Parky Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 So your happy for them to say nothing even tho the clubs in the worst shape it has been in its prem history? You dont even want them to attempt to communicate with the fans, the ones who turn out week in week out which keeps the club going? Strange. Dude, I'm far from happy, that would be ridiculous. I'm just saying that I think the issue of 'communication' is a red herring, and just a way for people to express their different grievances. I suppose making a tidy profit in a mission critical transfer window is also a red herring? "Dude". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 If I hear/read someone use that "they made the profit they wanted to" line again I will shoot the perpetrator. Yes, Kinnear and Ashley et al are more or less to blame for them wanting out... but Given and Insomnia wanted to leave. We did not want to sell them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dover Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Dear Mike, Please fuck Joe Kinnear off out of SJP Yours Sincerely Dover Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 If I hear/read someone use that "they made the profit they wanted to" line again I will shoot the perpetrator. Yes, Kinnear and Ashley et al are more or less to blame for them wanting out... but Given and Insomnia wanted to leave. We did not want to sell them. Tell me about it. I can't be arsed to argue anymore. Just listened to the full NUSC meeting and I've rarely heard anything more depressing. It really breaks my heart to hear a room full of fans so hurt and betrayed by their football club, and what they're essentially doing is futilely lashing out at whoever is within reach. They don't have a chance of ever affecting a real change, they don't even seem to know what they want and why. The focus on removing Dennis Wise was also bizarre, when nobody knows what he has done wrong (if anything). The problem they've got is that any point anyone makes, it is assumed it has to be underpinned by the premise that Ashley is evil and the only answer is to hound him out. I wouldn't dare to turn up to one of their meetings and express the kind of points I do on here... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 If I hear/read someone use that "they made the profit they wanted to" line again I will shoot the perpetrator. Yes, Kinnear and Ashley et al are more or less to blame for them wanting out... but Given and Insomnia wanted to leave. We did not want to sell them. What's that got to do with making a profit again? "They" wanted to leave a club that is being run into the ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 If I hear/read someone use that "they made the profit they wanted to" line again I will shoot the perpetrator. Yes, Kinnear and Ashley et al are more or less to blame for them wanting out... but Given and Insomnia wanted to leave. We did not want to sell them. Tell me about it. I can't be arsed to argue anymore. Just listened to the full NUSC meeting and I've rarely heard anything more depressing. It really breaks my heart to hear a room full of fans so hurt and betrayed by their football club, and what they're essentially doing is futilely lashing out at whoever is within reach. They don't have a chance of ever affecting a real change, they don't even seem to know what they want and why. The focus on removing Dennis Wise was also bizarre, when nobody knows what he has done wrong (if anything). The problem they've got is that any point anyone makes, it is assumed it has to be underpinned by the premise that Ashley is evil and the only answer is to hound him out. I wouldn't dare to turn up to one of their meetings and express the kind of points I do on here... From what I heard yesterday, there were differing views on most things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 If I hear/read someone use that "they made the profit they wanted to" line again I will shoot the perpetrator. Yes, Kinnear and Ashley et al are more or less to blame for them wanting out... but Given and Insomnia wanted to leave. We did not want to sell them. Tell me about it. I can't be arsed to argue anymore. Just listened to the full NUSC meeting and I've rarely heard anything more depressing. It really breaks my heart to hear a room full of fans so hurt and betrayed by their football club, and what they're essentially doing is futilely lashing out at whoever is within reach. They don't have a chance of ever affecting a real change, they don't even seem to know what they want and why. The focus on removing Dennis Wise was also bizarre, when nobody knows what he has done wrong (if anything). The problem they've got is that any point anyone makes, it is assumed it has to be underpinned by the premise that Ashley is evil and the only answer is to hound him out. I wouldn't dare to turn up to one of their meetings and express the kind of points I do on here... From what I heard yesterday, there were differing views on most things. One or two dissenting voices, but they were mainly just acknowledged and then ignored. I didn't hear anyone make an impact on the anti-Ashley stance. One of