David28 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 It was quite early (think it was June) that he was tweeting about "not getting offerered a new contract" and that his hands are tied if they won't want him. Said also that they just wanted a younger version of him, or something along the lines and that he "can't blame them for that". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Antec Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 So just to be clear, as with most players who leave this club, is Barton (a) a Judas (b) a cunt © a money grabber (d) has cunningly engineered his way out (e) all of the above To add to that, does that mean anyone wanting to leave will be shoved out for free after saying nasty things about the state of the club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 It was quite early (think it was June) that he was tweeting about "not getting offerered a new contract" and that his hands are tied if they won't want him. Said also that they just wanted a younger version of him, or something along the lines and that he "can't blame them for that". But you agree though that he basically told us nothing really about the regime that we don't already know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 This from the true faith message board which I read. May also be one of you from here but agree totally with this comment: "I haven't seen him smile yet having signed for QPR. One can only imagine he woke up this morning and wondered why has has got himself into this situation. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the Barton household to try and gauge the mood. He still had 12 months here on 60k a week and at the end of that, he would've still got a move somewhere. He engineered a move away but he did it in the hope of landing a club like Spurs. When it became clear that no one else was interested, he must have panicking about opening his gob. Let's not beat around the bush here. He knew exactly what he was doing when he spoke out on Twitter, it was a situation that was engineered to get him out of NUFC but if you had suggested to Barton that QPR would be the only club interested in taking him at the time, he'd have probably laughed. He had backed himself into a corner and Ashley called his bluff. There is no way in a million years he wanted and/or expected QPR to be his last resort. It's a lesson to anyone who thinks they are bigger than a club or a regime, the grass certainly isn't always greener on the other side, and I say this holding our owner and chief in the contempt they deserve. Even with the current situation in mind, NUFC is a better place to play your football than QPR, every single day of the week." Nailed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 So just to be clear, as with most players who leave this club, is Barton (a) a Judas (b) a c*** © a money grabber (d) has cunningly engineered his way out (e) all of the above To add to that, does that mean anyone wanting to leave will be shoved out for free after saying nasty things about the state of the club? If they've previously been in prison for seven months, then yeah, probably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Hmmm.... Throwing large amounts of money at players who are nearing the end of their careers. That might keep them up this season, but long-term that's usually trouble. I don't think Fernandes is an Abramovich who's going to be able to keep spending. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 This from the true faith message board which I read. May also be one of you from here but agree totally with this comment: "I haven't seen him smile yet having signed for QPR. One can only imagine he woke up this morning and wondered why has has got himself into this situation. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the Barton household to try and gauge the mood. He still had 12 months here on 60k a week and at the end of that, he would've still got a move somewhere. He engineered a move away but he did it in the hope of landing a club like Spurs. When it became clear that no one else was interested, he must have panicking about opening his gob. Let's not beat around the bush here. He knew exactly what he was doing when he spoke out on Twitter, it was a situation that was engineered to get him out of NUFC but if you had suggested to Barton that QPR would be the only club interested in taking him at the time, he'd have probably laughed. He had backed himself into a corner and Ashley called his bluff. There is no way in a million years he wanted and/or expected QPR to be his last resort. It's a lesson to anyone who thinks they are bigger than a club or a regime, the grass certainly isn't always greener on the other side, and I say this holding our owner and chief in the contempt they deserve. Even with the current situation in mind, NUFC is a better place to play your football than QPR, every single day of the week." Nailed it. I think that's pretty much spot on tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 This from the true faith message board which I read. May also be one of you from here but agree totally with this comment: "I haven't seen him smile yet having signed for QPR. One can only imagine he woke up this morning and wondered why has has got himself into this situation. