LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 NUFC players whose contracts end Summer 2009: - Cacapa Owen Harper Butt Ameobi Edgar Danquah Viduka Morris Doninger Donaldson Godsmark Marwood Lough There are a lot of first team players to replace or negotiate new contracts for in that list. Information taken from: - http://www.nufc.com/2008-09html/squad.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparta Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 NUFC players whose contracts end Summer 2009: - Cacapa Owen Harper Butt Ameobi Edgar Danquah Viduka Morris Doninger Donaldson Godsmark Marwood Lough There are a lot of first team players to replace or negotiate new contracts for in that list. Information taken from: - http://www.nufc.com/2008-09html/squad.html yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 I reckon out of that lot Harper will stay (by 'that lot' I mean first team players). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Regardless of what anyone thinks of them individually, that's SEVEN first team players who - unless drastic action is taken - are almost certain to leave the club. All are able to talk to other clubs in two month's time. If nothing happens soon we'll need one of these hyper-billionaires to ensure we have a squad at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Regardless of what anyone thinks of them individually, that's SEVEN first team players who - unless drastic matters are taken - are almost certain to leave the club. All are able to talk to other clubs in two month's time. If nothing happens soon we'll need one of these hyper-billionaires to ensure we have a squad at all. That's where the £20m/young player recruitment would have failed miserably (and still may do). We have to replace our only two decent strikers which would take the £20m as it stands leaving nowt for the rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Owen, Harper,Edgar, Donaldson, Godsmark are worth keeping imo, the rest can go.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Regardless of what anyone thinks of them individually, that's SEVEN first team players who - unless drastic matters are taken - are almost certain to leave the club. All are able to talk to other clubs in two month's time. If nothing happens soon we'll need one of these hyper-billionaires to ensure we have a squad at all. That's where the £20m/young player recruitment would have failed miserably (and still may do). We have to replace our only two decent strikers which would take the £20m as it stands leaving nowt for the rest. I agree with the majority but don't you think Martins is "decent" ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 I agree with the majority but don't you think Martins is "decent" ? Sorry no - he's a clown in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Regardless of what anyone thinks of them individually, that's SEVEN first team players who - unless drastic action is taken - are almost certain to leave the club. All are able to talk to other clubs in two month's time. If nothing happens soon we'll need one of these hyper-billionaires to ensure we have a squad at all. It's all good though. We can buy some more youngsters who we can sell on in a few years time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 The only one worth keeping out of that lot is clearly Owen. Ameobi... yeah, let's not talk about him. Viduka's perpetually injured and costing us a fuckload in wages, Cacapa's average and old, Butt is shit etc. We'll only miss Owen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 The only one worth keeping out of that lot is clearly Owen. Ameobi... yeah, let's not talk about him. Viduka's perpetually injured and costing us a fuckload in wages, Cacapa's average and old, Butt is shit etc. We'll only miss Owen. But will have a tiny squad with inadequate overall quality and no decent strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 The only one worth keeping out of that lot is clearly Owen. Ameobi... yeah, let's not talk about him. Viduka's perpetually injured and costing us a fuckload in wages, Cacapa's average and old, Butt is shit etc. We'll only miss Owen. But will have a tiny squad with inadequate overall quality and no decent strikers. I'm sure with the money that Ashley has allowed to be spent on first team affairs means we have nothing to worry about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sniffer Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Don't know much about the kids but agree that apart from Owen, the rest can leave and I wouldn't get my knickers in a twist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Don't know much about the kids but agree that apart from Owen, the rest can leave and I wouldn't get my knickers in a twist. Not sure anyone would argue they will be a loss in terms of how good they are, but if they all go we need bodies to replace them at the very least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Don't know much about the kids but agree that apart from Owen, the rest can leave and I wouldn't get my knickers in a twist. Like others have said, it's not necessarily the players leaving that is the problem it's the replacing them. We've already got a small squad and losing seven first team players in one transfer window is almost impossible to replace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 