Guest reefatoon Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Gutted to lose him but at least midfield is an area we're relatively strong in. Also, he was at times too much of a distraction and you go into every game worried he's going to be targeted by the other team and get sent off or do something stupid. there's two sides to that coin, i also go into every match knowing he'll give 100% and more often than not perform solidly, keep his head and wind up the other team (with a few recent exceptions) say what you like about the arsenal incident but i'd sooner have someone in the team who cares enough to pick a cheat up off the floor by his neck than someone who's willing to let it go. You might say that, but at the time of it happening I just thought, fucking hell Joey your going to get sent off here. Luckily for him Gervinho decided to bitch slap him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I think Joey finds decisions difficult. He will make a big show of will-I- won't-I before eventually staying with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I think that Joey would probably like to stay with us in an ideal world. He obviously likes the fans, the city and the region and is settled here. However he's seen that the club has no real ambitions beyond survival, and most importantly no doubt feels unwanted by the club who will be making him unemployed next summer. I'm sure that like the other players that have been sold recently he seriously dislikes the people running the club. QPR will no doubt offer him similar money to his present salary but on a long term contract. If they get relegated he can leave on a free if he wants, as Ba did, if he wants that in his contract. QPR might be a smaller club than we are but they are certainly no less successful, in fact as we know there is hardly a club in the top two or three divisions that have won less than us over the last 40-50 years. Also they now have a motivated owner, who will invest in the club and try to make them better than they are, something it's very hard to say about our present ownership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Gutted to lose him but at least midfield is an area we're relatively strong in. Also, he was at times too much of a distraction and you go into every game worried he's going to be targeted by the other team and get sent off or do something stupid. there's two sides to that coin, i also go into every match knowing he'll give 100% and more often than not perform solidly, keep his head and wind up the other team (with a few recent exceptions) say what you like about the arsenal incident but i'd sooner have someone in the team who cares enough to pick a cheat up off the floor by his neck than someone who's willing to let it go. You might say that, but at the time of it happening I just thought, fucking hell Joey your going to get sent off here. Luckily for him Gervinho decided to bitch slap him. and that's fair enough. i wonder who you'd rather line up against on a saturday afternoon though? barton or obertan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I think that Joey would probably like to stay with us in an ideal world. He obviously likes the fans, the city and the region and is settled here. However he's seen that the club has no real ambitions beyond survival, and most importantly no doubt feels unwanted by the club who will be making him unemployed next summer. I'm sure that like the other players that have been sold recently he seriously dislikes the people running the club. QPR will no doubt offer him similar money to his present salary but on a long term contract. If they get relegated he can leave on a free if he wants, as Ba did, if he wants that in his contract. QPR might be a smaller club than we are but they are certainly no less successful, in fact as we know there is hardly a club in the top two or three divisions that have won less than us over the last 40-50 years. Also they now have a motivated owner, who will invest in the club and try to make them better than they are, something it's very hard to say about our present ownership. This last sentence is a very key one... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 If Barton went out in an area where we were relatively strong and it allowed us to get Cissokho and Maiga through the door would it make people happy Undoubtedly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Money, or thinking about the future with a kid coming up? He'll obviously want to settle. The only one who is to blame here is Ashley. And Barton for all his twitter bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I think that Joey would probably like to stay with us in an ideal world. He obviously likes the fans, the city and the region and is settled here. However he's seen that the club has no real ambitions beyond survival, and most importantly no doubt feels unwanted by the club who will be making him unemployed next summer. I'm sure that like the other players that have been sold recently he seriously dislikes the people running the club. QPR will no doubt offer him similar money to his present salary but on a long term contract. If they get relegated he can leave on a free if he wants, as Ba did, if he wants that in his contract. QPR might be a smaller club than we are but they are certainly no less successful, in fact as we know there is hardly a club in the top two or three divisions that have won less than us over the last 40-50 years. Also they now have a motivated owner, who will invest in the club and try to make them better than they are, something it's very hard to say about our present ownership. This last sentence is a very key one... Yep. That's also what Joey will say if he moves. That the ownership at QPR is a lot more ambitious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Mag Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 If Barton went out in an area where we were relatively strong and it allowed us to get Cissokho and Maiga through the door would it make people happy Yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 If Barton went out in an area where we were relatively strong and it allowed us to get Cissokho and Maiga through the door would it make people happy Undoubtedly. and what reasonable explanation can be given for this being the case? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 If Barton went out in an area where we were relatively strong and it allowed us to get Cissokho and Maiga through the door would it make people happy Undoubtedly. and what reasonable explanation can be given for this being the case? I think we need a striker and a quality left back far more than we need Barton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Gutted to lose him but at least midfield is an area we're relatively strong in. Also, he was at times too much of a distraction and you go into every game worried he's going to be targeted by the other team and get sent off or do something stupid. there's two sides to that coin, i also go into every match knowing he'll give 100% and more often than not perform solidly, keep his head and wind up the other team (with a few recent exceptions) say what you like about the arsenal incident but i'd sooner have someone in the team who cares enough to pick a cheat up off the floor by his neck than someone who's willing to let it go. You might say that, but at the time of it happening I just thought, f***ing hell Joey your going to get sent off here. Luckily for him Gervinho decided to bitch slap him. and that's fair enough. i wonder who you'd rather line up against on a saturday afternoon though? barton or obertan? I have not seen much of Obertan to judge either way mate. Saying that though, you get the cretins like Karl Henry, who want nothing better than to buckle Barton, so it will take that kind of attention away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 If Barton went out in an area where we were relatively strong and it allowed us to get Cissokho and Maiga through the door would it make people happy Undoubtedly. and what reasonable explanation can be given for this being the case? I think we need a striker and a quality left back far more than we need Barton. and the explanation that we need to give him away for free in order to bring those players in is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Gosling Guthrie Marveux Ben Arfa could all potentially do his job A couple of them dare i say could do it better? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Gutted to lose him but at least midfield is an area we're relatively strong in. Also, he was at times too much of a distraction and you go into every game worried he's going to be targeted by the other team and get sent off or do something stupid. there's two sides to that coin, i also go into every match knowing he'll give 100% and more often than not perform solidly, keep his head and wind up the other team (with a few recent exceptions) say what you like about the arsenal incident but i'd sooner have someone in the team who cares enough to pick a cheat up off the floor by his neck than someone who's willing to let it go. You might say that, but at the time of it happening I just thought, f***ing hell Joey your going to get sent off here. Luckily for him Gervinho decided to bitch slap him. and that's fair enough. i wonder who you'd rather line up against on a saturday afternoon though? barton or obertan? I have not seen much of Obertan to judge either way mate. Saying that though, you get the cretins like Karl Henry, who want nothing better than to buckle Barton, so it will take that kind of attention away. i've probably seen obertan play ten times and can conclusively state i'd much rather play against him, it's a much easier days work. i'm not sure why taking that attention away is good? wins us tons of free kicks, which we're in dire need of at the moment given the state of our strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 If Barton went out in an area where we were relatively strong and it allowed us to get Cissokho and Maiga through the door would it make people happy Undoubtedly. and what reasonable explanation can be given for this being the case? I think we need a striker and a quality left back far more than we need Barton. and the explanation that we need to give him away for free in order to bring those players in is? I was just answering the question whether if Barton's sale allowed us to bring Cissokho and Maiga in would I be happy. I assume the money saved would allow us to offer the extra needed to clinch the deals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Barton will be a big miss should he go to QPR - no doubt about it. So the assett stripping/cost cutting continues apace whilst supporters continue to be conned by those running the club. Where is all of this going to end? I'll tell you where - the club will reach Sept 1st with either no LB signed, or Wayne Bridge on loan and no striker coming in. Ashley will be quids in yet again after another window. You cannot run a football club like you do on Football Manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Gosling Guthrie Marveux Ben Arfa could all potentially do his job A couple of them dare i say could do it better? guthrie's shite, 2 have spent 95% of their nufc careers injured and the other one's got a horrible injury record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 If Barton went out in an area where we were relatively strong and it allowed us to get Cissokho and Maiga through the door would it make people happy Undoubtedly. and what reasonable explanation can be given for this being the case? I think we need a striker and a quality left back far more than we need Barton. and the explanation that we need to give him away for free in order to bring those players in is? I was just answering the question whether if Barton's sale allowed us to bring Cissokho and Maiga in would I be happy. I assume the money saved would allow us to offer the extra needed to clinch the deals. that's fair enough, i was just asking in what world this should be acceptable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Gosling Guthrie Marveux Ben Arfa could all potentially do his job A couple of them dare i say could do it better? guthrie's shite, 2 have spent 95% of their nufc careers injured and the other one's got a horrible injury record. My thoughts exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 If Barton went out in an area where we were relatively strong and it allowed us to get Cissokho and Maiga through the door would it make people happy Undoubtedly. and what reasonable explanation can be given for this being the case? I think we need a striker and a quality left back far more than we need Barton. and the explanation that we need to give him away for free in order to bring those players in is? I was just answering the question whether if Barton's sale allowed us to bring Cissokho and Maiga in would I be happy. I assume the money saved would allow us to offer the extra needed to clinch the deals. Could be argued his current wage could almost pay the wages of a new LB and Striker, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Gosling Guthrie Marveux Ben Arfa could all potentially do his job A couple of them dare i say could do it better? guthrie's s****, 2 have spent 95% of their nufc careers injured and the other one's got a horrible injury record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Gosling Guthrie Marveux Ben Arfa could all potentially do his job A couple of them dare i say could do it better? Guthrie on the wing. Have a word... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 If Barton went out in an area where we were relatively strong and it allowed us to get Cissokho and Maiga through the door would it make people happy Undoubtedly. and what reasonable explanation can be given for this being the case? I think we need a striker and a quality left back far more than we need Barton. and the explanation that we need to give him away for free in order to bring those players in is? I was just answering the question whether if Barton's sale allowed us to bring Cissokho and Maiga in would I be happy. I assume the money saved would allow us to offer the extra needed to clinch the deals. that's fair enough, i was just asking in what world this should be acceptable. FWIW I still don't think we'll get those two players in but if there's a chance Barton leaving will clinch it I'm all for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Gosling Guthrie Marveux Ben Arfa could all potentially do his job A couple of them dare i say could do it better? guthrie's s****, 2 have spent 95% of their nufc careers injured and the other one's got a horrible injury record. no, they couldnt. for the reasons above.as well as ben arfa being a flair attacking player who doesnt exactly get stuck in and defend. guthrie being shite, marveaux being an attacking player with a horrible injury record, and gosling being? what? what is gosling? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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