Mr. Snrub Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 Messi Iniesta Xavi Eto'o Kaka Ronaldo Ribery Torres Villa Zlatan Gerrard Essien They are the only players I would consider who are genuine world class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 Everyones got their own perception of World Class talent, so this thread will go on forever if people have the stamina. I think the thing holding Rooney back from being truely World Class is his sulking demeanor and rage fits, but then, some people will say that's what makes him a World Class Player. The difference for me, between what makes Messi a World Class player, and Ronaldo just a great player, is that Messi looks like he loves playing football, while Ronaldo cries and moans about everything... that and Messi is actually a World Class player. does it have to be currently playing? Rooney,..nowhere near, he only does a few good things in a whole season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 what is world class ? if it is a player who would get into a worlds best team then what if there is a dearth of qulaity in a certain position (imo all defensive positions at the moment). i may be raising the bar here but i'll class "world class" as those who wouldn't be out of place with the best. if messi continues with his form he will be,ronaldo has the talent and arshavin will be very interesting to watch now he is on a bigger stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 what is world class ? if it is a player who would get into a worlds best team then what if there is a dearth of qulaity in a certain position (imo all defensive positions at the moment). i may be raising the bar here but i'll class "world class" as those who wouldn't be out of place with the best. if messi continues with his form he will be,ronaldo has the talent and arshavin will be very interesting to watch now he is on a bigger stage. worlds best team? or maybe players who would stand out at say,..world cup level? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 Zlatan Is he bollocks. If he's included Mario Gomez should be in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 I was going on the context of the initial list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 Zlatan Is he bollocks. If he's included Mario Gomez should be in. Has Mario Gomez dominated Serie A for the past 3 years aswell? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 I guess World Class would be a player who can play in anyside in the world as a first team player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 Zlatan isn't world class ffs, wake up people? NEVER perform in big games, only scores against small teams etc. Zlatan Is he bollocks. If he's included Mario Gomez should be in. Has Mario Gomez dominated Serie A for the past 3 years aswell? He'd dominated the Bundesliga which is about the same level, He's got a big transfer fee, he's pish everywhere else.....they could be twins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 This thread is getting daft now. Rooney: Not world class despite being brilliant in arguably the toughest league in europe Juninho: World class because he's a class playmaker......in fucking France. Carew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesPaul Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 This thread is getting daft now. Rooney: Not world class despite being brilliant in arguably the toughest league in europe Juninho: World class because he's a class playmaker......in f***ing France. Carew. Neither are world class Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 This thread is getting daft now. Rooney: Not world class despite being brilliant in arguably the toughest league in europe Juninho: World class because he's a class playmaker......in f***ing France. Carew. Although Juninho was mearly a suggestion he has been playing to a consistantly high class for a number of years in the Champions League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 'World class' is a bollocks term when you consider that in 90% of international matches the opposition is fucking terrible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 Injury free Carew would become the best strike in the PL and this i am deadly serious about. Heskey does Carew better than Carew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 Everyones got their own perception of World Class talent, so this thread will go on forever if people have the stamina. I think the thing holding Rooney back from being truely World Class is his sulking demeanor and rage fits, but then, some people will say that's what makes him a World Class Player. The difference for me, between what makes Messi a World Class player, and Ronaldo just a great player, is that Messi looks like he loves playing football, while Ronaldo cries and moans about everything... that and Messi is actually a World Class player. does it have to be currently playing? Rooney,..nowhere near, he only does a few good things in a whole season. On another forum we did an all time greatest footballer draft where we all picked one player a round to be in our team, that was pretty good, not sure if I have my team lying around anymore. Be interesting, if people could be bothered, to compare like for like players from each generation and see who was/is the best. Like AM Rui Costa v Gerrard I know who I'd have... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 I think this thread has just proven how overused the term world class is nowadays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 I think this thread has just proven how overused the term world class is nowadays. Or how many really good players there are these days? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 I think this thread has just proven how overused the term world class is nowadays. Or how many really good players there are these days? i'd agree with the former comment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 I think this thread has just proven how overused the term world class is nowadays. Or how many really good players there are these days? Major difference between good and world class though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 I think this thread has just proven how overused the term world class is nowadays. Or how many really good players there are these days? i'd agree with the former comment Yeah I don't think there's as many talented players as there were back in the 90s, but then that could be youhtful eyes and nostalgia playing tricks on me. Certainly more superstars then there was 10 years ago, but that's due to media hype and youtube. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 I think this thread has just proven how overused the term world class is nowadays. Or how many really good players there are these days? i'd agree with the former comment Yeah I don't think there's as many talented players as there were back in the 90s, but then that could be youhtful eyes and nostalgia playing tricks on me. Certainly more superstars then there was 10 years ago, but that's due to media hype and youtube. Don't forget FM, PES and Fifa games. Actually, I don't think you're far wrong there >.< EDIT: Just as a test: Is there anyone today as good as Dennis Bergkamp was in that Secondary Striker role? Is there anyone today as good as Alan Shearer was at leading the line? Is there anyone today as good as Veira (in his prime) at keeping the midfield organised? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 World class is a bit of a loose term tbh, how can it be categorically defined? If I was to list World Class players I'd put players who are on another level to everybody else at this moment, although again that's hard to say exactly. Messi Ronaldo Kaka Gerrard Xavi Iniesta Ibrahimovic Essien Casillas Ribery Villa Torres Just outside this top bracket I'd place the following: Julio Cesar, Maicon, D.Alves, Robinho, Vidic, Ferdinand, Lampard, Alonso, Rooney, De Rossi, Robben, Pirlo, Terry, Cech, Ramos, Fabregas, Buffon. Ronaldinho used to be my favourite player, but it proves how much his stock has fallen over the last 2 seasons that I wouldn't include him in either of these categories. Just realised I haven't managed to include a single LB in the list, just shows there is no real standout player in that position, and hasn't been since Maldini tbh. Ibrahimovic may seem a controversial selection ahead of that second class, but that just proves how underrated he is in England. Cannot wait to see him prove his class for Barca this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gash Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 Alonso Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 I hate seeing Gerrard on 'World Class' lists. Never done it at International level = not world clas imo. Not to mention the on-field thuggery and constant cheating whcih leads to his 'match winning' goals for Liverpool. Figo in his pomp, now there was world class. Ditto the real Ronaldo (albeit possibly on too short a time scale to be truly world class). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 Looking at defensive options that may not have been mentioned, I'd say Puyol, Mascherano, Alves and Maicon are world class defensive players (in the latter two cases, world class attacking fullbacks). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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