Optimistic Nut Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Fantastic to see St-Etienne won their derby with Lyon for the first time in 16 years tonight to stay top! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Is it me, or has the lack of investment from Everton finally caught up with them? insofar as i understand they spent their transfer cash on new contracts for their players, but yes lack of cash spent especially on a reliable striker is catching up on them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Is it me, or has the lack of investment from Everton finally caught up with them? Much like Arsenal and their goalkeeping situation, Everton really need a fit and consistent striker to take them forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 it takes Extreme WUM'ing to even suggest that Liverpool aren't a big club. Right, just because your definition of what a big club is, doesn't mean it's true. My opinion of big club's is that them of winning league titles recently, name me another BIG club in europe that hasn't won a league title in the last 20 years in their retrospective leagues? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 I'd say that over the past 15-20 years they're more of a Porto, Lyon or PSV, than a Man Utd, Barcelona or Real Madrid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 I'd say that over the past 15-20 years they're more of a Porto, Lyon or PSV, than a Man Utd, Barcelona or Real Madrid. That's generally the point i'm saying, they are not what I define are the BIG clubs now. They've been well left behind, just in the same way in which we are. Some people will say we are a big club because of the attendances we pull, which they are right in their own way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 I'd say that over the past 15-20 years they're more of a Porto, Lyon or PSV, than a Man Utd, Barcelona or Real Madrid. That's generally the point i'm saying, they are not what I define are the BIG clubs now. They've been well left behind, just in the same way in which we are. Some people will say we are a big club because of the attendances we pull, which they are right in their own way. I've already told you, they finished second and four points off the title the season before last. Fucked up last year and started poorly this time but that's in no way 'being well left behind' (sic). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 I think neesy's spot on with this one tbh. Think they're on a par with Villa & Everton quite away behind the Sky three, Spurs & City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 I'd say that over the past 15-20 years they're more of a Porto, Lyon or PSV, than a Man Utd, Barcelona or Real Madrid. That's generally the point i'm saying, they are not what I define are the BIG clubs now. They've been well left behind, just in the same way in which we are. Some people will say we are a big club because of the attendances we pull, which they are right in their own way. I've already told you, they finished second and four points off the title the season before last. Fucked up last year and started poorly this time but that's in no way 'being well left behind' (sic). Hmm, I would say being over 20 points behind last season would say otherwise. Also selling two of the best CM's in the world, and replacing them with Christian Poulsen and Lucas would do so as well. You could of said that about us in 2005 under Souness then, when every fucker knew we were light years behind the top 4 then after when we finished 3rd in 2003. 2 years is a hell of a long time in football, we should be best one's of knowing that at NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 They're a big club in massive decline, next Leeds tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 They're a big club in massive decline, next Leeds tbh. I hope that's true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Not a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 I think neesy's spot on with this one tbh. Think they're on a par with Villa & Everton quite away behind the Sky three, Spurs & City. City who were 19 points off the title themselves? And only four points better than Liverpool... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Its not so out of the question, massive amounts of debt, a stadium that can't be redeveloped a squad that's on inflated wages and underperforming. They're in trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Its not so out of the question, massive amounts of debt, a stadium that can't be redeveloped a squad that's on inflated wages and underperforming they're in trouble. That's true, though the likely hood is that someone would be able to buy them out on the cheap though. I think that's why no-one has came in to buy them yet, because quite frankly the asking price currently is double the real value of the club IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 They need some Pompey-level mentalists to buy them. Some complete joker on a powertrip and with little money behind him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdefg Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Remember the last "next Leeds" according to every pub pundit not on Tyneside? Not a chance, they're merely shite right now, which is funny, but let's not get carried away. As for "big club", a meaningless term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 And when RBS takes over the price will be set much better, the Yanks may be fucking themselves over by the end of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Remember the value of the club has to include what the playing squad are worth as well, so if Torres is sold then they need to knock off his value to the tune of around £50M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Remember the last "next Leeds" according to every pub pundit not on Tyneside? Not a chance, they're merely s**** right now, which is funny, but let's not get carried away. As for "big club", a meaningless term. Aye but our owner has actually dealt with the debt (of a fashion) there's has been increased if anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Remember the last "next Leeds" according to every pub pundit not on Tyneside? Not a chance, they're merely s**** right now, which is funny, but let's not get carried away. As for "big club", a meaningless term. Aye but our owner has actually dealt with the debt (of a fashion) there's has been increased if anything. Ohh it has increased to around the tune of £100M in the last 3 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Carragher and Skertel should marry each other, apperently they can't stop screwing each other on the field..2nd year in a row ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Completely pointless I know, but South Korea has just won the U-17 Women's World Cup. Just utterly confused by the concept of us winning anything in football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 I think neesy's spot on with this one tbh. Think they're on a par with Villa & Everton quite away behind the Sky three, Spurs & City. City who were 19 points off the title themselves? And only four points better than Liverpool... City who've spent absolutely loads and can compete financially with the other top clubs. Put it this way, I bet Man City's CV between 2010-20 is better than Liverpool's in that timeframe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 I think neesy's spot on with this one tbh. Think they're on a par with Villa & Everton quite away behind the Sky three, Spurs & City. City who were 19 points off the title themselves? And only four points better than Liverpool... City who've spent absolutely loads and can compete financially with the other top clubs. Put it this way, I bet Man City's CV between 2010-20 is better than Liverpool's in that timeframe. That post is going to get an almighty bump in 10 years times, Nut! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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