olliemort Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 The only gd thing abt Shay leaving is we may get some players in exchange.Kolo Toure handed in a transfer request but dont think hes the kinda centre back we need,hes not good and strong enough in the air.Who would ye guys be interested in getting from the teams interested? We've got no chance of getting someone like Kolo Toure. True :-[ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 I don't like the idea of him leaving half way through the season, and coming out with this negative statement at a time when you want everyone to be pulling together. If he wants to leave at the end of the season, fine, but the timing is bad at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 I can see us bringing in total shit to replace what decent players we have and still not resolvng the currrent state of the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 I don't like the idea of him leaving half way through the season, and coming out with this negative statement at a time when you want everyone to be pulling together. If he wants to leave at the end of the season, fine, but the timing is bad at the moment. We're close to doing a football equivalent of Chernobyl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 You need psychological help, I'm 100% sure about that. if you mean me, why not debate these points with alternative factual information if you can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 My position is clear. If you want to take it to PM, I'll happily do so. part of Givens quote ‘When he signed a new five-year contract in 2006 it was on the basis that the club would challenge for major honours, but on the present evidence all that he can see ahead with the turmoil on and off the pitch is a battle for survival." Pm me about it if you like, but I can't see the point. This, in my opinion, is what this is all about, however you and one or two others might wish to deny it. Well done. That quote beautifully summarises my main point: that this shambolic regime looks to be the final straw for Given, but that he's been consistently let down by Shepherd as well as Ashley & Co. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 My position is clear. If you want to take it to PM, I'll happily do so. part of Givens quote ‘When he signed a new five-year contract in 2006 it was on the basis that the club would challenge for major honours, but on the present evidence all that he can see ahead with the turmoil on and off the pitch is a battle for survival." Pm me about it if you like, but I can't see the point. This, in my opinion, is what this is all about, however you and one or two others might wish to deny it. we haven't challenged for major honours since robsons team finished 3rd, been downhill ever since. 3rd. Under the embarrassing old regime ? You don't say. How can that be possible. Back on topic, interesting to see the expected people now glossing over this and building up Harper. Probably said the same thing about Ian Bogie replacing Gazza. How marvellous to see the club with the 3rd biggest support in the country resort to losing its best players again. On the other hand, as mick predictably doesn't reply, I'm only 99.9% sure. true. i wouldnt have picked him. ? I laughed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 My position is clear. If you want to take it to PM, I'll happily do so. part of Givens quote ‘When he signed a new five-year contract in 2006 it was on the basis that the club would challenge for major honours, but on the present evidence all that he can see ahead with the turmoil on and off the pitch is a battle for survival." Pm me about it if you like, but I can't see the point. This, in my opinion, is what this is all about, however you and one or two others might wish to deny it. Well done. That quote beautifully summarises my main point: that this shambolic regime looks to be the final straw for Given, but that he's been consistently let down by Shepherd as well as Ashley & Co. "on the basis that the club would be challenging for honours" doesn't quite read like that to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 My position is clear. If you want to take it to PM, I'll happily do so. part of Givens quote ‘When he signed a new five-year contract in 2006 it was on the basis that the club would challenge for major honours, but on the present evidence all that he can see ahead with the turmoil on and off the pitch is a battle for survival." Pm me about it if you like, but I can't see the point. This, in my opinion, is what this is all about, however you and one or two others might wish to deny it. we haven't challenged for major honours since robsons team finished 3rd, been downhill ever since. 3rd. Under the embarrassing old regime ? You don't say. How can that be possible. Back on topic, interesting to see the expected people now glossing over this and building up Harper. Probably said the same thing about Ian Bogie replacing Gazza. How marvellous to see the club with the 3rd biggest support in the country resort to losing its best players again. On the other hand, as mick predictably doesn't reply, I'm only 99.9% sure. good to see you admitting we've been going downhill since that time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MW Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Setanta News poll, 80% of people in poll say he is too good for Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 My position is clear. If you want to take it to PM, I'll happily do so. part of Givens quote ‘When he signed a new five-year contract in 2006 it was on the basis that the club would challenge for major honours, but on the present evidence all that he can see ahead with the turmoil on and off the pitch is a battle for survival." Pm me about it if you like, but I can't see the point. This, in my opinion, is what this is all about, however you and one or two others might wish to deny it. we haven't challenged for major honours since robsons team finished 3rd, been downhill ever since. 