equality. I guess the Dolphins have just been unlucky in there quest for a superbowl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 We should be thinking about whacking a bid in for Michael Johnson in Jan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/8296/340xbq9.jpg It's just Peter Kay in a hat man. Tea Towel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Thought, I'd repost here what I wrote in the Ronaldo thread: Honestly, American style salary caps and maybe a transfer cap of 35 million should come into English football with immediate effect from the start of next season for the sake of the game. I dont care if this affects English teams chances in Europe or not. Domestic football is really all that matters and every team should be given equal resources. Teams like Wigan and Bolton should have just as much chance of winning the Premier League as Man U or Chelsea and now apparently Man City. It has got to happen at some point. I hate to harp on about the NFL but since every team no matter how big or how small has to adhere to the salary cap it means the gap between the best teams and the worst teams is MUCH, MUCH smaller than it is in our Premier League. What this means is that good management/coaching, player trades and recruitment etc (transfers) play a bigger part in the game. It also means that the power balance shifts around the league on a fairly regular basis, and the absolute worst team in the league at any one time knows that given the right selection of head coach plus consistent team building and desire can see the worst team become a serious challenger in a matter of years. I am just advocating their system as a sort of template with the appropriate tweaks made to suit the world of our football. Never going to be agreed to so it is pointless talking about it. There is a salary cap in rugby union & league but I reckon next year Leicester & Wasps will be at the top in union & in next years league St Helens & Leeds will do well. Just because you have salary doe not equal equality. I guess the Dolphins have just been unlucky in there quest for a superbowl. No, but it does mean that every team has the real opportunity to compete and be the best. As for the Dolphins, they are where they are because of s**** team management not becuase they dont have resources and funds to compete which is the case for 90% of the Prem. The Dolphins have more chance of winning the Superbowl in the next 15 years than Stoke City do of winning the Prem in the next 200 years by a country mile. Even with a salary cap I am not disputing that there are not still good teams that dominate and s*** teams. The good teams can remain good for long periods through managing the team right which is how it should be but eventually through natural progression these teams or dynasties finish and therefore the club usually takes a significant downturn for a few years allowing other teams to take up the mantle. A salary cap just means that the s*** teams are not forever destined to remain at the bottom of the food chain through lack of resources which is only a good thing in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 His English is pretty poor, tbh. I expect better from someone who has degrees from studying in an English speaking country. (America) Although I'm sure City fans don't give a damn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Wonder how the Man U fans feel about these latest developments? Looks like they may soon play second fiddle to a club in their own city no less.. they'll be off to support City pretty soon anyway.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 I am sure there are plenty more mental billionaire arabs out there and I would hazard a guess that sooner or later they will come in for us as I reckon we are pretty high on the list of potential play things. Meh, If you cant beat them, join them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diddimz Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 If the new owners are saying money isn't an object and are obviously not looking at making a profit, i wonder what will happen with prices there next season, free entry for everyone and a stadium expansion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 If the new owners are saying money isn't an object and are obviously not looking at making a profit, i wonder what will happen with prices there next season, free entry for everyone and a stadium expansion? Fairly cack businessmen then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 What happens when they realise that their £££'s arent going to instantly attract the Ronaldo's, Torres' and Fabragas' of this world..... I can see Robinho moving on to Chelsea next summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Thought, I'd repost here what I wrote in the Ronaldo thread: Honestly, American style salary caps and maybe a transfer cap of 35 million should come into English football with immediate effect from the start of next season for the sake of the game. I dont care if this affects English teams chances in Europe or not. Domestic football is really all that matters and every team should be given equal resources. Teams like Wigan and Bolton should have just as much chance of winning the Premier League as Man U or Chelsea and now apparently Man City. It has got to happen at some point. I hate to harp on about the NFL but since every team no matter how big or how small has to adhere to the salary cap it means the gap between the best teams and the worst teams is MUCH, MUCH smaller than it is in our Premier League. What this means is that good management/coaching, player trades and recruitment etc (transfers) play a bigger part in the game. It also means that the power balance shifts around the league on a fairly regular basis, and the absolute worst team in the league at any one time knows that given the right selection of head coach plus consistent team building and desire can see the worst team become a serious challenger in a matter of years. I am just advocating their system as a sort of template with the appropriate tweaks made to suit the world of our football. Never going to be agreed to so it is pointless talking about it. There is a salary cap in rugby union & league but I reckon next year Leicester & Wasps will be at the top in union & in next years league St Helens & Leeds will do well. Just because you have salary doe not equal equality. I guess the Dolphins have just been unlucky in there quest for a superbowl. No, but it does mean that every team has the real opportunity to compete and be the best. As for the Dolphins, they are where they are because of s**** team management not becuase they dont have resources and funds to compete which is the case for 90% of the Prem. The Dolphins have more chance of winning the Superbowl in the next 15 years than Stoke City do of winning the Prem in the next 200 years by a country mile. Even with a salary cap I am not disputing that there are not still good teams that dominate and s*** teams. The good teams can remain good for long periods through managing the team right which is how it should be but eventually through natural progression these teams or dynasties finish and therefore the club usually takes a significant downturn for a few years allowing other teams to take up the mantle. A salary cap just means that the s*** teams are not forever destined to remain at the bottom of the food chain through lack of resources which is only a good thing in my opinion. If I am right in thinking the NFL clubs can all afford to pay the salary cap? The PL would have to be brutal & tell all small clubs the could not enter the PL & put the likes of Leeds, Sheff Wed, Wolves in because you cant have a salary cap that is set by the teams with smallest revenue. I would like to see loaning of players ended, I think the big clubs gobble a lot of the talent up & loan it out. If they could not loan players out they would be forced to sell to smalller clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diddimz Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 If the new owners are saying money isn't an object and are obviously not looking at making a profit, i wonder what will happen with prices there next season, free entry for everyone and a stadium expansion? Fairly cack businessmen then i cant see how they plan to turn a profit by 135mil on ronaqldo, plus his wages, like chelsea, i cant ever see them being profitable, the only other reason i think someone would invest that cash is to enjoy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 It's almost as if Mark Hughes has taken over Man City on FM08 and edited it to give himself billions of pounds for transfers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 It's almost as if Mark Hughes has taken over Man City on FM08 and edited it to give himself billions of pounds for transfers Complete with the option of interventionist chairman who buys players for you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 To be honest, I feel sorry for the current set of players. What are they playing for right now, if essentially they know they are going to be replaced, possibly as soon as January? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 these guys from the UAE will be in in for the long term - they'll spend the cash over 3-4 years - not all at Christmas More Sheikh Mohammed than the Roman A IMHO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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