Is this the worst time you have had being a supporter of NUFC?

[NE5]

 

This IS the worst time of all - I saw relegation in 77 after a couple of good years, relegation in 89, fear of Div 3 in 92, but through all that, we had hope of renewal and something better coming along ; this is NOT the case today because football has changed so much in the last 10 years(esp the last 5)that relegation would probably mean never again being the club we were in the mid-90s...

Mega-rich clubs like Man C, Man U , Chelsea etc will monopolize all the top players, and I even think there could be a break-away Euro League in  a few years, leaving the rest of the Prem adrift in the same way as the Championship is today.

 

What also makes this situation even worse is that it looked as if, at long last, we had started to recover from the drift and were going to make progress with Ashley & KK, only to have the whole thing collapse through lack of good management and inefficiency.

 

If we go down this season, we will end up like Wolves - a former 'big' club who have a nice stadium which they only fill every time a Prem club arrives in the FA Cup.

 

These are terrible times for a once-great football club.

 

 

I hardly know what to say. What other long term supporter is going to admit it.

 

 

[Dave]

Will you answer my question NE5, in a serious manner without resorting to the usual attacks on people for what they've said before?

[NE5]

It's not the worst and I don't agree relegation being any worse now than in the past just because of the money in the game.  The top clubs have loads of cash but they aren't in the second division or whatever it's called these days so have no direct input into other divisions.

 

its the worst since when then ?

 

 

[Baggio]

This is the worst, simply because of how fast I've gone from really upbeat and positive about our future to what I feel now.

 

Less than a month ago I was buzzing about things. We had a good manager who was looking to play good, positive football, a manager that we as fans could really identify with and believe in. A chairman who was trying to take the club in the right direction in what I believe was a very positive manner. And a scouting system that was finding good players like Jonas to come in and improve the team.

 

Then, in the space of about a week we were managerless and our owner was being hounded out by our own fans. And why?

 

All because a few men couldn't find the maturity to try and work together, preferring to go behind each others backs and squabble in an attempt to get as much power for themselves as possible, rather than trying to work as a team. And then a chairman who didn't have the decency to come back and try and actually sort out these petty cunts until it was much too late.

 

Keegan, Wise, Jimenez, Ashley, Llambias and every single person in power at the club have all fucked us over here, can't wait until the club is sold and out of the hands of the current lot.

 

I also hope we don't bring back Keegan, not been one bit impressed by him throughout this whole ordeal.

 

Quality post, the drop from being optimistic to such a low point happened over the space of 2 weeks, the brightside is it seems a short term thing with light at the end of the tunnel.

[NE5]

Will you answer my question NE5, in a serious manner without resorting to the usual attacks on people for what they've said before?

 

a new request specially reserved for me Dave ?

 

I don't know what "question" you mean, I clipped merlins post.

 

 

[Dave]

Will you answer my question NE5, in a serious manner without resorting to the usual attacks on people for what they've said before?

 

a new request specially reserved for me Dave ?

 

I don't know what "question" you mean, I clipped merlins post.

 

 

 

This post: http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=56580.msg1511799#msg1511799

 

It wasn't a specially reserved request no, but I'd like your opinion without you doing what you've already started in this thread, which is to try and rake up old arguments between yourself and Mick, merlin etc. AGAIN.

[NE5]

Will you answer my question NE5, in a serious manner without resorting to the usual attacks on people for what they've said before?

 

a new request specially reserved for me Dave ?

 

I don't know what "question" you mean, I clipped merlins post.

 

 

 

This post: http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=56580.msg1511799#msg1511799

 

It wasn't a specially reserved request no, but I'd like your opinion without you doing what you've already started in this thread, which is to try and rake up old arguments between yourself and Mick, merlin etc. AGAIN.

 

will it matter ? Will you just disregard it if something doesn't suit you ?

 

FWIW, I don't think its any different to any other time, you just have to regroup and get back up. After previous relegations we have spent a long time getting back, so I hope it would be quicker.

 

If NUFC tap their crowd potential, they have an advantage over most club, but this has always the big question with Newcastle, or was in the 1970's and 1980's.

 

I'm not "attacking" mick by the way, I've just asked him a question that he keeps avoiding, and have just asked him yet another serious question. If you encourage him to reply sensibly - like here with me - then there would be no reason for me to keep asking would there ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Dave]

FWIW, I don't think its any different to any other time, you just have to regroup and get back up. After previous relegations we have spent a long time getting back, so I hope it would be quicker.

 

If NUFC tap their crowd potential, they have an advantage over most club, but this has always the big question with Newcastle, or was in the 1970's and 1980's.

 

Thanks. I was interested in your opinion on the matter.

[NE5]

FWIW, I don't think its any different to any other time, you just have to regroup and get back up. After previous relegations we have spent a long time getting back, so I hope it would be quicker.

 

If NUFC tap their crowd potential, they have an advantage over most club, but this has always the big question with Newcastle, or was in the 1970's and 1980's.

 

Thanks. I was interested in your opinion on the matter.

