Sifu Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Where did you get that from? Journo's on twitter. Ah right. Well, if that is indeed the lineup, then I assume England will be lining up like this: Hart Richards Smalling Cahill Baines Parker Barry Gerrard Young Johnson Welbeck Good to see Richards starting btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Where did you get that from? Journo's on twitter. Ah right. Well, if that is indeed the lineup, then I assume England will be lining up like this: Hart Richards Smalling Cahill Baines Parker Barry Gerrard Young Johnson Welbeck Good to see Richards starting btw. Decent line-up except Barry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Who would people have Parker back ahead of like? He plays the same role as Tiote and is inferior to him. I'm a fan of 4231 myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Sigh. It's a clear sign of regression in our national team that Scott Parker is even in the side let alone being made Captain. Why? He's a central player (in that he's a key player) for the 3rd best side in the division. I've never got the criticism of Parker. I think its because he doesn't score goals, smack in free-kicks or beat his man. He's a deep lying defensive midfielder stroke anchorman strok link up player. Nothing more. He rarely gives the ball away, offers a defensive screen to his defenders and links play up with his midfield and attack. Every time I see him for Spurs he has often been their best player in terms of consistency. I also thought he was fantastic in his first season here and was disappointed when we got rid. He's a good lad as well so I'm happy for him. You just know he'll be over the fucking moon at being captain where as you get the impression Gerrard or someone else would be all "meh, I've played in a CL final". England have probably needed a player like Parker for a few years now. Get Wilshire in the side and Cleverley and we'd finally have a technical midfield for once rather the usual of Stevie G, Lamps etc. Those 3 in particular would keep possession very well. How many of the top international sides would he get into? Answer it correctly, and you'll then understand my point. A fit and well Gerrard at least has the semblance of World class, and so to a lesser extent did Lampard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Who would people have Parker back ahead of like? He plays the same role as Tiote and is inferior to him. I'm a fan of 4231 myself. What about Ba and Cisse? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Sigh. It's a clear sign of regression in our national team that Scott Parker is even in the side let alone being made Captain. I'm not so sure, you can't always be planning for the future. If Scott Parker helps us progress in Euro 2012, which he might do, I'm all for it. As well as involving younger players obviously. Who mentioned planning for the future? I've rarely seen an England side as poor as the one now, and the fact that Scott Parker is the Captain of it,speaks volumes for me..it reminds me of when Graham Taylor was manager when we had the likes of Carlton Palmer and Geoff Thomas being regulars in the National side, and we wondered why we didn't perform well? I only wish the FA would give the manager's job to a younger man, don't know who, with a remit of general improvement until 2016/2018 and use the next 4 years doing exactly that...planning. What can any manager do unless we bring through better players? Spain and Germany aren't the best in the world because of their managers but because of the youth setups they implemented years ago. Until we sort ours out we'll constantly play the least technical and tactical football imaginable whoever the manager is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shaun Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Just been reminded of this advert: That advert is misleading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Is Tiote better than Parker? Age is on Tiote's side, but as it stands Parker edges it IMO. I realise this is blasphemy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Is Tiote better than Parker? Age is on Tiote's side, but as it stands Parker edges it IMO. I realise this is blasphemy. It's not blasphemy at all, although I am interested to why you think he is better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Sigh. It's a clear sign of regression in our national team that Scott Parker is even in the side let alone being made Captain. I'm not so sure, you can't always be planning for the future. If Scott Parker helps us progress in Euro 2012, which he might do, I'm all for it. As well as involving younger players obviously. Who mentioned planning for the future? I've rarely seen an England side as poor as the one now, and the fact that Scott Parker is the Captain of it,speaks volumes for me..it reminds me of when Graham Taylor was manager when we had the likes of Carlton Palmer and Geoff Thomas being regulars in the National side, and we wondered why we didn't perform well? I only wish the FA would give the manager's job to a younger man, don't know who, with a remit of general improvement until 2016/2018 and use the next 4 years doing exactly that...planning. Hyperbole. Parker is nothing like a Geoff Thomas type of selection. We actually have a very good core group of players and I like the fact Parker and even the mackem lad, are getting a chance. That's where we always go wrong, we pick the country's top players for their position/club and put them all onto the same pitch and expect them to be as good as they are for their clubs while other players get overlooked, regardless of how they perform because they don't play like Gerrard or for Man Utd or whatever. We have always