Guest neesy111 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 When I left the office today I had to go back in because I'd forgotten to do something. As I turned my laptop on I realised I hadn't even noticed in the morning that my login was 'carroll'. Mine was changed to our new hero Stephen Ireland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I know i'm as soft as shite but after about 30 seconds of the lfc interview, i felt sorry for him. He looks uncomfortable. I wonder if he woke up this morning and wondered "what the fuck have I done?" Somewhere in my heart I want him to regret it already - despite all the money. What a fucking tragic 30 hours. We should have got him to share digs with Shola in retrospect. He'd have probably ended up paying us to keep him here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 This is on True Faith, Everybody's talking page 7: Just wanted to add to the growing evidence that Andy Carroll has been sold against his wishes. I work with Ryan Taylor’s dad down here on Merseyside. He has just texted me to say that Ryan was with Carroll at the training ground yesterday and that the lad was inconsolable as he didn’t want to go. Apparently he was in a right state and it was clear that the club gave him no option but to leave. The total twats. Cheers David Coulson, Knowsley, Merseyside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I don't suppose anyone has done one of those videos that reconstruct events (like Ashley sacking Hughton one) ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xywtXJIa64o anyone have a link for the hughton one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 This is on True Faith, Everybody's talking page 7: Just wanted to add to the growing evidence that Andy Carroll has been sold against his wishes. I work with Ryan Taylor’s dad down here on Merseyside. He has just texted me to say that Ryan was with Carroll at the training ground yesterday and that the lad was inconsolable as he didn’t want to go. Apparently he was in a right state and it was clear that the club gave him no option but to leave. The total twats. Cheers David Coulson, Knowsley, Merseyside. What utter shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Tbf to Carroll, he did look utterly unconsolable when he arrived at Melwood. Surprised he didn't try to jump out of the moving car, he looked that gutted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 This is on True Faith, Everybody's talking page 7: Just wanted to add to the growing evidence that Andy Carroll has been sold against his wishes. I work with Ryan Taylors dad down here on Merseyside. He has just texted me to say that Ryan was with Carroll at the training ground yesterday and that the lad was inconsolable as he didnt want to go. Apparently he was in a right state and it was clear that the club gave him no option but to leave. The total twats. Cheers David Coulson, Knowsley, Merseyside. And still nobody can explain how they forced him to hand in a transfer request. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Tbf to Carroll, he did look utterly unconsolable when he arrived at Melwood. Surprised he didn't try to jump out of the moving car, he looked that gutted. He's probably had his first views of Liverpool in daylight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 This is on True Faith, Everybody's talking page 7: Just wanted to add to the growing evidence that Andy Carroll has been sold against his wishes. I work with Ryan Taylor’s dad down here on Merseyside. He has just texted me to say that Ryan was with Carroll at the training ground yesterday and that the lad was inconsolable as he didn’t want to go. Apparently he was in a right state and it was clear that the club gave him no option but to leave. The total twats. Cheers David Coulson, Knowsley, Merseyside. I still don't get how he could be forced into it. The best possible explanation for his actions would be that he did it because he felt he wasn't wanted. It just doesn't add up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 This is on True Faith, Everybody's talking page 7: Just wanted to add to the growing evidence that Andy Carroll has been sold against his wishes. I work with Ryan Taylor’s dad down here on Merseyside. He has just texted me to say that Ryan was with Carroll at the training ground yesterday and that the lad was inconsolable as he didn’t want to go. Apparently he was in a right state and it was clear that the club gave him no option but to leave. The total twats. Cheers David Coulson, Knowsley, Merseyside. True Faith, the same people that are creating a dictatorship at the NUST. I believe that story 0%. He asked for a new contract for more money, no one can force a player to leave a club especially if they have 5 years left on their contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I doubt any of them would try and tell Carroll what to do with him towering over them and his past record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 There is so much bullshit flying about from both NUFC and Carroll. I still think it's a stupid amount of money for someone who has had a decent half season in the premier league, and if it were to be reinvested in the team I would probably feel ok about it. But I don't think it will be. I also don't buy for a second that Carroll was forced out. He could have said no at any stage. Ashley has ended up making a hell of a lot of money, Carroll's agent has made a hell of a lot of money, Carroll has made a hell of a lot of money. All three will be laughing all the way to the bank! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 To be fair in that interview Carroll looks about as pleased to be there as Owen did when he landed here from Madrid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I think all of us want to believe Carroll, the alternative would really shake my football belief system. I hope he's telling the truth, and I hope the truth comes out, because now I think I'd feel better with the anger of Ashley fucking us over, than Carroll doing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 There is so much bullshit flying about from both NUFC and Carroll. I still think it's a stupid amount of money for someone who has had a decent half season in the premier league, and if it were to be reinvested in the team I would probably feel ok about it. But I don't think it will be. I also don't buy for a second that Carroll was forced out. He could have said no at any stage. Ashley has ended up making a hell of a lot of money, Carroll's agent has made a hell of a lot of money, Carroll has made a hell of a lot of money. All three will be laughing all the way to the bank! We're the only ones who have been shafted in all of this, as usual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 A canny perspective on things. http://soccerlens.com/lies-what-andy-carroll-and-newcastle-arent-telling-the-fans/64987/ Just an opinion, possibly 2+2=5, but interesting nonetheless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 When I left the office today I had to go back in because I'd forgotten to do something. As I turned my laptop on I realised I hadn't even noticed in the morning that my login was 'carroll'. Mine was changed to our new hero Stephen Ireland. Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Anybody read this? http://soccerlens.com/lies-what-andy-carroll-and-newcastle-arent-telling-the-fans/64987/ “Despite getting the best financial deal of the day you suspect Newcastle will end up being the window’s biggest losers.” – Adrian Clarke. In a nutshell, that’s what Liverpool’s record £35m signing of Andy Carroll from Newcastle United boils down to – they got silly money that they couldn’t refuse, but with no time to reinforce the squad, they now face 4 months without one of their best players and might as well be dragged into a relegation battle given the tight nature of the bottom half of the table. Andy Carroll has said that he didn’t want to leave Newcastle, and that the board asked him to sign a transfer request and basically ‘backed him into a corner’. Adrian (see his twitter stream from the link above) argues that clubs force players out all the time, and objectively speaking if Newcastle had received the £35m bid at any other point in the transfer window (or indeed the next summer) it would have been madness not to sell – £35m could easily be spent on much-needed strengthening of the playing squad. Andy Carroll: “[Managing director] Derek [Llambias] asked me to hand in a transfer request, so I was pushed into a corner and had no choice. I wasn’t wanted by them and they made it clear they wanted the money. Then I flew down in (owner Mike Ashley’s) helicopter. I didn’t want to leave. I’m gutted that I wasn’t wanted at my home team after everything I have done and the progress I have made. I didn’t want to leave at all. Make sure they know I didn’t want to leave.” Newcastle manager Alan Pardew has hit back at Carroll’s claims of being ‘forced out’, saying that in light of Liverpool’s offer he had asked for a new contract (after recently signing a long-term deal) and that once that request was turned down, asked to leave. Alan Pardew: “I went to see Andy, and face to face we had a conversation about him wanting a new contract, even though he signed on in October, and (he said) if he didn’t get that contract, he wanted to go.” So what really happened? Firstly, I don’t think Carroll wanted to go. He (or his agent) knew about the Liverpool offer, knew the wages that were on offer, and probably decided to use that as leverage to get an improved contract. Problem was, the money on the table was too high to be dismissed out of hand, and the wages on offer were too high to match for a club that has been desperately trying to curtail expenses / wages in the last two years. Secondly, did the Newcastle ownership think it was a good deal to cash in on Andy Carroll when the first offer came in? Probably. You’d consider it, even if you knew that the club needed to keep the player to re-establish themselves in the Premier League, and that keeping Carroll in the face of bigger clubs making silly bids would bring them some much-needed credibility after the Hughton decision. “Sounds like Carroll and his agent had their bluff called by Ashley. One push too far, owner cracks, game changes and Carroll’s in a corner.” – Iain Macintosh It seems like Carroll went ahead and asked for a raise, and if so, it was rightly rejected by the Newcastle board for being too soon after his previous contract signing. And it also seems likely that Newcastle were aware that a big-money, last-minute move for the player was due to come in, and they had at least entertained the idea of Newcastle say