ToonTastic Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I will run this club my way Mike Ashley breaks Toon silence Exclusive by Rob Beasley So noubt there then to back up any arguments that he said he would spend millions of his own cash funding player purchases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 That's the wrong one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Alright maybe not. I was thinking of something else perhaps, just having a search now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?showtopic=22300&st=0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 "The truth is that Newcastle could not sustain buying the Shevchenko's, Robinho's or the Berbatov's. These are recognised European footballers. They have played in the European leagues and everyone knows about them. They can be brilliant signings. But everybody knows that they are brilliant and so they, and players like them, cost more than £30 million to buy before you even take into account agent commissions and the multi-million pound wage deals. My plan and my strategy for Newcastle is different. It has to be. It takes time. It can't be done overnight. Newcastle has therefore set up an extensive scouting system. We look for young players, for players in foreign leagues who everyone does not know about. We try and stay ahead of the competition. We search high and low looking for value, for potential that we can bring on and for players who will allow Newcastle to compete at the very highest level but who don't cost the earth." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 "The truth is that Newcastle could not sustain buying the Shevchenko's, Robinho's or the Berbatov's. These are recognised European footballers. They have played in the European leagues and everyone knows about them. They can be brilliant signings. But everybody knows that they are brilliant and so they, and players like them, cost more than £30 million to buy before you even take into account agent commissions and the multi-million pound wage deals. My plan and my strategy for Newcastle is different. It has to be. It takes time. It can't be done overnight. Newcastle has therefore set up an extensive scouting system. We look for young players, for players in foreign leagues who everyone does not know about. We try and stay ahead of the competition. We search high and low looking for value, for potential that we can bring on and for players who will allow Newcastle to compete at the very highest level but who don't cost the earth." What possessed him to go after the recognised European Footballer Modric ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 "The truth is that Newcastle could not sustain buying the Shevchenko's, Robinho's or the Berbatov's. These are recognised European footballers. They have played in the European leagues and everyone knows about them. They can be brilliant signings. But everybody knows that they are brilliant and so they, and players like them, cost more than £30 million to buy before you even take into account agent commissions and the multi-million pound wage deals. My plan and my strategy for Newcastle is different. It has to be. It takes time. It can't be done overnight. Newcastle has therefore set up an extensive scouting system. We look for young players, for players in foreign leagues who everyone does not know about. We try and stay ahead of the competition. We search high and low looking for value, for potential that we can bring on and for players who will allow Newcastle to compete at the very highest level but who don't cost the earth." What possessed him to go after the recognised European Footballer Modric ? keegan wanted him? the deal was right? he's a young, talented player? it hardly the same type of deal as spending £30 million on shevchenko or robinho is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Mongo Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 "The truth is that Newcastle could not sustain buying the Shevchenko's, Robinho's or the Berbatov's. These are recognised European footballers. They have played in the European leagues and everyone knows about them. They can be brilliant signings. But everybody knows that they are brilliant and so they, and players like them, cost more than £30 million to buy before you even take into account agent commissions and the multi-million pound wage deals. My plan and my strategy for Newcastle is different. It has to be. It takes time. It can't be done overnight. Newcastle has therefore set up an extensive scouting system. We look for young players, for players in foreign leagues who everyone does not know about. We try and stay ahead of the competition. We search high and low looking for value, for potential that we can bring on and for players who will allow Newcastle to compete at the very highest level but who don't cost the earth." And look at the date:14/09/2008. That's after he'd shown his true colours. <-- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I was talking to my mate today as well, who is Michael Johnson's agent, and as far as he is aware there was no bid for him so sounds like more bullshit from the club. A spokeswoman said: "Since Sheikh Mansour and Khaldoon Al Mubarak took over the ownership and running of the club at the end of September it has often been stated that the policy is to mix proven internationals with home grown talent, that hasn't changed. "Newcastle did make an offer but we want to hold on to our best young players and that is why we turned them down." bullshit from which club exactly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 "The truth is that Newcastle could not sustain buying the Shevchenko's, Robinho's or the Berbatov's. These are recognised European footballers. They have played in the European leagues and everyone knows about them. They can be brilliant signings. But everybody knows that they are brilliant and so they, and players like them, cost more than £30 million to buy before you even take into account agent commissions and the multi-million pound wage deals. My plan and my strategy for Newcastle is different. It has to be. It takes time. It can't be done overnight. Newcastle has therefore set up an extensive scouting system. We look for young players, for players in foreign leagues who everyone does not know about. We try and stay ahead of the competition. We search high and low looking for value, for potential that we can bring on and for players who will allow Newcastle to compete at the very highest level but who don't cost the earth." And look at the date:14/09/2008. That's after he'd