underused our players. Germany, Brazil, Spain, the Dutch, even the French, they always have a high turnover of players because in international football its more about getting a team to fit the team rather than the team to fit the players as we always look for. Oooh, Lampard scored 20 goals for Chelsea.... he has to start. Oooh, Gerrard scored 20 goals for Liverpool.... he has to start. How many did Scholes score? Pick him to. The result? A shit midfield. Welbeck and the mackem lad up front may not be Rooney and Shearer but they will give us pace, movement and desire. People always derided the fact Crouch got games, stating how bad off we are if he starts, yet his goals record is better than Rooney, the world class player. We need more Crouch's actually. Me, my England team would be: ---------------------Hart ----------Walker Smalling Jones Cole ------------------Parker ----------Wilshier------Cleverley Sturridge Rooney Oxlaide Chamberlain An English side, full of pace, power, youth and technial ability, and very ballanced. I think in Parker, Cleverley and Wilshire, we might not have much height in there but we have good technical ability, good passing ability, good movement, quick feet and in Parker, excellent defensive screening. Its a very mobile trio as well. Sturridge wide offers a goal threat cutting in as well as pace and trickery down the flank, he can also take up the central spot of Rooney if he drops deep or comes wide himself. Oxlaide is an interesting play, he's very raw but he's direct, skilful, quick and seems confident, always wanting to run at people. With England though, I always feel its all down to the manager. We need a manager who will pick a balanced side, who favours the skills and characteristics of our players and someone who will send a side out with the freedom to express themselves, to play to their strengths. Redknapp is that man for me. Spurs play wonderful football like a continental side but with English characteristics. We have some fine players lets not forget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Tiote can pass the ball forward which automatically makes him better than Parker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Who would people have Parker back ahead of like? He plays the same role as Tiote and is inferior to him. I'm a fan of 4231 myself. What about Ba and Cisse? Cisse pushed forward on the right of the 3. Its a versatile formation really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Sigh. It's a clear sign of regression in our national team that Scott Parker is even in the side let alone being made Captain. I'm not so sure, you can't always be planning for the future. If Scott Parker helps us progress in Euro 2012, which he might do, I'm all for it. As well as involving younger players obviously. Who mentioned planning for the future? I've rarely seen an England side as poor as the one now, and the fact that Scott Parker is the Captain of it,speaks volumes for me..it reminds me of when Graham Taylor was manager when we had the likes of Carlton Palmer and Geoff Thomas being regulars in the National side, and we wondered why we didn't perform well? I only wish the FA would give the manager's job to a younger man, don't know who, with a remit of general improvement until 2016/2018 and use the next 4 years doing exactly that...planning. What can any manager do unless we bring through better players? Spain and Germany aren't the best in the world because of their managers but because of the youth setups they implemented years ago. Until we sort ours out we'll constantly play the least technical and tactical football imaginable whoever the manager is. Which all, according to your post, would mean that with England being so poor at the moment, which you agree with with your last sentence, we haven't done much in the planning field since the so called "golden generation" came and flattered to deceive. Except we have had some decent U21 sides in the past 5 years. So I summise the managerial position is an important one. And I think to give it to Harry Redknapp wouldn't bode well for the future, and some of that is because of his age, I have to say. Will he be as keen to produce youngsters into the squad/side as readily as a younger guy would? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Is Tiote better than Parker? Age is on Tiote's side, but as it stands Parker edges it IMO. I realise this is blasphemy. It's not blasphemy at all, although I am interested to why you think he is better. It's a close call but Parker is less likely to lose possession IMO. Tiote still, on occasion, has his moments where he holds onto the ball for too long and loses it. Parker gets it and gives it away asap. Pretty much all that's needed in that position. Down to experience s'pose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Brooking has been on about sorting out our youth development for years, yet I'm yet to see any evidence of it happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Sigh. It's a clear sign of regression in our national team that Scott Parker is even in the side let alone being made Captain. Why? He's a central player (in that he's a key player) for the 3rd best side in the division. I've never got the criticism of Parker. I think its because he doesn't score goals, smack in free-kicks or beat his man. He's a deep lying defensive midfielder stroke anchorman strok link up player. Nothing more. He rarely gives the ball away, offers a defensive screen to his defenders and links play up with his midfield and attack. Every time I see him for Spurs he has often been their best player in terms of consistency. I also thought he was fantastic in his first season here and was disappointed when we got rid. He's a good lad as well so I'm happy