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the Barton household to try and gauge the mood. He still had 12 months here on 60k a week and at the end of that, he would've still got a move somewhere. He engineered a move away but he did it in the hope of landing a club like Spurs. When it became clear that no one else was interested, he must have panicking about opening his gob. Let's not beat around the bush here. He knew exactly what he was doing when he spoke out on Twitter, it was a situation that was engineered to get him out of NUFC but if you had suggested to Barton that QPR would be the only club interested in taking him at the time, he'd have probably laughed. He had backed himself into a corner and Ashley called his bluff. There is no way in a million years he wanted and/or expected QPR to be his last resort. It's a lesson to anyone who thinks they are bigger than a club or a regime, the grass certainly isn't always greener on the other side, and I say this holding our owner and chief in the contempt they deserve. Even with the current situation in mind, NUFC is a better place to play your football than QPR, every single day of the week." Nailed it. I think that's pretty much spot on tbh. yup and might I add that both player and club (NUFC) lost Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Antec Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 So just to be clear, as with most players who leave this club, is Barton (a) a Judas (b) a c*** © a money grabber (d) has cunningly engineered his way out (e) all of the above To add to that, does that mean anyone wanting to leave will be shoved out for free after saying nasty things about the state of the club? If they've previously been in prison for seven months, then yeah, probably. and if they haven't? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Laughable, IMO. In what way, shape or form is Joey immutably backed into a corner if he has the option to stay and turn down QPR? So many plot holes and so much wishful thinking in that little story it's unreal. The attempt to turn it into an argument where Joey thinks he's bigger than the club is just red-top worthy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 So just to be clear, as with most players who leave this club, is Barton (a) a Judas (b) a c*** © a money grabber (d) has cunningly engineered his way out (e) all of the above To add to that, does that mean anyone wanting to leave will be shoved out for free after saying nasty things about the state of the club? If they've previously been in prison for seven months, then yeah, probably. and if they haven't? Then I doubt it. Didn't happen to Jose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 It was quite early (think it was June) that he was tweeting about "not getting offerered a new contract" and that his hands are tied if they won't want him. Said also that they just wanted a younger version of him, or something along the lines and that he "can't blame them for that". But you agree though that he basically told us nothing really about the regime that we don't already know? Some already knew, some didn't. Some wanted to know the truth, some didn't. Some believed it, some didn't and never will. (Not saying that to you btw, just in general) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 This from the true faith message board which I read. May also be one of you from here but agree totally with this comment: "I haven't seen him smile yet having signed for QPR. One can only imagine he woke up this morning and wondered why has has got himself into this situation. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the Barton household to try and gauge the mood. He still had 12 months here on 60k a week and at the end of that, he would've still got a move somewhere. He engineered a move away but he did it in the hope of landing a club like Spurs. When it became clear that no one else was interested, he must have panicking about opening his gob. Let's not beat around the bush here. He knew exactly what he was doing when he spoke out on Twitter, it was a situation that was engineered to get him out of NUFC but if you had suggested to Barton that QPR would be the only club interested in taking him at the time, he'd have probably laughed. He had backed himself into a corner and Ashley called his bluff. There is no way in a million years he wanted and/or expected QPR to be his last resort. It's a lesson to anyone who thinks they are bigger than a club or a regime, the grass certainly isn't always greener on the other side, and I say this holding our owner and chief in the contempt they deserve. Even with the current situation in mind, NUFC is a better place to play your football than QPR, every single day of the week." Nailed it. I think that's pretty much spot on tbh. Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Antec Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 This from the true faith message board which I read. May also be one of you from here but agree totally with this comment: "I haven't seen him smile yet having signed for QPR. One can only imagine he woke up this morning and wondered why has has got himself into this situation. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the Barton household to try and gauge the mood. He still had 12 months here on 60k a week and at the end of that, he would've still got a move somewhere. He engineered a move away but he did it in the hope of landing a club like Spurs. When it became clear that no one else was interested, he must have panicking about opening his gob. Let's not beat around the bush here. He knew exactly what he was doing when he spoke out on Twitter, it was a situation that was engineered to get him out of NUFC but if you had suggested to Barton that QPR would be the only club interested in taking him at the time, he'd have probably laughed. He had backed himself into a corner and Ashley called his bluff. There is no way in a million years he wanted and/or expected QPR to be his last resort. It's a lesson to anyone who thinks they are bigger than a club or a regime, the grass certainly isn't always greener on the other side, and I say this holding our owner and chief in the contempt they deserve. Even with the current situation in mind, NUFC is a better place to play your football than QPR, every single day of the week." He could quite easily have ran down his contract and waited until next summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 I might add I'm fairly non-plus now about the Joey situ (there are other, many other far more glaring concerns, lol) just thought that comment was a pretty good one. Ofcourse not everyone will see it that way and fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Antec Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 So just to be clear, as with most players who leave this club, is Barton (a) a Judas (b) a c*** © a money grabber (d) has cunningly engineered his way out (e) all of the above To add to that, does that mean anyone wanting to leave will be shoved out for free after saying nasty things about