shown his true colours. <-- that quote epitomises "the transfer system" that keegan apparently agreed with to come back a year ago. im still waiting for you or somebody else to show where he's said we'll spend our way up the league btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?showtopic=22300&st=0 I don't think I can see any quotes from Ashley there that are are that heinous or even particularly unreasonable in context. Things change, Kinnear drops a bollock or two, but lies and propaganda? Meh, I think you are crediting the club with a little too much intelligence and showing very little yourself trying to whip up outrage with some cherry picked (and at best tenuously connected) lines there Mr Happy Face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Mongo Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 True, but that was never said before Keegan left, was it? No, it wasn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 "The truth is that Newcastle could not sustain buying the Shevchenko's, Robinho's or the Berbatov's. These are recognised European footballers. They have played in the European leagues and everyone knows about them. They can be brilliant signings. But everybody knows that they are brilliant and so they, and players like them, cost more than £30 million to buy before you even take into account agent commissions and the multi-million pound wage deals. My plan and my strategy for Newcastle is different. It has to be. It takes time. It can't be done overnight. Newcastle has therefore set up an extensive scouting system. We look for young players, for players in foreign leagues who everyone does not know about. We try and stay ahead of the competition. We search high and low looking for value, for potential that we can bring on and for players who will allow Newcastle to compete at the very highest level but who don't cost the earth." And look at the date:14/09/2008. That's after he'd shown his true colours. <-- that quote epitomises "the transfer system" that keegan apparently agreed with to come back a year ago. im still waiting for you or somebody else to show where he's said we'll spend our way up the league btw. No, that would have been this (contradicting one).. "The caliber of player we want to bring in is someone with a lot of Premiership experience or Champions League experience and they are in short supply. We are at a stage where we don't want to just bring players in to add to the squad, we want players who are going to be in the first team." Chris Mort 02/08/2007 The one you refer to is from after Keegan left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?showtopic=22300&st=0 I don't think I can see any quotes from Ashley there that are are that heinous or even particularly unreasonable in context. Things change, Kinnear drops a bollock or two, but lies and propaganda? Meh, I think you are crediting the club with a little too much intelligence and showing very little yourself trying to whip up outrage with some cherry picked (and at best tenuously connected) lines there Mr Happy Face. That's exactly the point; they keep changing the context, hence contradictions, half truths and propaganda.. That's putting it nicely as well. Some might say the supporters have been deliberately lied to in order to sell season tickets for three years in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 True, but that was never said before Keegan left, was it? No, it wasn't. not in as many words, but it was obvious enough. we knew that we were going to be buying young, promising players instead of old, experienced ones wanting big contracts like the ones we're stuck with now. we all knew about this all summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobby_solano Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 what was that quote about from ashley last summer promising a 'wow' signing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Mongo Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 The "wow signing" has never been confirmed as a quote. I'm pretty sure he promised to add players to the threadbare squad at the beginning of last summer's transfer window, though, but I can't find the quote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 "The truth is that Newcastle could not sustain buying the Shevchenko's, Robinho's or the Berbatov's. These are recognised European footballers. They have played in the European leagues and everyone knows about them. They can be brilliant signings. But everybody knows that they are brilliant and so they, and players like them, cost more than £30 million to buy before you even take into account agent commissions and the multi-million pound wage deals. My plan and my strategy for Newcastle is different. It has to be. It takes time. It can't be done overnight. Newcastle has therefore set up an extensive scouting system. We look for young players, for players in foreign leagues who everyone does not know about. We try and stay ahead of the competition. We search high and low looking for value, for potential that we can bring on and for players who will allow Newcastle to compete at the very highest level but who don't cost the earth." What possessed him to go after the recognised European Footballer Modric ? keegan wanted him? the deal was right? he's a young, talented player? it hardly the same type of deal as spending £30 million on shevchenko or robinho is it? Yes it is. How old is Robinho like ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 True, but that was never said before Keegan left, was it? No, it wasn't. not in as many words, but it was obvious enough. we knew that we were going to be buying young, promising players instead of old, experienced ones wanting big contracts like the ones we're stuck with now. we all knew about this all summer. Load of rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 "The truth is that Newcastle could not sustain buying the Shevchenko's, Robinho's or the Berbatov's. These are recognised European footballers. They have played in the European leagues and everyone knows about them. They can be brilliant signings. But everybody knows that they are brilliant and so they, and players like them, cost more than £30 million to buy before you even take into account agent commissions and the multi-million pound wage deals. My plan and my strategy for Newcastle is different. It has to be. It takes time. It can't be done overnight. Newcastle has therefore set up an extensive scouting system. We look for young players, for players in foreign leagues who everyone does not know about. We try and stay ahead