for him. You just know he'll be over the f***ing moon at being captain where as you get the impression Gerrard or someone else would be all "meh, I've played in a CL final". England have probably needed a player like Parker for a few years now. Get Wilshire in the side and Cleverley and we'd finally have a technical midfield for once rather the usual of Stevie G, Lamps etc. Those 3 in particular would keep possession very well. How many of the top international sides would he get into? Answer it correctly, and you'll then understand my point. A fit and well Gerrard at least has the semblance of World class, and so to a lesser extent did Lampard. Gerrard is a world-class club player, but a poor international player because technically, he's a limited player. How many international sides would Cabaye get into? How about err, France? My point, its not about other sides its about our own and Scott Parker is one of the best performing midfielders this season for one of the best sides and just so happens to be very good at certain things like breaking up play, finding a team-mate with the ball, and protecting the back four. He's a no brainer basically. By the way, Lampard is and always has been the better footballer than Gerrard. He has that international technique that Gerrard lacks, and maybe if he had someone like Parker behind him in an England shirt, his own England carreer, as decent as it has been, might have been even better. Watch Gerrard try and run with the ball, watch how long his strides are to catch up with it, he gets away with it because he is a powerful, quick and very althetic runner. If he had zero pace and power in his running though, that ball would run off away from him. He's a heavy footed player on the ball. He can hit a great pass from a standing point and he has tremendous shooting power and can drive forward really well, but ask him to play short, intricate passing, at pace and with movement and he cant. Lampard could. Parker can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Sigh. It's a clear sign of regression in our national team that Scott Parker is even in the side let alone being made Captain. Why? He's a central player (in that he's a key player) for the 3rd best side in the division. I've never got the criticism of Parker. I think its because he doesn't score goals, smack in free-kicks or beat his man. He's a deep lying defensive midfielder stroke anchorman strok link up player. Nothing more. He rarely gives the ball away, offers a defensive screen to his defenders and links play up with his midfield and attack. Every time I see him for Spurs he has often been their best player in terms of consistency. I also thought he was fantastic in his first season here and was disappointed when we got rid. He's a good lad as well so I'm happy for him. You just know he'll be over the f***ing moon at being captain where as you get the impression Gerrard or someone else would be all "meh, I've played in a CL final". England have probably needed a player like Parker for a few years now. Get Wilshire in the side and Cleverley and we'd finally have a technical midfield for once rather the usual of Stevie G, Lamps etc. Those 3 in particular would keep possession very well. How many of the top international sides would he get into? Answer it correctly, and you'll then understand my point. A fit and well Gerrard at least has the semblance of World class, and so to a lesser extent did Lampard. Gerrard is a world-class club player, but a poor international player because technically, he's a limited player. How many international sides would Cabaye get into? How about err, France? My point, its not about other sides its about our own and Scott Parker is one of the best performing midfielders this season for one of the best sides and just so happens to be very good at certain things like breaking up play, finding a team-mate with the ball, and protecting the back four. He's a no brainer basically. By the way, Lampard is and always has been the better footballer than Gerrard. He has that international technique that Gerrard lacks, and maybe if he had someone like Parker behind him in an England shirt, his own England carreer, as decent as it has been, might have been even better. Watch Gerrard try and run with the ball, watch how long his strides are to catch up with it, he gets away with it because he is a powerful, quick and very althetic runner. If he had zero pace and power in his running though, that ball would run off away from him. He's a heavy footed player on the ball. He can hit a great pass from a standing point and he has tremendous shooting power and can drive forward really well, but ask him to play short, intricate passing, at pace and with movement and he cant. Lampard could. Parker can. Totally disagree. And Cabaye would get into the English side if he was English. Would Parker get into the French side if he was French? Mais non. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Brooking has been on about sorting out our youth development for years, yet I'm yet to see any evidence of it happening. It needs to start at grassroots level. The fact 7 year old kids are shouted at to get rid of the ball or to kick it long to a striker doesn't help. And thats just the mams and dads. Neither does the fact that points and winning means more than having fun and develpment in youth football. That and the fucking barbaric trial system and letting go of kids. My mate's son has been with a club for 6 years since he was 7 and last season they said sorry, he'll not get a game any longer for us. Now this very kid, footy daft, doesn't even play anymore and who can blame him, all his mates were at this club, he'd been there for six years and did very well for them, but discarded. Its a disgrace and should be illegal. Watch any grassroots game at any level in this country from kids to adult and its brutal. Go to another country and watch a game at grassroots level from kids to adult and the differences are alarming. Its all about skills, technique, keeping the ball etc. Here its all about kicking it forwards to the man up top, its all about the defenders getting rid of it. Its all about getting stuck in, tackling, running and being brave and being strong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Brooking has been on about sorting out our youth development for years, yet I'm yet to see any evidence of it happening. It needs to start at grassroots level. The fact 7 year old kids are shouted at to get rid of the ball or to kick it long to a striker doesn't help. And thats just the mams and dads. Neither does the fact that points and winning means more than having fun and develpment in youth football. That and the fucking barbaric trial system and letting go of kids. My mate's son has been with a club for 6 years since he was 7 and last season they said sorry, he'll not get a game any longer for us. Now this very kid, footy daft, doesn't even play anymore and who can blame him, all his mates were at this club, he'd been there for six years and did very well for them, but discarded. Its a disgrace and should be illegal. Watch any grassroots game at any level in this country from kids to adult and its brutal. Go to another country and watch a game at grassroots level from kids to adult and the differences are alarming. Its all about skills, technique, keeping the ball etc. Here its all about kicking it forwards to the man up top, its all about the defenders getting rid of it. Its all about getting stuck in, tackling, running and being brave and being strong. And you're shouting accolades for Scott Parker who's style fits exactly what you're criticising there??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Sigh. It's a clear sign of regression in our national team that Scott Parker is even in the side let alone being made Captain. Why? He's a central player (in that he's a key player) for the 3rd best side in the division. I've never got the criticism of Parker. I think its because he doesn't score goals, smack in free-kicks or beat his man. He's a deep lying defensive midfielder stroke anchorman strok link up player. Nothing more. He rarely gives the ball away, offers a defensive screen to his defenders and links play up with his midfield and attack. Every time I see him for Spurs he has often been their best player in terms of consistency. I also thought he was fantastic in his first season here and was disappointed when we got rid. He's a good lad as well so I'm happy for him. You just know he'll be over the f***ing moon at being captain where as you get the impression Gerrard or someone else would be all "meh, I've played in a CL final". England have probably needed a player like Parker for a few years now. Get Wilshire in the side and Cleverley and we'd finally have a technical midfield for once rather the usual of Stevie G, Lamps etc. Those 3 in particular would keep possession very well. How many of the top international sides would he get into? Answer it correctly, and you'll then understand my point. A fit and well Gerrard at least has the semblance of World class, and so to a lesser extent did Lampard. Gerrard is a world-class club player, but a poor international player because technically, he's a limited player. How many international sides would Cabaye get into? How about err, France? My point, its not about other sides its about our own and Scott Parker is one of the best performing midfielders this season for one of the best sides and just so happens to be very good at certain things like breaking up play, finding a team-mate with the ball, and protecting the back four. He's a no brainer basically. By the way, Lampard is and always has been the better footballer than Gerrard. He has that international technique that Gerrard lacks, and maybe if he had someone like Parker behind him in an England shirt, his own England carreer, as decent as it has been, might have been even better. Watch Gerrard try and run with the ball, watch how long his strides are to catch up with it, he gets away with it because he is a powerful, quick and very althetic runner. If he had zero pace and power in his running though, that ball would run off away from him. He's a heavy footed player on the ball. He can hit a great pass from a standing point and he has tremendous shooting power and can drive forward really well, but ask him to play short, intricate passing, at pace and with movement and he cant. Lampard could. Parker can. Totally disagree. And Cabaye would get into the English side if he was English. Would Parker get into the French side if he was French? Mais non. Forget about other sides man. Its about what's best for England and who is best for England. If Parker, one of the best performing players for one of the best performing sides with critical attributes in a defensive and technical perspective, cannot get a game for England, then no-one can. Who do you think we are? What kind of team do you think we are? We are not Spain and never will be. We are England, a country with no real world-class players, but a country with many top-class players, who if selected right and sent out right, can compete. Your would X player get into X side is a daft point anyway. Would Alou Diarra get into the English side? Would Kuyt? Would Luiz? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Brooking has been on about sorting out our youth development for years, yet I'm yet to see any evidence of it happening. It needs to start at grassroots level. The fact 7 year old kids are shouted at to get rid of the ball or to kick it long to a striker doesn't help. And thats just the mams and dads. Neither does the fact that points and winning means more than having fun and develpment in youth football. That and the f***ing barbaric trial system and letting go of kids. My mate's son has been with a club for 6 years since he was 7 and last season they said sorry, he'll not get a game any longer for us. Now this very kid, footy daft, doesn't even play anymore and who can blame him, all his mates were at this club, he'd been there for six years and did very well for them, but discarded. Its a disgrace and should be illegal. Watch any grassroots game at any level in this country from kids to adult and its brutal. Go to another country and watch a game at grassroots level from kids to adult and the differences are alarming. Its all about skills, technique, keeping the ball etc. Here its all about kicking it forwards to the man up top, its all about the defenders getting rid of it. Its all about getting stuck in, tackling, running and being brave and being strong. And you're shouting accolades for Scott Parker who's style fits exactly what you're criticising there??? Scott Parker has decent technical ability, he can find a team-mate with a pass, he's an intelligent footballer. These attributes are missing in grassroots football in the main. Its not suprising he runs none stop, will put his body on the line and is comitted, given these are key attributes in grassroots football. Me, I'd like to marry the two. The result? Scott Parker. A very very good footballer. However, we get more Cattermoles that Parker's thanks to our glorious grassroots system. One of the biggest shifts needs to be in mindset, especially from fans because fans are the parents and the coaches of grassroots. We need to want to see players like Wilshiere in our sides rather than some brick shithouse or tackler. The idea should be to keep the ball so you don't have to put a tackle in. We have the idea that we need to put a tackle in to win the ball. That's the mentality in this country at many levels, especially on the stands and in grassroots football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Sigh. It's a clear sign of regression in our national team that Scott Parker is even in the side let alone being made Captain. Why? He's a central player (in that he's a key player) for the 3rd best side in the division. I've never got the criticism of Parker. I think its because he doesn't score goals, smack in free-kicks or beat his man. He's a deep lying defensive midfielder stroke anchorman strok link up player. Nothing more. He rarely gives the ball away, offers a defensive screen to his defenders and links play up with his midfield and attack. Every time I see him for Spurs he has often been their best player in terms of consistency. I also thought he was fantastic in his first season here and was disappointed when we got rid. He's a good lad as well so I'm happy for him. You just know he'll be over the f***ing moon at being captain where as you get the impression Gerrard or someone else would be all "meh, I've played in a CL final". England have probably needed a player like Parker for a few years now. Get Wilshire in the side and Cleverley and we'd finally have a technical midfield for once rather the usual of Stevie G, Lamps etc. Those 3 in particular would keep possession very well. How many of the top international sides would he get into? Answer it correctly, and you'll then understand my point. A fit and well Gerrard at least has the semblance of World class, and so to a lesser extent did Lampard. Gerrard is a world-class club player, but a poor international player because technically, he's a limited player. How many international sides would Cabaye get into? How about err, France? My point, its not about other sides its about our own and Scott Parker is one of the best performing midfielders this season for one of the best sides and just so happens to be very good at certain things like breaking up play, finding a team-mate with the ball, and protecting the back four. He's a no brainer basically. By the way, Lampard is and always has been the better footballer than Gerrard. He has that international technique that Gerrard lacks, and maybe if he had someone like Parker behind him in an England shirt, his own England carreer, as decent as it has been, might have been even better. Watch Gerrard try and run with the ball, watch how long his strides are to catch up with it, he gets away with it because he is a powerful, quick and very althetic runner. If he had zero pace and power in his running though, that ball would run off away from him. He's a heavy footed player on the ball. He can hit a great pass from a standing point and he has tremendous shooting power and can drive forward really well, but ask him to play short, intricate passing, at pace and with movement and he cant. Lampard could. Parker can. Totally disagree. And Cabaye would get into the English side if he was English. Would Parker get into the French side if he was French? Mais non. Forget about other sides man. Its about what's best for England and who is best for England. If Parker, one of the best performing players for one of the best performing sides with critical attributes in a defensive and technical perspective, cannot get a game for England, then no-one can. Who do you think we are? What kind of team do you think we are? We are not Spain and never will be. We are England, a country with no real world-class players, but a country with many top-class players, who if selected right and sent out right, can compete. Your would X player get into X side is a daft point anyway. Would Alou Diarra get into the English side? Would Kuyt? Would Luiz? So my original point