Cajun Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 pedigree, not had chances he is foreign though I suppose so that's quite exciting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mani Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 he deserves more chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 I hope he comes good but I have real doubts, despite the whole rude boy ranger stuff I think he has looked a lot more promising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Getting that assist today could make him realise he can actually perform for the club. A goal or two in pre-season would be very useful for the lad's confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mani Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 from what iv seen he's physically as strong as ranger, not as gud in the air but he can actually hold the ball up unlike Ranger who just tries to take players on and fail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 pedigree, not had chances he is foreign though I suppose so that's quite exciting He's played 7 games. Most of them as sub. I'd also put him ahead of Best and Ranger in terms of strikers I'd want to start for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Is that the pedigree part? Ranger doesn't hold the ball up as well as xisco? Ranger is too greedy? We are talking about Nile ranger right? Straight like a banana and all that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Is that the pedigree part? Ranger doesn't hold the ball up as well as xisco? Ranger is too greedy? We are talking about Nile ranger right? Straight like a banana and all that? Ranger held the ball up against championship defenders, he also rarely looked like scoring. Best is an enigma, no real stand out qualities, and slightly inconsistent. Xisco was bought, given a few minutes in a shocking team, then booed by sections of the crowd, before being farmed out on loan. I would at least like to see the player given a chance to prove himself. If you think that he has been given that then so be it. I on the other hand do not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 He was young, put in the reserves and thought 'fuck it, o can't be arsed with this" players should earn chances, he doesn't seem too fussed about doing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 give him a chance, lets be honest are we going to get much in up front before the season starts? at least xisco may prove to be half way useful if he gets his head down and works to earn a place in the side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 If we sold him we'd be lucky to get a million quid for him. As poor as he's looked when he has played, I'd rather have him looking interested and motivated as an extra million quid in the bank. It's a hell of a long-shot for this lad to work out and contribute but he must have something to be capped at U-21 level for the World and European Champions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 I hope he does, I honestly do. If he is willing to work hard and prove people wrong he has my full support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 May aswell keep him, selling him for a pittance wont help our cause anymore than giving him a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 If we sold him we'd be lucky to get a million quid for him. As poor as he's looked when he has played, I'd rather have him looking interested and motivated as an extra million quid in the bank. It's a hell of a long-shot for this lad to work out and contribute but he must have something to be capped at U-21 level for the World and European Champions. Excellent point, very well put. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 If his wages are anything near what has been reported selling him for a pittance might end up costing us less in the long run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 He was young, put in the reserves and thought 'f*** it, o can't be arsed with this" players should earn chances, he doesn't seem too fussed about doing that. Pure speculation, mostly based on stuff you've read on this forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 From what little i've seen of both he's at least twice the player Best is. Would rather we have better, but were not in that position, if he gets it together and management show some faith in him he could give us a decent return finally. As for Best, I honestly cannot see it happening ever. Wishing to be proven wrong of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 As I said Ronaldo, it's no different to you believing what your flatmates have told you about players. If a number of different posters who regularly watch the reserves say he has looked like he couldn't be arsed why would I not believe them? unless I am in complete denial and desperate to want him to be good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 He was young, put in the reserves and thought 'f*** it, o can't be arsed with this" players should earn chances, he doesn't seem too fussed about doing that. I don't know where to begin with this. Would you prefer we started with Best? A player I've seen do nothing to 'earn' his chance except sign a contract with the club. Ranger needs loaning as bar mediocre technique and ability to hold the ball up he seems really poor in front of goal. Considering Xisco was never given a chance originally I think he's earned his chance now, he has more to him than Best appears to and right now I don't see a wealth of better options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 It is different. Whenever I posted something that they had said, I fully acknowledged that they weren't my opinions. You've taken something from someone you've never met and formed a pretty harsh opinion of your own based on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 As I said Ronaldo, it's no different to you believing what your flatmates have told you about players. If a number of different posters who regularly watch the reserves say he has looked like he couldn't be arsed why would I not believe them? unless I am in complete denial and desperate to want him to be good. This look of dis-interest. Could it also, be perceived as frustration at the fact he wasn't even being consider a substitute? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 I trust their opinion, I don't see a problem with that. You have given many harsh opinions based on what others have seen and said, very, very harsh If someone loses their place they should try and win it back, next season we need players who are prepared to fit, not just give up when it gets a little tough. According to VI he looked pretty awful on loan too, the stats back this up but then I didn't have a season ticket at racing santadar last season so I suppose I should pretend none of that happened. He obviously deserves a chance more than the British players for some reason though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 Opinions based on opinions, no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 I suppose you pay absolutely no attention to the youth and reserves then? We may aswell lock that thread then because most of us will have not watched the games so the content is pretty meaningless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted July 24, 2010 Share Posted July 24, 2010 If we were playing Murcia he would be the main man as he got 4 goals against the woeful Murcia in 2007/8, which was his best top flight season when he plundered 9 league goals. Got subbed more times than Nobby during that season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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