Guest toonlass Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 So who do you think is the most important, and influential player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 If it was overall, I'd say Given for his influence over the other players and his genuine care and want for the club to succeed. But, in terms of this season, Owen's goals are vital to us staying up. It was shown in the Liverpool game that no matter how good Shay is, if the rest of the team is shit it makes no difference. Scoring goals, not preventing the opposition from, wins games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Owen, all day. Harper in goal, Owen upfront - i doubt our results would fluctuate that much. Given in goal, Ameobi upfront - i think the results would be considerably different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Owen, all day. Harper in goal, Owen upfront - i doubt our results would fluctuate that much. Given in goal, Ameobi upfront - i think the results would be considerably different. In a nutshell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliemort Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Shay Given on a good day is like having 2 keepers in goals.I personally think Given cares alot abt Newcastle which can rub off on other players where as Owen couldnt give two fucks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 In the long term... Shay Given on a good day is like having 2 keepers in goals.I personally think Given cares alot abt Newcastle which can rub off on other players where as Owen couldnt give two fucks Between now and the end of the season... Owen, all day. Harper in goal, Owen upfront - i doubt our results would fluctuate that much. Given in goal, Ameobi upfront - i think the results would be considerably different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Owen staying would be a bigger boost than Shay. As mentioned Harper would come in and do a decent job if Given departed. The impact would be bigger off the pitch imo, it would show (true or not) an indication of the ambition of the club which would not only impact the players at the club but any prospective signings for the summer. Owen is a much bigger pull for players and if he was to sign on again would be a huge boost the fans, players and anyone involved in the club. Whilst obviously Shay staying would be fantastic too the reaction would be far less monumental. The stone cold reality is both players will be gone come next pre-season, where that leaves us we will have to find out. Whomever is in charge of the team and the club by that point will have the biggest challenge of any manager to walk through the doors in the past 10 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Why did Owen celebrate today like he'd scored the winning goal in a cup final ? Because he is so happy he has just signed a £120,00 a week deal with Man City ? Ahhh you geordie cunts, this is what i want to do to you, smackkk, and this is what you are missing. Someone please inform me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Can a man not celebrate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Aye, like Owen cant be replaced with another forward. I mean seriously Given and Owen? Lose Given and we have Harper in nets, but we still have Michael Owen who will be linked away with the club every single window until he does eventually leave, and threads like this will continually be created. Lose Owen however, and we replace him with another forward, and we still have the loyal Shay Given who is the only thing that resembles a legend at this club these days. He may also be the last one we will see for some time. Dont forget lads this isnt the first time a transfer request came in from Shay, this doesnt mean Given is off or that he is disloyal. Given anyday of the week, he means a million times more to NUFC than Owen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Owen, all day. Harper in goal, Owen upfront - i doubt our results would fluctuate that much. Given in goal, Ameobi upfront - i think the results would be considerably different. In a nutshell. Please tell me how losing Owen means Ameobi is up front? Like we wont replace Owen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Owen staying would be a bigger boost than Shay. As mentioned Harper would come in and do a decent job if Given departed. The impact would be bigger off the pitch imo, it would show (true or not) an indication of the ambition of the club which would not only impact the players at the club but any prospective signings for the summer. Owen is a much bigger pull for players and if he was to sign on again would be a huge boost the fans, players and anyone involved in the club. Whilst obviously Shay staying would be fantastic too the reaction would be far less monumental. The stone cold reality is both players will be gone come next pre-season, where that leaves us we will have to find out. Whomever is in charge of the team and the club by that point will have the biggest challenge of any manager to walk through the doors in the past 10 years. Owen has no pull for us, its a myth mate. He has been here 4 years and we have pulled fuck all from him being here, infact we have severely declined since he signed, not his fault i know, but why would that all of a sudden change anything? To the world of football now, Owen is a has-been mate. If he stays, he stays, if he goes, replace him, simple. He means nothing to the fans at the end of the day, people might bleat on about him, but he isnt fit to lace Given's boots in terms of meaning to this club and its fans. Given or Owen? Shay Given any day of the week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Why did Owen celebrate today like he'd scored the winning goal in a cup final ? Because he is so happy he has just signed a £120,00 a week deal with Man City ? Ahhh you geordie cunts, this is what i want to do to you, smackkk, and this is what you are missing. Someone please inform me What the hell are you on about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 In the long term... Shay Given on a good day is like having 2 keepers in goals.I personally think Given cares alot abt Newcastle which can rub off on other players where as Owen couldnt give two fucks Between now and the end of the season... Owen, all day. Harper in goal, Owen upfront - i doubt our results would fluctuate that much. Given in goal, Ameobi upfront - i think the results would be considerably different. Owen is here to the end of the season though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 This is thread domination taken to new levels! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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merlin Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Aye, like Owen cant be replaced with another forward. I mean seriously Given and Owen? Lose Given and we have Harper in nets, but we still have Michael Owen who will be linked away with the club every single window until he does eventually leave, and threads like this will continually be created. Lose Owen however, and we replace him with another forward, and we still have the loyal Shay Given who is the only thing that resembles a legend at this club these days. He may also be the last one we will see for some time. Dont forget lads this isnt the first time a transfer request came in from Shay, this doesnt mean Given is off or that he is disloyal. Given anyday of the week, he means a million times more to NUFC than Owen. Totally disagree with this - the question was 'who id the most important to the team between now and the end of season'....are you SERIOUSLY trying to tell us that we can do without Owen more that Given?? In case you hadn't actually thought about it, and just acted on emotion, let me ask you this ; Who is going to get the goals between now and the end of the season if Owen goes - Martins??? Don't think so, and in any case, he could be out for 5 weeks... Viduka?? See above... Carroll?? Do me a favour... Jonas?? See above.. You shot down your own argument by saying that if Given leaves, we have Harper in the net - EXACTLY, and he isn't far behind Given(in fact, better in some ways)as a keeper.. Owen goes, and the odds on the club going down go down to evens or better....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 sack the board Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Aye, like Owen cant be replaced with another forward. I mean seriously Given and Owen? Lose Given and we have Harper in nets, but we still have Michael Owen who will be linked away with the club every single window until he does eventually leave, and threads like this will continually be created. Lose Owen however, and we replace him with another forward, and we still have the loyal Shay Given who is the only thing that resembles a legend at this club these days. He may also be the last one we will see for some time. Dont forget lads this isnt the first time a transfer request came in from Shay, this doesnt mean Given is off or that he is disloyal. Given anyday of the week, he means a million times more to NUFC than Owen. Totally disagree with this - the question was 'who id the most important to the team between now and the end of season'....are you SERIOUSLY trying to tell us that we can do without Owen more that Given?? In case you hadn't actually thought about it, and just acted on emotion, let me ask you this ; Who is going to get the goals between now and the end of the season if Owen goes - Martins??? Don't think so, and in any case, he could be out for 5 weeks... Viduka?? See above... Carroll?? Do me a favour... Jonas?? See above.. You shot down your own argument by saying that if Given leaves, we have Harper in the net - EXACTLY, and he isn't far behind Given(in fact, better in some ways)as a keeper.. Owen goes, and the odds on the club going down go down to evens or better....... The fact is mate, this is a pointless argument when Owen has said he will be here to the end of the season. Why not start a thread and ask if you would rather live without your eyes or your ears? Pointless argument, when are you in that position where you have to choose? Are we in a position to chose between Owen and Given? No we arnt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Why did Owen celebrate today like he'd scored the winning goal in a cup final ? Because he is so happy he has just signed a £120,00 a week deal with Man City ? Ahhh you geordie cunts, this is what i want to do to you, smackkk, and this is what you are missing. Someone please inform me What the hell are you on about? I'm on about Michael Owens goal celebration today, what was it all about ? A hint he may want to stay, or what Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Why did Owen celebrate today like he'd scored the winning goal in a cup final ? Because he is so happy he has just signed a £120,00 a week deal with Man City ? Ahhh you geordie cunts, this is what i want to do to you, smackkk, and this is what you are missing. Someone please inform me What the hell are you on about? I'm on about Michael Owens goal celebration today, what was it all about ? A hint he may want to stay, or what Probably just celebrating a goal mate, we are in trouble and he wants us to do well im sure of it, a goal puts us on the way to a win which puts us on the way to 3 valuable points. Right now Owen is NUFC, nothing else imo, at least on the pitch anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Say what you like about off-the-field matters but imo, he clearly loves football, and doubt he ever gets tired of the thrill of sticking the ball in the back of the net. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Owen, all day. Harper in goal, Owen upfront - i doubt our results would fluctuate that much. Given in goal, Ameobi upfront - i think the results would be considerably different. In a nutshell. Please tell me how losing Owen means Ameobi is up front? Like we wont replace Owen? The main reason I consider Owen more important at the moment is that we know Harper is a capable deputy. Whoever replaces Owen we know nothing about at the moment, and is likely to be nowhere near as good because of how much our stock has fallen. Both are immensely important though, and it seems a bit daft making a competition out of it, but I bit and I think Owens the more important. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jawesome Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Owen, but I'd prefer it if we kept Shay and let Owen fuck off. Shay means more to this club than Owen can ever imagine to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Given easily, imo. It's possible to win games in which Owen goes missing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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