3rd. Under the embarrassing old regime ? You don't say. How can that be possible. Back on topic, interesting to see the expected people now glossing over this and building up Harper. Probably said the same thing about Ian Bogie replacing Gazza. How marvellous to see the club with the 3rd biggest support in the country resort to losing its best players again. On the other hand, as mick predictably doesn't reply, I'm only 99.9% sure. Got free tickets for a game at Old Trafford off Bogie, iirc the game was Football League Centenary Cup game. I think your a tad harsh on Harper. Also comparing the sale of Gazza or Waddle or Pedro would be wrong as that was the club cashing in record fee's to at the time bigger clubs, this is player wanting out because of "turmoil on and off the pitch " which is far more depressing for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 My position is clear. If you want to take it to PM, I'll happily do so. part of Givens quote ‘When he signed a new five-year contract in 2006 it was on the basis that the club would challenge for major honours, but on the present evidence all that he can see ahead with the turmoil on and off the pitch is a battle for survival." Pm me about it if you like, but I can't see the point. This, in my opinion, is what this is all about, however you and one or two others might wish to deny it. we haven't challenged for major honours since robsons team finished 3rd, been downhill ever since. 3rd. Under the embarrassing old regime ? You don't say. How can that be possible. Back on topic, interesting to see the expected people now glossing over this and building up Harper. Probably said the same thing about Ian Bogie replacing Gazza. How marvellous to see the club with the 3rd biggest support in the country resort to losing its best players again. On the other hand, as mick predictably doesn't reply, I'm only 99.9% sure. because you know,like the vast majority of people on here who think the previous board done well,then lost it. we've been over this a million times and it's pointless as you wont accept the way the club was going backwrads under the previous board. you could say it was as bad as selling ferdinand ,against his will in the large part aswell. see post 290. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 My position is clear. If you want to take it to PM, I'll happily do so. part of Givens quote ‘When he signed a new five-year contract in 2006 it was on the basis that the club would challenge for major honours, but on the present evidence all that he can see ahead with the turmoil on and off the pitch is a battle for survival." Pm me about it if you like, but I can't see the point. This, in my opinion, is what this is all about, however you and one or two others might wish to deny it. we haven't challenged for major honours since robsons team finished 3rd, been downhill ever since. 3rd. Under the embarrassing old regime ? You don't say. How can that be possible. Back on topic, interesting to see the expected people now glossing over this and building up Harper. Probably said the same thing about Ian Bogie replacing Gazza. How marvellous to see the club with the 3rd biggest support in the country resort to losing its best players again. On the other hand, as mick predictably doesn't reply, I'm only 99.9% sure. because you know,like the vast majority of people on here who think the previous board done well,then lost it. we've been over this a million times and it's pointless as you wont accept the way the club was going backwrads under the previous board. you could say it was as bad as selling ferdinand ,against his will in the large part aswell. see post 290. i amended my previous post to a more simple "good to see you admitting we've been going backwards since that time" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 My position is clear. If you want to take it to PM, I'll happily do so. part of Givens quote ‘When he signed a new five-year contract in 2006 it was on the basis that the club would challenge for major honours, but on the present evidence all that he can see ahead with the turmoil on and off the pitch is a battle for survival." Pm me about it if you like, but I can't see the point. This, in my opinion, is what this is all about, however you and one or two others might wish to deny it. we haven't challenged for major honours since robsons team finished 3rd, been downhill ever since. 3rd. Under the embarrassing old regime ? You don't say. How can that be possible. Back on topic, interesting to see the expected people now glossing over this and building up Harper. Probably said the same thing about Ian Bogie replacing Gazza. How marvellous to see the club with the 3rd biggest support in the country resort to losing its best players again. On the other hand, as mick predictably doesn't reply, I'm only 99.9% sure. because you know,like the vast majority of people on here who think the previous board done well,then lost it. we've been over this a million times and it's pointless as you wont accept the way the club was going backwrads under the previous board. you could say it was as bad as selling ferdinand ,against his will in the large part aswell. see post 290. Or any of the thirty-five million posts just like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 My position is clear. If you want to take it to PM, I'll happily do so. part of Givens quote ‘When he signed a new five-year contract in 2006 it was on the basis that the club would challenge for major honours, but on the present evidence all that he can see ahead with the turmoil on and off the pitch is a battle for survival." Pm me about it if you like, but I can't see the point. This, in my opinion, is what this is all about, however you and one or two others might wish to deny it. we haven't challenged for major honours since robsons team finished 3rd, been downhill ever since. 