the committee seemed to be more reasonable, but the main guy (I assume the chairman) was pretty focussed. Just my take after one listen through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 If I hear/read someone use that "they made the profit they wanted to" line again I will shoot the perpetrator. Yes, Kinnear and Ashley et al are more or less to blame for them wanting out... but Given and Insomnia wanted to leave. We did not want to sell them. Tell me about it. I can't be arsed to argue anymore. Just listened to the full NUSC meeting and I've rarely heard anything more depressing. It really breaks my heart to hear a room full of fans so hurt and betrayed by their football club, and what they're essentially doing is futilely lashing out at whoever is within reach. They don't have a chance of ever affecting a real change, they don't even seem to know what they want and why. The focus on removing Dennis Wise was also bizarre, when nobody knows what he has done wrong (if anything). The problem they've got is that any point anyone makes, it is assumed it has to be underpinned by the premise that Ashley is evil and the only answer is to hound him out. I wouldn't dare to turn up to one of their meetings and express the kind of points I do on here... From what I heard yesterday, there were differing views on most things. One or two dissenting voices, but they were mainly just acknowledged and then ignored. I didn't hear anyone make an impact on the anti-Ashley stance. One of the committee seemed to be more reasonable, but the main guy (I assume the chairman) was pretty focussed. Just my take after one listen through. Fair enough. How should we move forward then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Fair enough. How should we move forward then? I'm not sure TBH, it's a fecking tough one! As NUSC? They were set up to get Ashley out so IMO to call themselves 'NUSC' at all is a misnomer and only confuses their true aims. If they really are a supporters club they should get on with doing what normal supporters clubs do, whatever that might be. I really think that in the current situation there's nothing to be gained by causing aggravation. They should tell their members and all NUFC fans to forget about anything except getting behind the team until the end of the season. We can't afford to go down. As the club? Ashley needs to grow some balls and stick to his original system, so that would mean bringing in a manager who can work with it. I'd like to see Llambias go and a more fan-friendly chairman come in, but since when have chairmen been fan-friendly?! I'm rambling a bit because I don't really have the answer! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Am listening to it now. Unless they get a way to talk to the club then they are an impotent force. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 but since when have chairmen been fan-friendly?! Mort? To an extent at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 but since when have chairmen been fan-friendly?! Mort? To an extent at least. Yeah, he was the exception, I would take him back in a flash. It was maybe easier for him because he had a defined brief and a definite time-span. His remit clearly didn't seem to include on the pitch matters either, so that spared him any fan wrath. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 A lad spoke about 19 mins in, saying he was not prepared to cancel his direct debit as its the cheapest option for him to see all the home games. If he buys his tickets singley it will cost him more. He stated he didn't care who managed, who owned the club, as long as a team turned out in black and white on that pitch he would be there. This is exactly how I feel. I am not prepared to pay more for my tickets, and I will still be going. I think quite a lot of people feel the same way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 If I hear/read someone use that "they made the profit they wanted to" line again I will shoot the perpetrator. Yes, Kinnear and Ashley et al are more or less to blame for them wanting out... but Given and Insomnia wanted to leave. We did not want to sell them. Tell me about it. I can't be arsed to argue anymore. Just listened to the full NUSC meeting and I've rarely heard anything more depressing. It really breaks my heart to hear a room full of fans so hurt and betrayed by their football club, and what they're essentially doing is futilely lashing out at whoever is within reach. They don't have a chance of ever affecting a real change, they don't even seem to know what they want and why. The focus on removing Dennis Wise was also bizarre, when nobody knows what he has done wrong (if anything). The problem they've got is that any point anyone makes, it is assumed it has to be underpinned by the premise that Ashley is evil and the only answer is to hound him out. I wouldn't dare to turn up to one of their meetings and express the kind of points I do on here... From what I heard yesterday, there were differing views on most things. One or two dissenting voices, but they were mainly just acknowledged and then ignored. I didn't hear anyone make an impact on the