Incognito Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Lampard scored a perfectly legitimate peach in the World Cup against Germany to be fair. Scored in CL final, CL semi finals and a great goal to win the FA cup final too. Both scored crucial goals when it mattered. The goal that wasn't against Germany and the CL final goal weren't crucial goals. One wasn't even a goal and the other game they lost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Lampard scored a perfectly legitimate peach in the World Cup against Germany to be fair. Scored in CL final, CL semi finals and a great goal to win the FA cup final too. Both scored crucial goals when it mattered. The goal that wasn't against Germany and the CL final goal weren't crucial goals. One wasn't even a goal and the other game they lost. This is exactly why it's pointless having any debate with you like. You're just ridiculously stubborn when you've made up your mind about something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Lampard scored a perfectly legitimate peach in the World Cup against Germany to be fair. Scored in CL final, CL semi finals and a great goal to win the FA cup final too. Both scored crucial goals when it mattered. The goal that wasn't against Germany and the CL final goal weren't crucial goals. One wasn't even a goal and the other game they lost. This is exactly why it's pointless having any debate with you like. You're just ridiculously stubborn when you've made up your mind about something. So you are saying they are crucial goals. One that wasn't a goal and the other that made no difference whatsoever where the trophy ended up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Surely at the time the goal was scored it would have been seen as crucial given the context of the game? If you score the first goal in a cup final but go on to lose the game the goal you scored was still crucial at that time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Lampard scored a perfectly legitimate peach in the World Cup against Germany to be fair. Scored in CL final, CL semi finals and a great goal to win the FA cup final too. Both scored crucial goals when it mattered. The goal that wasn't against Germany and the CL final goal weren't crucial goals. One wasn't even a goal and the other game they lost. This is exactly why it's pointless having any debate with you like. You're just ridiculously stubborn when you've made up your mind about something. So you are saying they are crucial goals. One that wasn't a goal and the other that made no difference whatsoever where the trophy ended up? They're goals at the highest level. They're only crucial with hindsight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Exactly - examining how crucial a goal is and then adding weight to it retrospectively is a bit pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I can never decide whether Billy's love of Gerrard contributes to his dislike of Lampard or vice versa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I think what Arrigo Sacchi said about Gerrard explains the difference between him and Scholes. “When I was director of football at Real Madrid I had to evaluate the players coming through the youth ranks. We had some who were very good footballers. They had technique, they had athleticism, they had drive they were hungry. But they lacked what I call knowing-how-to-play-football. They lacked decision making. They lacked positioning. They didn’t have the subtle sensitivity of football: how a player should move within the collective. And for many I wasn’t sure they were going to learn. You see, strength, passion, technique, athleticism, all of these are very important. But they are a means to an end, not an end in itself. They help you reach your goal, which is putting your talent at the service of the team and, by doing this, making both of you and the team greater. In situations like that, I just have to say, Gerrard is a great footballer, but perhaps not a great player.” I don't even bother comparing Gerrard to Scholes, and I think talking about who scored what goals isn't that helpful when it comes to midfielders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Lampard limited? Bloody hell! He was much more than a midfield goalscorer. That's like saying Shearer was just a goalscorer man! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I can never decide whether Billy's love of Gerrard contributes to his dislike of Lampard or vice versa. I don't love Gerrard. He'd be quite low down if I had to pick a list of the best English players I've seen. Probably scrape a top twenty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Lampard limited? Bloody hell! He was much more than a midfield goalscorer. That's like saying Shearer was just a goalscorer man! People forget just how good he was from 2004-2010ish. Great player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Scholes>>>>>>Gerrard>>>Lampard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Just like that, yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I'd agree with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Scholes>>>>>>Gerrard=Lampard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Mullins >>>>>>>>>>>> Scholes € Gerrard # Lampard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I note Lampard has yet to make a decision on his International future. Hodgson should man up and make it for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 He's playing in the barren wasteland that is MLS. His England days are over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 He's playing in the barren wasteland that is MLS. His England days are over. Depends where he plays before the next MLS season starts, but I can see him playing a few more games for England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 He's playing in the barren wasteland that is MLS. His England days are over. Depends where he plays before the next MLS season starts, but I can see him playing a few more games for England. Think he's meant to join David Villa at Melbourne City until January Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 He's playing in the barren wasteland that is MLS. His England days are over. Depends where he plays before the next MLS season starts, but I can see him playing a few more games for England. Think he's meant to join David Villa at Melbourne City until January I hope he doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 He's playing in the barren wasteland that is MLS. His England days are over. Depends where he plays before the next MLS season starts, but I can see him playing a few more games for England. What. At. Bowls? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 He's playing in the barren wasteland that is MLS. His England days are over. Depends where he plays before the next MLS season starts, but I can see him playing a few more games for England. But why would he play more games for England? They'll surely qualify for the euros easily Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 It must hurt you, that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 He's playing in the barren wasteland that is MLS. His England days are over. Depends where he plays before the next MLS season starts, but I can see him playing a few more games for England. What. At. Bowls? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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