The only one worth keeping out of that lot is clearly Owen. Ameobi... yeah, let's not talk about him. Viduka's perpetually injured and costing us a fuckload in wages, Cacapa's average and old, Butt is shit etc. We'll only miss Owen. But will have a tiny squad with inadequate overall quality and no decent strikers. In the past 7-8 years, when have we ever had a beefed up first team squad with adequate overall quality? We did well because we had players who can change games and they stayed fit for the majority of the time. We qualified for the CL with a defence of Hughes, Dabizas, O'Brien and Bernard. Not exactly stellar, is it? Butt was here during SBR's time and he was that bad that we had to loan him out to a club which eventually got relegated. We had no decent back-up for Robert and whenever Bellamy got injured, we lost steam (could have won a title if Bellamy had stayed fit..). Lua-Lua wasn't an adequate replacement for Bellamy and neither was Ameobi an adequate replacement for Shearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Would like to keep Harper, think he is a very good back up keeper for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 The only one worth keeping out of that lot is clearly Owen. Ameobi... yeah, let's not talk about him. Viduka's perpetually injured and costing us a fuckload in wages, Cacapa's average and old, Butt is shit etc. We'll only miss Owen. But will have a tiny squad with inadequate overall quality and no decent strikers. In the past 7-8 years, when have we ever had a beefed up first team squad with adequate overall quality? We did well because we had players who can change games and they stayed fit for the majority of the time. We qualified for the CL with a defence of Hughes, Dabizas, O'Brien and Bernard. Not exactly stellar, is it? Butt was here during SBR's time and he was that bad that we had to loan him out to a club which eventually got relegated. We had no decent back-up for Robert and whenever Bellamy got injured, we lost steam (could have won a title if Bellamy had stayed fit..). Lua-Lua wasn't an adequate replacement for Bellamy and neither was Ameobi an adequate replacement for Shearer. Being lucky in getting away with it in the past is no reason to do something - the time you mention is also over 5 years ago now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Would like to keep Harper, think he is a very good back up keeper for us. Same here, but his lack of games this season combined with the contract and general club scenarios may see him finally leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sniffer Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Don't know much about the kids but agree that apart from Owen, the rest can leave and I wouldn't get my knickers in a twist. Like others have said, it's not necessarily the players leaving that is the problem it's the replacing them. We've already got a small squad and losing seven first team players in one transfer window is almost impossible to replace. Apart from Owen, the rest are either over the hill, don't contribute or shouldn't be here in the first place. So there are plenty of players better than them who will come. Money talks and we'll still pay better than most clubs particularly at the quality level of these players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Keep Owen, Harper, and maybe Danquah and two or three more youth/reserve players. The rest are more or less dispensable and in several cases (Cacapa, Butt, Ameobi, Viduka) need replacing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Harper are Owen are good enough to play first-team football. Dunno if we can afford to let Ameobi AND Viduka go (especially if Owen leaves), Cacapa can go if we find a good replacement and maybe keep a couple of young 'uns on (Danquah, Donaldson). The rest can go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 I'm not too worried about losing most of those players. The problem is the sheer numbers to replace. Assuming all the players whose contracts end in Summer 2009 leave and only considering first team players: - I think we are fine for Goalkeepers with Given, Soderberg, Forster and Krul. Apart from Given, only Krul has first team experience but look how many games Harper gets when Given is fit. Coloccini, Enrique, Bassong, Beye and Taylor is very light, especially for left and right back. Barton, Guthrie, Duff, N'Zogbia, Gutierrez and Geremi is short on Centre Midfield and Right Wing. Martins, Smith (who I don't rate in any position never mind striker) and Xisco is extremely thin. There are a few players who can play out of their favourite position if we have to but that shouldn't be the clubs policy. At the time of writing we aren't the most attractive club to attract players. Looking at the list I'd say we need two good strikers, at least one more centre midfielder (preferably a creative one), a right winger, a right back, a centre back and possibly another left back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 Don't know much about the kids but agree that apart from Owen, the rest can leave and I wouldn't get my knickers in a twist. Pretty much agreed, although I'd far rather we kept Harper than let him go. Nailed on that Butt will get offered a new deal, sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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