anti-Ashley stance. One of the committee seemed to be more reasonable, but the main guy (I assume the chairman) was pretty focussed. Just my take after one listen through. Fair enough. How should we move forward then? If we're stuck with Ashley, as I think we are (and thank heavens, frankly, despite all his bumbling that we didn't still have the old lot in control when global financial meltdown time came along) then any fan organisation should be looking to find ways to work with the guy because our fortunes are intertwined for the forseeable. Naturally an organization whose unshakeable principle is "Ashley Out" is a perfectly useless vehicle for this purpose. NUSC is, ultimately, an irrelevance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 If I hear/read someone use that "they made the profit they wanted to" line again I will shoot the perpetrator. Yes, Kinnear and Ashley et al are more or less to blame for them wanting out... but Given and Insomnia wanted to leave. We did not want to sell them. What's that got to do with making a profit again? "They" wanted to leave a club that is being run into the ground. You're moaning about them making a profit when you can't prove that's what they were/are after, even if it looks that way given the lack of funds coming out of us. I'm well aware of your second sentence, I even say as much in that post. I'm not disagreeing that Given/Insomnia left mainly because of the club's ineptitude, and nor am I disagreeing that the profit they've made on the likes of them and Milner hasn't been put to good use. I am disagreeing with this idea that they wanted to sell. I don't think we'd have spent much regardless of who left the club, and that is a sorry state of affairs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 If I hear/read someone use that "they made the profit they wanted to" line again I will shoot the perpetrator. Yes, Kinnear and Ashley et al are more or less to blame for them wanting out... but Given and Insomnia wanted to leave. We did not want to sell them. What's that got to do with making a profit again? "They" wanted to leave a club that is being run into the ground. You're moaning about them making a profit when you can't prove that's what they were/are after, even if it looks that way given the lack of funds coming out of us. I'm well aware of your second sentence, I even say as much in that post. I'm not disagreeing that Given/Insomnia left mainly because of the club's ineptitude, and nor am I disagreeing that the profit they've made on the likes of them and Milner hasn't been put to good use. I am disagreeing with this idea that they wanted to sell. I don't think we'd have spent much regardless of who left the club, and that is a sorry state of affairs. The whole squad was up for sale in the summer vis a vie Owen being touted and Barton telling us the club was trying to sell him. I don't believe for a minute they even made a bid for Johnson regardless of what they say. What happened to the two int class loanees? Gomis, the right back, the wow signing...Where are all these players JFK keeps spouting on about. I'm not moaning at all I'm just bemused by the level of horseshit we're being fed. It's not ineptitude either it is they way they roll, they are investing in the baseline and extracting organic profit from the business it is as clear as day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Is there a link to the Caulkin article? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 If I hear/read someone use that "they made the profit they wanted to" line again I will shoot the perpetrator. Yes, Kinnear and Ashley et al are more or less to blame for them wanting out... but Given and Insomnia wanted to leave. We did not want to sell them. What's that got to do with making a profit again? "They" wanted to leave a club that is being run into the ground. You're moaning about them making a profit when you can't prove that's what they were/are after, even if it looks that way given the lack of funds coming out of us. I'm well aware of your second sentence, I even say as much in that post. I'm not disagreeing that Given/Insomnia left mainly because of the club's ineptitude, and nor am I disagreeing that the profit they've made on the likes of them and Milner hasn't been put to good use. I am disagreeing with this idea that they wanted to sell. I don't think we'd have spent much regardless of who left the club, and that is a sorry state of affairs. The whole squad was up for sale in the summer vis a vie Owen being touted and Barton telling us the club was trying to sell him. I don't believe for a minute they even made a bid for Johnson regardless of what they say. What happened to the two int class loanees? Gomis, the right back, the wow signing...Where are all these players JFK keeps spouting on about. I'm not moaning at all I'm just bemused by the level of horseshit we're being fed. It's not ineptitude either it is they way they roll, they are investing in the baseline and extracting organic profit from the business it is as clear as day. Man City said that bids had been made for Johnson. Are you just claiming we didn't make one of them? On what basis? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 If I hear/read someone use that "they made the profit they wanted to" line again I will shoot the perpetrator. Yes, Kinnear and Ashley et al are more or less to blame for them wanting out... but Given and Insomnia wanted to leave. We did not want to sell them. What's that got to do with making a profit again? "They" wanted to leave a club that is being run into the ground. You're moaning about them making a profit when you can't prove that's what they were/are after, even if it looks that way given the lack of funds coming out of us. I'm well aware of your second sentence, I even say as much in that post. I'm not disagreeing that Given/Insomnia left mainly because of the club's ineptitude, and nor am I disagreeing that the profit they've made on the likes of them and Milner hasn't been put to good use. I am disagreeing with this idea that they wanted to sell. I don't think we'd have spent much regardless of who left the club, and that is a sorry state of affairs. The whole squad was up for sale in the summer vis a vie Owen being touted and Barton telling us the club was trying to sell him. I don't believe for a minute they even made a bid for Johnson regardless of what they say. What happened to the two int class loanees? Gomis, the right back, the wow signing...Where are all these players JFK keeps spouting on about. I'm not moaning at all I'm just bemused by the level of horseshit we're being fed. It's not ineptitude either it is they way they roll, they are investing in the baseline and extracting organic profit from the business it is as clear as day. Man City said that bids had been made for Johnson. Are you just claiming we didn't make one of them? On what basis? I don't count calling them on the last day asking if he was available as a bid in all seriousness. If they had any compunction to buy the player he would either have been approached on the first day of the window or packaged in the Given deal. This is just smoke and mirrors and lip service. Actually he's still inj according to his agent and not even properly running yet, so what good would he have been? It's nonsense to pull the wool over peoples eyes. Sending a fax for M'Bia with 8m written on it.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 If I hear/read someone use that "they made the profit they wanted to" line again I will shoot the perpetrator. Yes, Kinnear and Ashley et al are more or less to blame for them wanting out... but Given and Insomnia wanted to leave. We did not want to sell them. What's that got to do with making a profit again? "They" wanted to leave a club that is being run into the ground. You're moaning about them making a profit when you can't prove that's what they were/are after, even if it looks that way given the lack of funds coming out of us. I'm well aware of your second sentence, I even say as much in that post. I'm not disagreeing that Given/Insomnia left mainly because of the club's ineptitude, and nor am I disagreeing that the profit they've made on the likes of them and Milner hasn't been put to good use. I am disagreeing with this idea that they wanted to sell. I don't think we'd have spent much regardless of who left the club, and that is a sorry state of affairs. The whole squad was up for sale in the summer vis a vie Owen being touted and Barton telling us the club was trying to sell him. I don't believe for a minute they even made a bid for Johnson regardless of what they say. What happened to the two int class loanees? Gomis, the right back, the wow signing...Where are all these players JFK keeps spouting on about. I'm not moaning at all I'm just bemused by the level of horseshit we're being fed. It's not ineptitude either it is they way they roll, they are investing in the baseline and extracting organic profit from the business it is as clear as day. Man City said that bids had been made for Johnson. Are you just claiming we didn't make one of them? On what basis? I don't count calling them on the last day asking if he was available as a bid in all seriousness. If they had any compunction to buy the player he would either have been approached on the first day of the window or packaged in the Given deal. This is just smoke and mirrors and lip service. Actually he's still inj according to his agent and not even properly running yet, so what good would he have been? It's nonsense to pull the wool over peoples eyes. I don't disagree. I'm just saying that there was certainly a bid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 If I hear/read someone use that "they made the profit they wanted to" line again I will shoot the perpetrator. Yes, Kinnear and Ashley et al are more or less to blame for them wanting out... but Given and Insomnia wanted to leave. We did not want to sell them. What's that got to do with making a profit again? "They" wanted to leave a club that is being run into the ground. You're moaning about them making a profit when you can't prove that's what they were/are after, even if it looks that way given the lack of funds coming out of us. I'm well aware of your second sentence, I even say as much in that post. I'm not