Carroll asked for a raise, and asked to leave if he didn’t get it. Carroll says he didn’t want to go. You can’t have both, so while it’s likely that Carroll did push for an improved contract, it also seems like Newcastle were less inclined to keep him than he (or anyone else) thought, and when they saw the money and Carroll’s strategy on the last day, they pushed the deal through. Carroll, for what it’s worth, gets a bumper wage hike, a nice signing-on bonus while his agent gets a good deal too. He’s going to play in a bigger club with bigger aspirations, although the move is probably an year too soon for him and it remains to be seen if Liverpool can properly manage him. Newcastle will suffer, although if Pardew can keep the team in the Premier League and is given the 35m to spend on rebuilding the squad this summer, they might come out of it all right. Regardless of what fans may feel about agents, Mike Ashley and Alan Pardew (or young footballers), this is what happens when there’s a lot of money involved. Loyalties are cast aside, and only the ugly truth remains. The thing with football is, we spend so much time pretending this isn’t true that we get surprised every time it happens. This is probably the most accurate assessment of the whole episode - and sadly, the guy is right too, when he says Carroll has joined a bigger club with bigger aspirations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 i see our captain Nolan is now on lfctv banging on about what a great signing carroll will be for liverpool, f*** me. wonder when we can expect gerrard to wax lyrical over torres on chelsea tv. un f***ing believable just a little disclaimer i dont know if its a new interview or old one but as i dont have lfctv however it looks like its new looking at description Why is anyone surprised ? Nolan is a Scouser first and NUFC player a long way behind that. Scousers believe, as do the rest of the country, that Liverpool are a much bigger club that NUFC and if you take away a few years in the 90s, they are right...we couldn't even beat them at their place in 96, and it cost us the title. The only time we've been a bigger club was back on the early 20th Century and for a few years in the 50s. We have been their rabbits and they know it... they've signed our best players over the years and its been like winning the FA Cup(no, we couldn't even do THAT when we played them at Wembley) when we've beaten them because it hasn't happened often...nobody who supports NUFC wants to admit it but they are the facts...why do you think they were taken over recently and we weren't ?? If you think this is wrong, you are living in a different dimension. Even if we had won the PL in 96, we would have had a long way to go to get anywhere near their record of success - Man U are only just approaching their record of titles. Its warm in summer, cold in winter - and NUFC are a very moderate club when compared to Liverpool - I don't like it, but there it is. If we couldn't change it in the 90s, we aint going to do it now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 This is on True Faith, Everybody's talking page 7: Just wanted to add to the growing evidence that Andy Carroll has been sold against his wishes. I work with Ryan Taylors dad down here on Merseyside. He has just texted me to say that Ryan was with Carroll at the training ground yesterday and that the lad was inconsolable as he didnt want to go. Apparently he was in a right state and it was clear that the club gave him no option but to leave. The total twats. Cheers David Coulson, Knowsley, Merseyside. And still nobody can explain how they forced him to hand in a transfer request. of how anybody forced him to sign the bloody contract? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Miss you Andy, you cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filflop1 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 This has agent engineering move all over it, carrol has done what rooney and gerrard have done in the past tried to hold the club to ransom or I'm off but Newcastle stood there ground and said if you want that cash now you will have to move and stick a request in which he did and he left greed wins again I mean I really don't know how carrol was going to manage on 30k a week until the summer ffs. He will be gutted cause he probably expected ash n co to shit themselves and pay him the big wedge now, the agent then would have forced his head into the move so he gets his big wedge and carrol gets his pay rise now its just a sad state of the game these days driven by greed. Carrol will probably return in a few years for a lot less than we paid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I know i'm as soft as shite but after about 30 seconds of the lfc interview, i felt sorry for him. He looks uncomfortable. I wonder if he woke up this morning and wondered "what the fuck have I done?" Somewhere in my heart I want him to regret it already - despite all the money. What a fucking tragic 30 hours. I got that impression too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Haha, Dave, who runs the board, had a super weak password Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Haha, Dave, who runs the board, had a super weak password What? You cracked it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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