about how England have regressed you are now agreeing with. I've seen us have world class players, and indeed world class sides. Some have been mismanaged by the manager at the time. Even in 1990 and 1986 we went on to fairly successful tournaments in spite of the manager *tinhat on*, not because of him. Scott Parker , irrespective of him playing for the side that's 3rd in the league, should not be captain of the side.He probably wouldn't be playing if Wilshere was fit. Scott Parker is today's Ray Wilkins. And Daiarra and Kuyt would probably get into the England side. Luiz shouldn't get into any top side as a defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Brooking has been on about sorting out our youth development for years, yet I'm yet to see any evidence of it happening. It needs to start at grassroots level. The fact 7 year old kids are shouted at to get rid of the ball or to kick it long to a striker doesn't help. And thats just the mams and dads. Neither does the fact that points and winning means more than having fun and develpment in youth football. That and the f***ing barbaric trial system and letting go of kids. My mate's son has been with a club for 6 years since he was 7 and last season they said sorry, he'll not get a game any longer for us. Now this very kid, footy daft, doesn't even play anymore and who can blame him, all his mates were at this club, he'd been there for six years and did very well for them, but discarded. Its a disgrace and should be illegal. Watch any grassroots game at any level in this country from kids to adult and its brutal. Go to another country and watch a game at grassroots level from kids to adult and the differences are alarming. Its all about skills, technique, keeping the ball etc. Here its all about kicking it forwards to the man up top, its all about the defenders getting rid of it. Its all about getting stuck in, tackling, running and being brave and being strong. And you're shouting accolades for Scott Parker who's style fits exactly what you're criticising there??? Scott Parker has decent technical ability, he can find a team-mate with a pass, he's an intelligent footballer. These attributes are missing in grassroots football in the main. Its not suprising he runs none stop, will put his body on the line and is comitted, given these are key attributes in grassroots football. Me, I'd like to marry the two. The result? Scott Parker. A very very good footballer. However, we get more Cattermoles that Parker's thanks to our glorious grassroots system. One of the biggest shifts needs to be in mindset, especially from fans because fans are the parents and the coaches of grassroots. We need to want to see players like Wilshiere in our sides rather than some brick shithouse or tackler. The idea should be to keep the ball so you don't have to put a tackle in. We have the idea that we need to put a tackle in to win the ball. That's the mentality in this country at many levels, especially on the stands and in grassroots football. He only passes sideways or backwards .And also on occasion tackles like Cattermole. You're defeating your own argument, man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Brooking has been on about sorting out our youth development for years, yet I'm yet to see any evidence of it happening. It needs to start at grassroots level. The fact 7 year old kids are shouted at to get rid of the ball or to kick it long to a striker doesn't help. And thats just the mams and dads. Neither does the fact that points and winning means more than having fun and develpment in youth football. That and the f***ing barbaric trial system and letting go of kids. My mate's son has been with a club for 6 years since he was 7 and last season they said sorry, he'll not get a game any longer for us. Now this very kid, footy daft, doesn't even play anymore and who can blame him, all his mates were at this club, he'd been there for six years and did very well for them, but discarded. Its a disgrace and should be illegal. Watch any grassroots game at any level in this country from kids to adult and its brutal. Go to another country and watch a game at grassroots level from kids to adult and the differences are alarming. Its all about skills, technique, keeping the ball etc. Here its all about kicking it forwards to the man up top, its all about the defenders getting rid of it. Its all about getting stuck in, tackling, running and being brave and being strong. And you're shouting accolades for Scott Parker who's style fits exactly what you're criticising there??? Scott Parker has decent technical ability, he can find a team-mate with a pass, he's an intelligent footballer. These attributes are missing in grassroots football in the main. Its not suprising he runs none stop, will put his body on the line and is comitted, given these are key attributes in grassroots football. Me, I'd like to marry the two. The result? Scott Parker. A very very good footballer. However, we get more Cattermoles that Parker's thanks to our glorious grassroots system. One of the biggest shifts needs to be in mindset, especially from fans because fans are the parents and the coaches of grassroots. We need to want to see players like Wilshiere in our sides rather than some brick shithouse or tackler. The idea should be to keep the ball so you don't have to put a tackle in. We have the idea that we need to put a tackle in to win the ball. That's the mentality in this country at many levels, especially on the stands and in grassroots football. He only passes sideways or backwards .And also on occasion tackles like Cattermole. You're defeating your own argument, man What utter, utter nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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