disagreeing that Given/Insomnia left mainly because of the club's ineptitude, and nor am I disagreeing that the profit they've made on the likes of them and Milner hasn't been put to good use. I am disagreeing with this idea that they wanted to sell. I don't think we'd have spent much regardless of who left the club, and that is a sorry state of affairs. The whole squad was up for sale in the summer vis a vie Owen being touted and Barton telling us the club was trying to sell him. I don't believe for a minute they even made a bid for Johnson regardless of what they say. What happened to the two int class loanees? Gomis, the right back, the wow signing...Where are all these players JFK keeps spouting on about. I'm not moaning at all I'm just bemused by the level of horseshit we're being fed. It's not ineptitude either it is they way they roll, they are investing in the baseline and extracting organic profit from the business it is as clear as day. Man City said that bids had been made for Johnson. Are you just claiming we didn't make one of them? On what basis? I don't count calling them on the last day asking if he was available as a bid in all seriousness. If they had any compunction to buy the player he would either have been approached on the first day of the window or packaged in the Given deal. This is just smoke and mirrors and lip service. Actually he's still inj according to his agent and not even properly running yet, so what good would he have been? It's nonsense to pull the wool over peoples eyes. I don't disagree. I'm just saying that there was certainly a bid. Good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Milburnthedog Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I was there last night and came away a little disappointed that nothing was agreed other than t-shirts and a rally. The feeling in the room was one of frustration and the best thing to come from it was that the press are on our side completely. Without an agenda the meeting just went the way of those who wanted to express their anti - Ashley/ Lambias/ Wise opinions more than anything else. Still, I do hope the NUSC grow to such a size that the voice can't be ignored by the Club. I believe that these forums (and others) can play a big part in getting the message to the support and motivating troops / getting decisions made (perhaps via polls). I joined the group last night too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Fair enough. How should we move forward then? We as fans need to gain the trust of our owner as much as he needs to gain the trust of us. Trying to talk to him to take the club forward might be better than trying to tell him that we want him out. Getting rid of him doesn't solve our problems. Like it or not, whoever buys the club will probably need £250 million before even looking to invest in players, Ashley has already spent the £250 million. What we need is for him to turn the club around and stop making losses. Once that has been done then the club can look to spend on players again as long as he's not going to start taking his £100 million loan back. Personally, If I was him and in his position then I'd be looking to take my £100 million back ASAP. I'd think why should I try to help those ungrateful bastards when all they do is give me grief. That might change if he thinks he’s got a long term future at the club, whatever anybody thinks, he hasn’t bought the club to sicken us. That just doesn’t make any sense in the slightest and he didn’t need to make money when he bought the club, he had more money than he could reasonably expect to spend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Its easier for 1 man in a high profile position to talk to 52,000 (or however many were there last night) footballs fans than it is 52,000 to talk to 1 high profile man. Simple fact is Ashley needs to make the first move if there is to be any genuine and sensible dialog between the club and fans. Its just not easy for fans to gain access but Ashley has various forms of media with which to get the ball rolling. He must be aware that there is a set of fans trying to get something going. The longer he appears to ignore them, the worse this situation is going to become. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 not sure if this has already been posted but George Caulkin from the Times follows up his brilliant article from Tuesday with a excellent summing up of what went on at the NUSC meeting on Wednesday night. Passion, fury and ideas: minutes from NUSC's latest meeting - George Caulkin, The Times They came in their droves and nobody came alone; each person who stepped through the doors of the Tyneside Irish Centre carried with them love and commitment and decency. Some brought fury, some brought optimism and others desperation, some were moved to tears by the raw emotion. But nobody came alone. This was Newcastle, united. How do you collate the views of supporters who can fill a 52,000-seat stadium? How do you represent the generation of fans who have been priced out of football, or the exiles spread around the world? How do you speak for them and decide what your aims should be? Can it even be done? Should a club which has consistently taken its core support for granted be confronted or engaged? These were, and are, some of the difficult (and almost irreconcilable) questions facing the Newcastle United Supporters Club (NUSC), a body established in the wake of Kevin Keegan’s departure as manager this season and still in its formative stages. They were debated at a well-populated, articulate and spirited open meeting on Wednesday night. Here are some random observations. 