cp40 Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Someone who was there said that's exactly what happened when this first came out, I can't be arsed to find it but it will be on here somewhere. Didn't someone on here basically say he lobbed the glass at him from the other end of the bar? that but it was the glassed blokes own fault. cos he hoyed a drink first and that made Carols hand wet, leading to the glass flying from his wet hand....genius tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Even hurling the contents of a glass at someone is nearly always reckless as there's always the chance the glass will slip out of your hand. Defence must have insisted that the basis of plea was that there was no intent or recklessness, reflected in the relatively mild sentence. My guess is that it wasn't worth 4 days at Crown Court and they went for a shorter trial. Is that possible? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Does Mr Cook get done for assault as well then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Does Mr Cook get done for assault as well then? Did his glass hit Carroll? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Does Mr Cook get done for assault as well then? Did his glass hit Carroll? No but his drink went all over some lass. The glass was an accident, proven in court apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 No but his drink went all over some lass. The glass was an accident, proven in court apparently. I thought that the lass was the first to throw a drink? Also taking the word of somebody who admits to have downed 8 or 9 pints is bizarre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphrodite Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Even hurling the contents of a glass at someone is nearly always reckless as there's always the chance the glass will slip out of your hand. Defence must have insisted that the basis of plea was that there was no intent or recklessness, reflected in the relatively mild sentence. My guess is that it wasn't worth 4 days at Crown Court and they went for a shorter trial. Is that possible? I think Carroll pleaded guilty, which would mean a shorter trial (as you wouldn't need cross-examining of witness etc). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Prosecution obviously knew they couldn't prove the intent to throw the glass. I'm guessing crappy CCTV footage after all, the quality in many pubs and clubs is generally terrible. Maybe a witness didn't turn up to compound the problem. Whatever, he's dodged a bullet. I wouldn't be surprised if the common assault on the girl is also binned. yep- needs to learn from it tho. Especially now every dickhead in Newcastle thinks all they have to do is start on him and they might be in for a nice payday. needs to take himself out of it altogether tbh. If he absolutely has to go out on the piss, he should consider doing so where every other person doesn't know him and his behaviour. Yeah, he should stick to doing it at the house of someone he knows where there's no chance of any trouble. Oh no wait......................................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 I can't imagine why there would be too much trouble if he was out in Newcastle, the majority are very likely to be Newcastle fans first and radgies second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Prosecution obviously knew they couldn't prove the intent to throw the glass. I'm guessing crappy CCTV footage after all, the quality in many pubs and clubs is generally terrible. Maybe a witness didn't turn up to compound the problem. Whatever, he's dodged a bullet. I wouldn't be surprised if the common assault on the girl is also binned. The CCTV footage was good & there were plenty of witnesses who gave statements on the night & at later date. That is the reason Cook could not take his loot because the fuzz made it clear to people in this mix they had enough evidence. As a regular reader of the Chron & Journal I read day in day out s*** sentencing from local courts so this is no surprise & seem harsh tbh. He should not be judged on the job he does or the money he has just that he is prick from Gateshead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Prosecution obviously knew they couldn't prove the intent to throw the glass. I'm guessing crappy CCTV footage after all, the quality in many pubs and clubs is generally terrible. Maybe a witness didn't turn up to compound the problem. Whatever, he's dodged a bullet. I wouldn't be surprised if the common assault on the girl is also binned. The CCTV footage was good & there were plenty of witnesses who gave statements on the night & at later date. That is the reason Cook could not take his loot because the fuzz made it clear to people in this mix they had enough evidence. As a regular reader of the Chron & Journal I read day in day out s*** sentencing from local courts so this is no surprise & seem harsh tbh. He should not be judged on the job he does or the money he has just that he is prick from Gateshead. How do you know all this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 He can't get enough of footballers' private lives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Mick- all that would have mattered this morning was the amount of evidence available to the prosecution. If they were only 50% confident of a conviction for abh, it's the right decision to accept the plea to the lesser offence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 He can't get enough of footballers' private lives. Private?!?!? It happened in the Bigg Market Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Prosecution obviously knew they couldn't prove the intent to throw the glass. I'm guessing crappy CCTV footage after all, the quality in many pubs and clubs is generally terrible. Maybe a witness didn't turn up to compound the problem. Whatever, he's dodged a bullet. I wouldn't be surprised if the common assault on the girl is also binned. The CCTV footage was good & there were plenty of witnesses who gave statements on the night & at later date. That is the reason Cook could not take his loot because the fuzz made it clear to people in this mix they had enough evidence. As a regular reader of the Chron & Journal I read day in day out s*** sentencing from local courts so this is no surprise & seem harsh tbh. He should not be judged on the job he does or the money he has just that he is prick from Gateshead. How do you know all this? I worked in a nightclub for quite a few years, I have many friends who work in nightclubs as managers & doorstaff. As for the 2nd part I buy the paper versions of both local rags (LeedsDave knows my guilty pleasure is the screws) & I would say from what is known about what happened to Cook it is not as bad http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/evening-chronicle-news/2010/02/11/family-s-fury-as-street-attack-thug-walks-free-72703-25813550/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Mick- all that would have mattered this morning was the amount of evidence available to the prosecution. If they were only 50% confident of a conviction for abh, it's the right decision to accept the plea to the lesser offence. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 From the mackem hysteria board: "Regardless of Carroll's background he should have gone down for GBH!" Thick as utter pig shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 This just means the mackems will be twice as sore if he scores. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Hughton: "Kevin looks after him very well," added the Toon boss. "I think he arranges his supper at the right time and makes sure he's tucked in on time to get a full night's sleep! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Where's that from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Where's that from? http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6468451,00.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Where's that from? http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6468451,00.html It looks like we've found out who has been doing the twitter piss take. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 Class from Hughton that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
womblemaster Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 maybe the good mates need a disco theme to celebrate after this court result..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6ywXcKYQ4k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 I can't imagine why there would be too much trouble if he was out in Newcastle, the majority are very likely to be Newcastle fans first and radgies second. More so the fact that he always acts like a cock when he's in town, same goes for Ranger aswell. Other players can keep a low profile and stay out of trouble/unwanted attention fairly easily but it's not a coincidence how he gets himself in these situations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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