Guest neesy111 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Anybody who continues this anti keegan stance has absolutely no credibilty left whatsoever. Wonder what their motive is tbh my problem with keegan, is that he's a quitter, walked out on us last time, and left england right up the shit, i still have the view point he only came back for the money as well but that does not mean i'm backing ashley etc, i've wanted them out for ages, and i have been misled big time over this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 This is the best result possible for everyone. Keegan is vindicated, the club isn't cleaned out and the sale to Barry Moat should now go through assuming Ashley doesn't pull another rabbit from the hat. I'm really pleased with it yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 As a result, he claims that he has not only lost the salary and other benefits which he would otherwise have received under the Contract, amounting in total, he says, to £8,607,534 but he also claims “stigma damages” on the basis that as a further consequence, he has found it and will continue to find it difficult, if not impossible, to obtain work again as a top flight manager as a result of which he will lose up to a further £16.5m representing the income which he would otherwise reasonably have expected to receive up to his 65th birthday. There is no stigma as he has been totally vindicated. If Keegan is worth having as a manager then surely a premier club will gladly have him? Not that i think there'll be a queue of owners lining up to give him a job like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey_C_73 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I think there's a lot more to it than this. For example the sale of James Milner and the club not buying players he wanted, but what has been cited in this tribunal is all he can really hold against the club. I believe Keegan did the right thing, but personally I think the reason given was more the 'final straw' rather than the main reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilky Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 This is interesting IMO " "However, if we had had to address this issue, we would have decided that the publication of a finding by us that Mr Keegan had resigned because he had been constructively dismissed by the Club and not because he had decided to walk away, would restore his reputation and in evidence he agreed with that proposition." Essentially Keegan giving up on claiming further damages so that this report could be published. Never let the mans integrity be questioned again. Anyone attmempting to be anti-Keegan now is simply looking at any angle to justify their stupid statements earlier in this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alan Shearer 9 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Can someone get the bits that exonerate Keegan and put them on the site? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Can someone get the bits that exonerate Keegan and put them on the site? Why don't you read it for yourself? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 This is interesting IMO " "However, if we had had to address this issue, we would have decided that the publication of a finding by us that Mr Keegan had resigned because he had been constructively dismissed by the Club and not because he had decided to walk away, would restore his reputation and in evidence he agreed with that proposition." Essentially Keegan giving up on claiming further damages so that this report could be published. Never let the mans integrity be questioned again. Anyone attmempting to be anti-Keegan now is simply looking at any angle to justify their stupid statements earlier in this thread. QFT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Anybody who continues this anti keegan stance has absolutely no credibilty left whatsoever. My qualm with Keegan is that he gave up on us (again) and dumped the club in the shit from a sporting perspective and left us in the hands of people we thought were cunts (and apparently he knew were cunts). I have never defended Ashley, and was expecting this type of verdict. However how does this change what my problem with Keegan is? It doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 This is interesting IMO " "However, if we had had to address this issue, we would have decided that the publication of a finding by us that Mr Keegan had resigned because he had been constructively dismissed by the Club and not because he had decided to walk away, would restore his reputation and in evidence he agreed with that proposition." Essentially Keegan giving up on claiming further damages so that this report could be published. Never let the mans integrity be questioned again. Anyone attmempting to be anti-Keegan now is simply looking at any angle to justify their stupid statements earlier in this thread. good point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alan Shearer 9 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Can someone get the bits that exonerate Keegan and put them on the site? Why don't you read it for yourself? I have, it would be beneficial for NUFC fans to be able to access it even easier though wouldn't it? You selfish cretin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 My qualm with Keegan is that he gave up on us (again) and dumped the club in the s*** from a sporting perspective and left us in the hands of people we thought were c***s (and apparently he knew were c***s). I have never defended Ashley, and was expecting this type of verdict. However how