Rob W Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 If you take wins in competitive games (and leave out John Carver who ran the club for 1 sucessful game) Hughton comes top of ALL our managers since 1930 (before that it was a committee) Hughton 56.76% KK 54.98% Martin (47-50) 49.03% SBR 46.66% Roeder 45.83% Cox 44.97% Souness 44.82% Mather (35-39) 43.57% Livingstone (54-56) 43.43% Cunningham (30-35) 41.83% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gray Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Can't work out whether that's an achievement or not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 How do you spell Joe Harvey? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Did you take Hughton's stats from Wikipedia? Don't think that those are correct. Have we lost 10 times already under Hughton? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Wikipedia is out of date hughton's record in competitive games is P 37 W 21 D10 L6 this is in his current time running the club not including the 3 games after KK quit (again) Joe Harvey only had a 37.9% win record......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 What's his record like compared to Mourinho? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Doesn't take into account standard of opposition, trohies won or european qualification = pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GAMMELL Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Should be a statue built of the cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guinness_fiend Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 What's his record like compared to Mourinho? Probably the same when it comes to our home record this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Should be a statue built of the cunt What's your boggle, man? He's done a brilliant job, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Definitely better than Keegan like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GAMMELL Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Should be a statue built of the cunt What's your boggle, man? He's done a brilliant job, tbh. Yes, hes done a very decent job at this level, the true acid test is if he can keep us up in the Premier League next season should we gain promotion... I have my doubts big time. I'll sing his praises no end if he does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisJbarnes Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Those who say and have said at the start of the season that we should get rid of him need to think what alternatives we realistically have. He's made a few mistakes which are plain to see but the fact is, we are 5 points clear at the top of the championship with a game in hand. That is highly commendable and I don't think that we would necessarily be in this position had we not kept him in charge. I think if we go up this season, we need to keep him in charge and bear in mind that we will be a newly promoted team, and that anything above 18th place is acceptable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guinness_fiend Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Should be a statue built of the c*** What's your boggle, man? He's done a brilliant job, tbh. Yes, hes done a very decent job at this level, the true acid test is if he can keep us up in the Premier League next season should we gain promotion... I have my doubts big time. I'll sing his praises no end if he does. You know what, whether you meant it or not, you've just summed up my feelings. I think he's a top bloke doing a good job in the Championship. Whether he can do repeat his achievements in the Premiership is another thing, but I think that - should we get promoted - he should at least be given the chance to build upon what he has achieved thus far. If we're doing terribly by Christmas (and by "terribly", I don't mean mid-table, because I'd be satisifed on that return for first season back with the big boys), then we should replace him. Until that point, he has my support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest njkman Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 if im not mistaken, his contract runs out in january so if we are in a pickle then he can be gracefully be said goodbye too.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Those who say and have said at the start of the season that we should get rid of him need to think what alternatives we realistically have. He's made a few mistakes which are plain to see but the fact is, we are 5 points clear at the top of the championship with a game in hand. That is highly commendable and I don't think that we would necessarily be in this position had we not kept him in charge. I think if we go up this season, we need to keep him in charge and bear in mind that we will be a newly promoted team, and that anything above 18th place is acceptable. Never going to happen with our fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Thats all very well, but lets look at that average this time next year. Keegans must have been belting after the first full year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jonlane86 Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Hughton 56.76% KK 54.98% Martin (47-50) 49.03% SBR 46.66% Roeder 45.83% Cox 44.97% Souness 44.82% Mather (35-39) 43.57% Livingstone (54-56) 43.43% Cunningham (30-35) 41.83% If anyone can be bothered to work this out based on top flight league games and all cup competitions i'll take this into account...