3rd. Under the embarrassing old regime ? You don't say. How can that be possible. Back on topic, interesting to see the expected people now glossing over this and building up Harper. Probably said the same thing about Ian Bogie replacing Gazza. How marvellous to see the club with the 3rd biggest support in the country resort to losing its best players again. On the other hand, as mick predictably doesn't reply, I'm only 99.9% sure. because you know,like the vast majority of people on here who think the previous board done well,then lost it. we've been over this a million times and it's pointless as you wont accept the way the club was going backwrads under the previous board. you could say it was as bad as selling ferdinand ,against his will in the large part aswell. see post 290. yip the club took action...........they appointed souness and roeder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 My position is clear. If you want to take it to PM, I'll happily do so. part of Givens quote ‘When he signed a new five-year contract in 2006 it was on the basis that the club would challenge for major honours, but on the present evidence all that he can see ahead with the turmoil on and off the pitch is a battle for survival." Pm me about it if you like, but I can't see the point. This, in my opinion, is what this is all about, however you and one or two others might wish to deny it. we haven't challenged for major honours since robsons team finished 3rd, been downhill ever since. 3rd. Under the embarrassing old regime ? You don't say. How can that be possible. Back on topic, interesting to see the expected people now glossing over this and building up Harper. Probably said the same thing about Ian Bogie replacing Gazza. How marvellous to see the club with the 3rd biggest support in the country resort to losing its best players again. On the other hand, as mick predictably doesn't reply, I'm only 99.9% sure. Got free tickets for a game at Old Trafford off Bogie, iirc the game was Football League Centenary Cup game. I think your a tad harsh on Harper. Also comparing the sale of Gazza or Waddle or Pedro would be wrong as that was the club cashing in record fee's to at the time bigger clubs, this is player wanting out because of "turmoil on and off the pitch " which is far more depressing for me. I'm not demeaning Harper mate, he's a good keeper, but the whole picture of our best players, who are the backbone of the club, wanting to leave the club because they think its going nowhere. And they are sadly correct too. Just because we've got a good number 2 doesn't mean we should sell the number 1 either, that sort of thinking is for 2nd rate clubs like Blackburn, Bristol City, Bolton etc....unless of course that is the way they are intending that we are run in future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 if we get £15m for him, which i would expect from city, then it is very good business Death knell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 My position is clear. If you want to take it to PM, I'll happily do so. part of Givens quote ‘When he signed a new five-year contract in 2006 it was on the basis that the club would challenge for major honours, but on the present evidence all that he can see ahead with the turmoil on and off the pitch is a battle for survival." Pm me about it if you like, but I can't see the point. This, in my opinion, is what this is all about, however you and one or two others might wish to deny it. we haven't challenged for major honours since robsons team finished 3rd, been downhill ever since. 3rd. Under the embarrassing old regime ? You don't say. How can that be possible. Back on topic, interesting to see the expected people now glossing over this and building up Harper. Probably said the same thing about Ian Bogie replacing Gazza. How marvellous to see the club with the 3rd biggest support in the country resort to losing its best players again. On the other hand, as mick predictably doesn't reply, I'm only 99.9% sure. because you know,like the vast majority of people on here who think the previous board done well,then lost it. we've been over this a million times and it's pointless as you wont accept the way the club was going backwrads under the previous board. you could say it was as bad as selling ferdinand ,against his will in the large part aswell. see post 290. yip the club took action...........they appointed souness and roeder. Shame we don't appoint the right man every time just like everybody else does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 My position is clear. If you want to take it to PM, I'll happily do so. part of Givens quote ‘When he signed a new five-year contract in 2006 it was on the basis that the club would challenge for major honours, but on the present evidence all that he can see ahead with the turmoil on and off the pitch is a battle for survival." Pm me about it if you like, but I can't see the point. This, in my opinion, is what this is all about, however you and one or two others might wish to deny it. we haven't challenged for major honours since robsons team finished 3rd, been downhill ever since. 3rd. Under the embarrassing old regime ? You don't say. How can that be possible. Back on topic, interesting to see the expected people now glossing over this and building up Harper. Probably said the same thing about Ian Bogie replacing Gazza. How marvellous to see the club with the 3rd biggest support in the country resort to losing its best players again. On the other hand, as mick predictably doesn't reply, I'm only 99.9% sure. because you know,like the vast majority of people on here who think the previous board done well,then lost it. we've been over this a million times and it's pointless as you wont accept the way the club was going backwrads under the previous board. you could say it was as bad as selling ferdinand ,against his will in the large part aswell. see post 290. Or any of the thirty-five million posts just like it. aye, its about time someone encouraged some replies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 if we get £15m for him, which i would expect from city, then it is very good business All this good business is a bit sad. Milner good business. Shay good business. Newcastle United poorer team is not good business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 My position is clear. If you want to take it to PM, I'll happily do so. part of Givens quote ‘When he signed a new five-year contract in 2006 it was on the basis that the club would challenge for major honours, but on the present evidence all that he can see ahead with the turmoil on and off the pitch is a battle for survival." Pm me about it if you like, but I can't see the point. This, in my opinion, is what this is all about, however you and one or two others might wish to deny it. we haven't challenged for major honours since robsons team finished 3rd, been downhill ever since. 