1. Your club needs you. Grave concern was an obvious, overwhelming theme of the evening; concern that relegation is a real possibility, concern that Newcastle’s ownership has been more interested in asset-stripping than squad-building, concern that after too much grim football and too many broken promises, fellow supporters are on the brink of giving up and walking away. 2. Should I stay or should I go? How to channel that concern is a thorny problem. Boycott home matches? A divisive proposition impossible for most to contemplate – you support the shirt. Cancel season-ticket direct debits? A tactic which would hit Mike Ashley in the pocket, but would also mean sacrifice given that buying individual match tickets is more expensive. 3. Anger is an energy. Should the NUSC stand under a simple banner – Ashley out? Again, this is not a straightforward issue; not for everybody, anyway. On one hand, the evidence of incompetence is everywhere, from the £8 million profit made in the last transfer window, the league position, the baffling lack of communication, the botched appointment of a recruitment department. For some, Ashley, Derek Llambias and Dennis Wise are symbols of a club which is self-destructing; reason enough to protest, demand their removal and call for change. And yet Ashley has already tried and failed to sell the club and that presents a dilemma. There are those who argue that attempting dialogue is the only sensible way forward. Finding consensus here is probably NUSC’s greatest challenge. 4. Where’s Waldo? Needless to say, Ashley did not buy a round of drinks at the Irish Centre; he seems to have stopped doing that. Wise wasn’t there. Neither was Llambias, although the hitherto invisible managing director will be answering questions from readers of two local newspapers on Friday. Some suggestions were made. Most of them were even printable. On a related subject, here’s Joe Kinnear on Thursday morning. “The guys at the top know they need to communicate better, which is why they are speaking to the two local papers. I think they will sit down with supporters’ groups and fans and the people of Newcastle at the end of the season – I know they want to do that.” So why not now, when the loyalty of their supporters is needed more than ever? 5. NUSC 4 NUFC. The people running the supporters club are smart and enthusiastic, motivated by passion not ego. They have a committee, a treasurer, an official website (www.newcastle-united-supporters-club.co.uk) and many have lost money for a cause they believe in. It has taken time. The contributions of influential, independent voices such as true faith, The Mag and nufc.com have been vital. 6. Lights, camera, action. So what happens next? For one thing, visibility is required. The NUSC intends to remind people that it exists, that they have a collective voice. They will step up their media campaign. If invited, they will take their message into local communities, dispatching representatives to pubs and clubs to canvas support, raise awareness and ask for guidance. On February 22, prior to the home game against Everton, there will be a rally (note the choice of word – rally) at the Monument in Newcastle’s city centre. A recommendation put forward at the meeting was that t-shirts promoting the NUSC could be distributed outside St James’ Park, issuing a statement to the Newcastle hierarchy. Look at us; you can’t ignore this. 7. There is power in a union. Why do we love football? Is it the escapism, the drama, the glitz and the talent? Or is it what Sir Bobby Robson has described as “the noise, the passion, the feeling of belonging, the pride in your city?” Perhaps some of those bonds are being stretched for Newcastle supporters, but there is an alternative to helplessness. It is fragile and these are early days, but it is there. As Neil Mitchell, one of NUSC’s committee members, put it, “We’re tired of the divisions within the fanbase. It feels like divide and rule and these divisions are easily exploited by the club. There’s only one way to bring everyone together and that’s through having a shared voice. We want to find common ground, and move forward. If the Supporters’ Club can achieve that, then brilliant.” There are common misconceptions about all supporters, but Newcastle’s have suffered from repeated, lazy stereotyping, particularly this season. In part, the club are to the blame for that – during Ashley’s tenure they have never attempted to promote a positive image of themselves, to fill the vacuum. But those stereotypes were never in evidence at the Irish Centre. Newcastle, united. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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