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 what is interesting is that only KK and Hughton have won more than 50% of our competitive games over the last SEVENTY years No wonder we never win the League - total lack of consistency Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Tell you what, when KK was here the 1st time was he getting the plaudits he deserved back then or were people saying let's just wait and see how he does halfway through a premier league season!! Were they hell, they were singing his name and calling him all the best things under the sun! Hughton has done a great job under extreme pressure from all the crap that had gone on in the boardroom etc... Kk had unity and a whole new backing when he was here that season hughton has done a fantastic job, then throw in the ridiculous circumstances he has had to work in and it makes it an even better job. People need to get off his back a bit and appreciate the job he's done. He can only beat the opposition put in front of him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Tell you what, when KK was here the 1st time was he getting the plaudits he deserved back then or were people saying let's just wait and see how he does halfway through a premier league season!! Were they hell, they were singing his name and calling him all the best things under the sun! Hughton has done a great job under extreme pressure from all the crap that had gone on in the boardroom etc... Kk had unity and a whole new backing when he was here that season hughton has done a fantastic job, then throw in the ridiculous circumstances he has had to work in and it makes it an even better job. People need to get off his back a bit and appreciate the job he's done. He can only beat the opposition put in front of him This. Absolutely spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jonlane86 Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Tell you what, when KK was here the 1st time was he getting the plaudits he deserved back then or were people saying let's just wait and see how he does halfway through a premier league season!! Were they hell, they were singing his name and calling him all the best things under the sun! Hughton has done a great job under extreme pressure from all the crap that had gone on in the boardroom etc... Kk had unity and a whole new backing when he was here that season hughton has done a fantastic job, then throw in the ridiculous circumstances he has had to work in and it makes it an even better job. People need to get off his back a bit and appreciate the job he's done. He can only beat the opposition put in front of him Hughton Top Flight Record: 2006-07 Man United (a) 6-0 defeat 2007-08 Hull City (h) 1-2 defeat West Ham United (a) 3-1 defeat Blackburn Rovers (h) 1-2 defeat Everton (a) 2-2 draw West Bromwich Albion (a) 3-2 win Everton (h) 0-0 draw Bolton (h) 0-1 defeat Man United (h) 1-2 defeat Hull City (a) 1-1 draw Arsenal (h) 1-3 defeat So lets judge Chris on the opposition he's been given in top flight management Played - 11 Won - 1 Drawn - 3 Lost - 7 Goals for - 11 Goals against - 24 Clean Sheets - 1 That is a possible 6 points out of 33, 6 of those games we were playing 'beatable' opposition, and thats not including Everton at home which at the time I thought was a shoe in. I wouldn't blame anyone for having doubts after looking at those stats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 what is interesting is that only KK and Hughton have won more than 50% of our competitive games over the last SEVENTY years No wonder we never win the League - total lack of consistency Alex Ferguson's record at ManU is just 58%. It is rare that a manager gets above 60% over any significant period of time, even if he is very succesful. I agree Hughton's stat is pretty bollocks with most of them being Championship games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Tell you what, when KK was here the 1st time was he getting the plaudits he deserved back then or were people saying let's just wait and see how he does halfway through a premier league season!! Were they hell, they were singing his name and calling him all the best things under the sun! Hughton has done a great job under extreme pressure from all the crap that had gone on in the boardroom etc... Kk had unity and a whole new backing when he was here that season hughton has done a fantastic job, then throw in the ridiculous circumstances he has had to work in and it makes it an even better job. People need to get off his back a bit and appreciate the job he's done. He can only beat the opposition put in front of him You make some very good points. Back then we were considered to be a second tier club, many of us had resigned ourselves to being that or at best a yo-yo club, though even the yo-yo was more down than up. When things started to take off under Keegan there was a huge upsurge in optimism and belief and it felt like we were finally moving forward and breaking off the shackles of mediocrity and the feel good factor was sky high. This time many fans have only ever known top level football and feel that promotion is merely putting us back where we should be anyway. Having seen quite a few promotions, my view is that both men have done equally good jobs and although I can't imagine CH ever becoming the legend KK was, his job has probably been a tougher one due to the fracticious circumstances he's had to operate within. I'm not sure Chris Hughton really is "Newcastle's most successful manager ever" as different times and different leagues cloud the issue, but he is certainly one of the most dignified people to have ever been associated with the club and if he get's us promoted he deserves all the praise he gets for doing so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Tell you what, when KK was here the 1st time was he getting the plaudits he deserved back then or were people saying let's just wait and see how he does halfway through a premier league season!! Were they hell, they were singing his name and calling him all the best things under the sun! Hughton has done a great job under extreme pressure from all the crap that had gone on in the boardroom etc... Kk had unity and a whole new backing when he was here that season hughton has done a fantastic job, then throw in the ridiculous circumstances he has had to work in and it makes it an even better job. People need to get off his back a bit and appreciate the job he's done. He can only beat the opposition put in front of him Hughton Top Flight Record: 2006-07 Man United (a) 6-0 defeat 2007-08 Hull City (h) 1-2 defeat West Ham United (a) 3-1 defeat Blackburn Rovers (h) 1-2 defeat Everton (a) 2-2 draw West Bromwich Albion (a) 3-2 win Everton (h) 0-0 draw Bolton (h) 0-1 defeat Man United (h) 1-2 defeat Hull City (a) 1-1 draw Arsenal (h) 1-3 defeat So lets judge Chris on the opposition he's been given in top flight management Played - 11 Won - 1 Drawn - 3 Lost - 7 Goals for - 11 Goals against - 24 Clean Sheets - 1 That is a possible 6 points out of 33, 6 of those games we were playing 'beatable' opposition, and thats not including Everton at home which at the time I thought was a shoe in. I wouldn't blame anyone for having doubts after looking at those stats. That was Pearson. I don't believe Hughton was even at the club at that time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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