 

now, are you going to encourage the other older supporters to also behave like adults and answer fairly simple routine questions ? Or am I right, and that was a special request just for me ?

 

 

[Dave]

Have whatever arguments you like, they're nowt to do with me. I admit I was being a bit facetious with that comment - I can just see the usual bickering ruining another thread. People don't agree with you, deal with it. I was interested in your opinion on my post, you've given it. The end.

[Syrette]

He is just picking on you is all. Dave is a right bully.

 

[NE5]

Have whatever arguments you like, they're nowt to do with me. I admit I was being a bit facetious with that comment - I can just see the usual bickering ruining another thread. People don't agree with you, deal with it.

 

No, I don't care if anybody disagrees with me. I just rather thought you would apply consistent standards. I'm obviously right again, and you won't.

 

Hopefully, mick will answer what I've asked him like an adult. We will see, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

 

[Dave]

The irony. Carry on.

[NE5]

The irony.

 

You said it

 

Edit. Some people are their own worst enemy Dave, if they didn't put across personality based agendas instead of factually based opinions, they would talk a lot more sense. We will see if I get a reply, I'm disappointed at your different standards, but I appreciate you asking me specifically for my opinion.

 

 

 

 

[Mick]

 

its the worst since when then ?

 

 

 

It's the worst for me since Souness was here.

[Heron]

It's the worst lengthy period. Losing to Sunderland and Shearer missing a pen was probably the worst time.

 

It's only the start of the season, and a slong as we get behind the team and give them that bit confidence then they should pull us out of the shit. However, if we don't help them get their confidence back now, and simply fuck off, I think it will definately be the worst time I have had being an NUFC fan.

 

At least we get 4 extra games next season if we go down. 

[NE5]

 

its the worst since when then ?

 

 

 

It's the worst for me since Souness was here.

 

do you think we will match the league position we achieved under even souness, and could you tell us when exactly such unhappiness and level of demonstration occurred, even when Souness was manager ?

 

do you remember the last time (and the only time in my life) when the players suffered such upheavel behind the scenes ?

 

 

[Mick]

 

do you think we will match the league position we achieved under even souness, and could you tell us when exactly such unhappiness and level of demonstration occurred, even when Souness was manager ?

 

do you remember the last time (and the only time in my life) when the players suffered such upheavel behind the scenes ?

 

 

 

I don't know what position we'll reach this season as we have so much going on behind the scenes, anything could happen.  Yes I do remember the last time we went through this sort of thing with the behind the scenes shite, it was when Sir John was trying to get control of the club.

[Guest Phil K]

FWIW, I don't think its any different to any other time, you just have to regroup and get back up. After previous relegations we have spent a long time getting back, so I hope it would be quicker.

 

If NUFC tap their crowd potential, they have an advantage over most club, but this has always the big question with Newcastle, or was in the 1970's and 1980's.

 

Thanks. I was interested in your opinion on the matter.

His opinion is of no less importance, or interest than anyone else's.

And I can name a dozen at least that its worth a LOT more than...(you NOT being one of them, by the way !)

[madras]

player power and the subsequent relegation was the worst i can remember and as i was young it hit me harder.

 

i honestly think we have quality enough to keep away from trouble if we don't spend most of the season with 4 or 5 first teamers out injured every week.

[Mick]

player power and the subsequent relegation was the worst i can remember and as i was young it hit me harder.

 

i honestly think we have quality enough to keep away from trouble if we don't spend most of the season with 4 or 5 first teamers out injured every week.

 

It was also shit when we had players trying to pick the manager and they won, look what happened.  We also had the likes of Barrowclough, Nulty, Canell and Natrass demanding more money or they would go on strike.

[madras]

player power and the subsequent relegation was the worst i can remember and as i was young it hit me harder.

 

i honestly think we have quality enough to keep away from trouble if we don't spend most of the season with 4 or 5 first teamers out injured every week.

 

It was also s*** when we had players trying to pick the manager and they won, look what happened.  We also had the likes of Barrowclough, Nulty, Canell and Natrass demanding more money or they would go on strike.

that was the player power i mentioned.

[Mick]

 

that was the player power i mentioned.

 

I didn't phrase it well but I agreed with you.

[midds]

Staring the old 3rd Division squarely in the eye (and the club probably folding as a result) was a far worse prospect than this situation.

 

We've still got 33 games to save ourselves and, as madras says, there's enough quality to gather 40 points. But it's going to be tight...

[toontownman]

No. Being dismantled by Souness has to be the worst time, that was the fall from grace after such an epic, unappreciated revival. It really feels like our last chance now, our time has now past.

 

I'm not sure...maybe? Not sure if staying down here and keep fuking up is worse than falling, it's certainly a bad time and one of the worst for anyone under 30.

 

 

 

Worst time for me. If this was happening after January things might be different, we still have plenty of time to turn the season completely around, in that respect there is still hope.

 

However this is without a doubt the most humiliated I feel for being a Newcastle fan. In a way I will also feel a bit insulted if Keegan and Shearer do get appointed, its like a patronising pat on the head to appease the masses.