does this change what my problem with Keegan is? It doesn't. How could he work with that crowd though? KK is not like us he has millions in the bank so he can do one if he working with a bunch of shits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Hot fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Can someone get the bits that exonerate Keegan and put them on the site? Why don't you read it for yourself? I have, it would be beneficial for NUFC fans to be able to access it even easier though wouldn't it? You selfish cretin. Can they not use the internet you horrible boy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 first thing i do find notable reading through it (not finished) is keegan was seeking 25m 8.6m plus 16.5 in "stigma damages" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Get in. It's clear that Llambias/Ashley are devious, lying cretins. The entire statement casts doubt on their claims about Keegan from the start. They basically went in there and lied their heads off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepharite Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Llambias - Liar, Ashley - Liar, Mort(surprisingly) - Liar, Wise - Liar. You Tube, "Commercial Deals", favours to South American agents... What a despicable shower of shit! Fuck off you set of twats. Sorry Kevin for ever doubting you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alan Shearer 9 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 So essentially he walked because we signed Nacho on loan; the signing was a favour to two south american agents who would deal favourably with us in the future in light of this transfer deal, however it was done without Keegan's consent as he didn't want the player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alan Shearer 9 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Can someone get the bits that exonerate Keegan and put them on the site? Why don't you read it for yourself? I have, it would be beneficial for NUFC fans to be able to access it even easier though wouldn't it? You selfish cretin. Can they not use the internet you horrible boy? No, some of them are geriatric and can't make enough clicks to get on a PDF you gargantuan imbecile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 My qualm with Keegan is that he gave up on us (again) and dumped the club in the s*** from a sporting perspective and left us in the hands of people we thought were c***s (and apparently he knew were c***s). I have never defended Ashley, and was expecting this type of verdict. However how does this change what my problem with Keegan is? It doesn't. How could he work with that crowd though? KK is not like us he has millions in the bank so he can do one if he working with a bunch of shits. yep, as the pdf shows, it wouldve been difficult to go back as they tried to wrest transfer decisions from him and probably wouldve walked all over him, and as the mud-slinging, lies and general rampant unprofessionalism of the club over the last year and a bit has shown, it would've been impossible to forge a healthy working relationship with that group of dickheads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robm Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 On the 2million clause In view of the near impossibility of estimating precisely what his loss would be, we consider such an approach to be reasonable and to represent a reasonable pre-estimate of his loss to the extent that it was possible to carry out this exercise at all. It follows that, in our judgment, Clause 14.8.1 does not amount to a penalty clause. We note, although we do not base our conclusion on this, that when cross-examined, Mr Keegan very fairly accepted that Clause 14.8.1 was fair and reasonable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepharite Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 So essentially he walked because we signed Nacho on loan; the signing was a favour to two south american agents who would deal favourably with us in the future in light of this transfer deal, however it was done without Keegan's consent as he didn't want the player. Effect Cause... He didn't have final say on players coming in. His "Golden Rule". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Anybody who continues this anti keegan stance has absolutely no credibilty left whatsoever. My qualm with Keegan is that he gave up on us (again) and dumped the club in the s*** from a sporting perspective and left us in the hands of people we thought were c***s (and apparently he knew were c***s). I have never defended Ashley, and was expecting this type of verdict. However how does this change what my problem with Keegan is? It doesn't. How the hell can you work with wankers like AShley and his crew, you cant, they are a bunch if clueless bellends. he didn't want to walk away but felt he had to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Llambias - Liar, Ashley - Liar, Mort(surprisingly) - Liar, Wise - Liar. You Tube, "Commercial Deals", favours to South American agents... What a despicable shower of s***! f*** off you set of twats. Sorry Kevin for ever doubting you. The best summing up as yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 first thing i do find notable reading through it (not finished) is keegan was seeking 25m 8.6m plus 16.5 in "stigma damages" i doubt they were ever expecting that sum. also keegan gave up the stigma damages in order to get the truth out and accepted having his good name restored by the judgement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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