of the competition. We search high and low looking for value, for potential that we can bring on and for players who will allow Newcastle to compete at the very highest level but who don't cost the earth." And look at the date:14/09/2008. That's after he'd shown his true colours. <-- that quote epitomises "the transfer system" that keegan apparently agreed with to come back a year ago. im still waiting for you or somebody else to show where he's said we'll spend our way up the league btw. No, that would have been this (contradicting one).. "The caliber of player we want to bring in is someone with a lot of Premiership experience or Champions League experience and they are in short supply. We are at a stage where we don't want to just bring players in to add to the squad, we want players who are going to be in the first team." Chris Mort 02/08/2007 The one you refer to is from after Keegan left. But where is the contradiction? What they don't want to do is just bring in squad players or young players like Bassong, Taylor, Guthrie, Ranger etc.. but get players in that can go into the first team ala Collo, Jonas, Nolan, who have Premiership or top European experience etc, but that it's difficult. What is not at least understandable about that? How does that go against them saying that we cannot sustain bringing in the Shevchenko's, Robinho's or the Berbatov's, but will build up slowly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 "The truth is that Newcastle could not sustain buying the Shevchenko's, Robinho's or the Berbatov's. These are recognised European footballers. They have played in the European leagues and everyone knows about them. They can be brilliant signings. But everybody knows that they are brilliant and so they, and players like them, cost more than £30 million to buy before you even take into account agent commissions and the multi-million pound wage deals. My plan and my strategy for Newcastle is different. It has to be. It takes time. It can't be done overnight. Newcastle has therefore set up an extensive scouting system. We look for young players, for players in foreign leagues who everyone does not know about. We try and stay ahead of the competition. We search high and low looking for value, for potential that we can bring on and for players who will allow Newcastle to compete at the very highest level but who don't cost the earth." And look at the date:14/09/2008. That's after he'd shown his true colours. <-- that quote epitomises "the transfer system" that keegan apparently agreed with to come back a year ago. im still waiting for you or somebody else to show where he's said we'll spend our way up the league btw. No, that would have been this (contradicting one).. "The caliber of player we want to bring in is someone with a lot of Premiership experience or Champions League experience and they are in short supply. We are at a stage where we don't want to just bring players in to add to the squad, we want players who are going to be in the first team." Chris Mort 02/08/2007 The one you refer to is from after Keegan left. the first part is true. players with lots of premiership and champions league experience at the right age ARE in short supply, especially as we're not a very attractive prospect compared to other clubs bidding for similar players. the second part is true enough as most of the players we got in have gone into the first team. guthrie, jonas, bassong and coloccini are regulars and 2 of them have been our best 2 players. the adding of the younger players for the youth teams is a different area altogether. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 "The truth is that Newcastle could not sustain buying the Shevchenko's, Robinho's or the Berbatov's. These are recognised European footballers. They have played in the European leagues and everyone knows about them. They can be brilliant signings. But everybody knows that they are brilliant and so they, and players like them, cost more than £30 million to buy before you even take into account agent commissions and the multi-million pound wage deals. My plan and my strategy for Newcastle is different. It has to be. It takes time. It can't be done overnight. Newcastle has therefore set up an extensive scouting system. We look for young players, for players in foreign leagues who everyone does not know about. We try and stay ahead of the competition. We search high and low looking for value, for potential that we can bring on and for players who will allow Newcastle to compete at the very highest level but who don't cost the earth." What possessed him to go after the recognised European Footballer Modric ? keegan wanted him? the deal was right? he's a young, talented player? it hardly the same type of deal as spending £30 million on shevchenko or robinho is it? Yes it is. How old is Robinho like ? his age is irrelevant when he cost twice what modric did and is on £160k a week. we simply cant afford that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 True, but that was never said before Keegan left, was it? No, it wasn't. not in as many words, but it was obvious enough. we knew that we were going to be buying young, promising players instead of old, experienced ones wanting big contracts like the ones we're stuck with now. we all knew about this all summer. Load of rubbish. if you couldnt see that we were after younger players who we would get the best out of instead of buying old-ish players who we would be getting on their way down then no wonder you're disappointed. did you not hear the "players that are right" talk? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Mongo Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 But where is the contradiction? What they don't want to do is just bring in squad players or young players like Bassong, Taylor, Guthrie, Ranger etc.. but get players in that can go into the first team ala Collo, Jonas, Nolan, who have Premiership or top European experience etc, but that it's difficult. What is not at least understandable about that? How does that go against them saying that we cannot sustain bringing in the Shevchenko's, Robinho's or the Berbatov's, but will build up slowly. We've never brought in "the Shevchenko's (sic), Robinho's (sic) or the Berbatov's (sic)". We've had players like Robert, Bellamy and Solano, all far better players than anyone brought in under the Ashley regime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I thought that NOTW interview with Ashley was fabricated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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