3rd. Under the embarrassing old regime ? You don't say. How can that be possible. Back on topic, interesting to see the expected people now glossing over this and building up Harper. Probably said the same thing about Ian Bogie replacing Gazza. How marvellous to see the club with the 3rd biggest support in the country resort to losing its best players again. On the other hand, as mick predictably doesn't reply, I'm only 99.9% sure. because you know,like the vast majority of people on here who think the previous board done well,then lost it. we've been over this a million times and it's pointless as you wont accept the way the club was going backwrads under the previous board. you could say it was as bad as selling ferdinand ,against his will in the large part aswell. see post 290. yip the club took action...........they appointed souness and roeder. Shame we don't appoint the right man every time just like everybody else does. been here before and you never name a club who made such poor decisions as often and didn't take the blame for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 My position is clear. If you want to take it to PM, I'll happily do so. part of Givens quote ‘When he signed a new five-year contract in 2006 it was on the basis that the club would challenge for major honours, but on the present evidence all that he can see ahead with the turmoil on and off the pitch is a battle for survival." Pm me about it if you like, but I can't see the point. This, in my opinion, is what this is all about, however you and one or two others might wish to deny it. we haven't challenged for major honours since robsons team finished 3rd, been downhill ever since. 3rd. Under the embarrassing old regime ? You don't say. How can that be possible. Back on topic, interesting to see the expected people now glossing over this and building up Harper. Probably said the same thing about Ian Bogie replacing Gazza. How marvellous to see the club with the 3rd biggest support in the country resort to losing its best players again. On the other hand, as mick predictably doesn't reply, I'm only 99.9% sure. because you know,like the vast majority of people on here who think the previous board done well,then lost it. we've been over this a million times and it's pointless as you wont accept the way the club was going backwrads under the previous board. you could say it was as bad as selling ferdinand ,against his will in the large part aswell. see post 290. yip the club took action...........they appointed souness and roeder. Shame we don't appoint the right man every time just like everybody else does. been here before and you never name a club who made such poor decisions as often and didn't take the blame for it. eerrr........but they have. They have gone, you have what you wanted. Automatic better replacements ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 My position is clear. If you want to take it to PM, I'll happily do so. part of Givens quote ‘When he signed a new five-year contract in 2006 it was on the basis that the club would challenge for major honours, but on the present evidence all that he can see ahead with the turmoil on and off the pitch is a battle for survival." Pm me about it if you like, but I can't see the point. This, in my opinion, is what this is all about, however you and one or two others might wish to deny it. we haven't challenged for major honours since robsons team finished 3rd, been downhill ever since. 3rd. Under the embarrassing old regime ? You don't say. How can that be possible. Back on topic, interesting to see the expected people now glossing over this and building up Harper. Probably said the same thing about Ian Bogie replacing Gazza. How marvellous to see the club with the 3rd biggest support in the country resort to losing its best players again. On the other hand, as mick predictably doesn't reply, I'm only 99.9% sure. because you know,like the vast majority of people on here who think the previous board done well,then lost it. we've been over this a million times and it's pointless as you wont accept the way the club was going backwrads under the previous board. you could say it was as bad as selling ferdinand ,against his will in the large part aswell. see post 290. yip the club took action...........they appointed souness and roeder. Shame we don't appoint the right man every time just like everybody else does. been here before and you never name a club who made such poor decisions as often and didn't take the blame for it. eerrr........but they have. They have gone, you have what you wanted. Automatic better replacements ? and they deserved the blame..yes ? are you admitting their appointments took the club backwards ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_NUFC Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 This shows the shambolic nature of NUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 This shows the shambolic nature of NUFC i agree and i apologise for slightly derailing the thread to a monotonous level. ne5 if you want to carry it in this vein.....back to the other thread with ya and i'll repley after i've made pancakes for the girls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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