the state of the club? If they've previously been in prison for seven months, then yeah, probably. and if they haven't? Then I doubt it. Didn't happen to Jose. Obviously wasn't nasty enough with his comments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Would a player, that would have wanted away from the start, stated that he wanted to stay despite being transfer listed for free? Joey7Barton Joseph Barton I am on a free but the honour of wearing those B+W stripes, surpasses that 1 Aug. Joseph Barton Joey7Barton Joseph Barton Somewhere in those high echelons of NUFC, they have decided, I am persona non grata. Surely he could have just said something like that he's been listed for free and has no chance other than to leave (and none of the fans would have hated him for that, being rather on his side than on Ashley's). At least at this time he definetly still wanted to stay and I don't see how that change seeing the way he played in our first two games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 So just to be clear, as with most players who leave this club, is Barton (a) a Judas (b) a c*** © a money grabber (d) has cunningly engineered his way out (e) all of the above To add to that, does that mean anyone wanting to leave will be shoved out for free after saying nasty things about the state of the club? If they've previously been in prison for seven months, then yeah, probably. and if they haven't? Then I doubt it. Didn't happen to Jose. Obviously wasn't nasty enough with his comments He revealed more than Barton (regarding his contract offer). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 So just to be clear, as with most players who leave this club, is Barton (a) a Judas (b) a c*** © a money grabber (d) has cunningly engineered his way out (e) all of the above To add to that, does that mean anyone wanting to leave will be shoved out for free after saying nasty things about the state of the club? If they've previously been in prison for seven months, then yeah, probably. and if they haven't? Then I doubt it. Didn't happen to Jose. Obviously wasn't nasty enough with his comments He revealed more than Barton (regarding his contract offer). He also wanted away and confirmed that himself. No risk revealing contract details then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Antec Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 So just to be clear, as with most players who leave this club, is Barton (a) a Judas (b) a c*** © a money grabber (d) has cunningly engineered his way out (e) all of the above To add to that, does that mean anyone wanting to leave will be shoved out for free after saying nasty things about the state of the club? If they've previously been in prison for seven months, then yeah, probably. and if they haven't? Then I doubt it. Didn't happen to Jose. Obviously wasn't nasty enough with his comments He revealed more than Barton (regarding his contract offer). Enrique would bring in a bigger transfer fee though. Have you ever wondered why Barton was given a free transfer when the club are looking for full value from transfers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 The problem with trying to work out what Joey 'really' wanted is that he seemed to be pretty confused about that himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 So just to be clear, as with most players who leave this club, is Barton (a) a Judas (b) a c*** © a money grabber (d) has cunningly engineered his way out (e) all of the above To add to that, does that mean anyone wanting to leave will be shoved out for free after saying nasty things about the state of the club? If they've previously been in prison for seven months, then yeah, probably. and if they haven't? Then I doubt it. Didn't happen to Jose. Obviously wasn't nasty enough with his comments He revealed more than Barton (regarding his contract offer). Enrique would bring in a bigger transfer fee though. Have you ever wondered why Barton was given a free transfer when the club are looking for full value from transfers? That's my point. Barton was an exception because he had previous with the board, it won't happen again unless you got someone who has pissed off the owner as much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Antec Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 So just to be clear, as with most players who leave this club, is Barton (a) a Judas (b) a c*** © a money grabber (d) has cunningly engineered his way out (e) all of the above To add to that, does that mean anyone wanting to leave will be shoved out for free after saying nasty things about the state of the club? If they've previously been in prison for seven months, then yeah, probably. and if they haven't? Then I doubt it. Didn't happen to Jose. Obviously wasn't nasty enough with his comments He revealed more than Barton (regarding his contract offer). Enrique would bring in a bigger transfer fee though. Have you ever wondered why Barton was given a free transfer when the club are looking for full value from transfers? That's my point. Barton was an exception because he had previous with the board, it won't happen again unless you got someone who has pissed off the owner as much. So you're saying that any player who's had previous with the board will be given a free transfer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 So just to be clear, as with most players who leave this club, is Barton (a) a Judas (b) a cunt © a money grabber (d) has cunningly engineered his way out (e) all of the above To add to that, does that mean anyone wanting to leave will be shoved out for free after saying nasty things about the state of the club? Colo and Jonas will be absolute cunts this time next year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Colo and Jonas will be absolute cunts this time next year Same as any other player who has ever left the club: Jenas, Bowyer, Carr, Bramble, Bellamy, N'Zogbia, Bassong, Martins, Cole, Ginola, Hamman, etc. Can only think of a handful who weren't harangued on their return to SJP. The world of fickle football fans rears it's head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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