Kaizero Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Dresden spouts so much gibberish on here you'd think he was a new member. Dunno, I'm pretty clear on this. Maybe you should just have another glance back? Main Entry: gibberish Part of Speech: noun Definition: nonsense talk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Okay then Dresden, what should be Barca's plan B? Erm, I haven't said specifically 'Barcelona need a plan B'. I said that they need to be able to vary their tactical approach. Narrow/wide, deeper defensive line, stand off the opponents for phases... dunno, whatever. Pretty clear that they cannot break from their usual approach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 If that one dimension is passing and moving then you've got a point. They do it better than any team I can remember seeing tbh. you haven't understood. their range/variety of approaches/tactics/formations is one-dimensional. as in, they can only play one way with one formation. it's not perfect. They only play football the way they believe it should be played, and rightly so. What absolute horse shit. Reckon the whole reason to play competitive football is to win. Yeah and they are winning playing this way. How clueless are you like.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Dresden spouts so much gibberish on here you'd think he was a new member. Dunno, I'm pretty clear on this. Maybe you should just have another glance back? Main Entry: gibberish Part of Speech: noun Definition: nonsense talk What a shit post - totally ignorant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Dresden spouts so much gibberish on here you'd think he was a new member. Dunno, I'm pretty clear on this. Maybe you should just have another glance back? Main Entry: gibberish Part of Speech: noun Definition: nonsense talk What a shit post - totally ignorant. I'm defining for you what gibberish means, as I was saying you speak nonsense, which you are doing. That post was vital as your post clearly showed you did not understand the meaning and context of the word gibberish in the aforementioned sentence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 If that one dimension is passing and moving then you've got a point. They do it better than any team I can remember seeing tbh. you haven't understood. their range/variety of approaches/tactics/formations is one-dimensional. as in, they can only play one way with one formation. it's not perfect. They only play football the way they believe it should be played, and rightly so. What absolute horse s***. Reckon the whole reason to play competitive football is to win. Yeah and they are winning playing this way. How clueless are you like.. Have won 1 in 3. Sorry. Yes, I get the point that in the whole season context their approach has been successful. However, my argument is that limiting a team to one approach is not wise. Reckon with the players at Barcelona they shouldn't lose a single game, let alone scrape a 2-1 win against a team considerably inferior to them in Bilbao. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 If that one dimension is passing and moving then you've got a point. They do it better than any team I can remember seeing tbh. you haven't understood. their range/variety of approaches/tactics/formations is one-dimensional. as in, they can only play one way with one formation. it's not perfect. They only play football the way they believe it should be played, and rightly so. What absolute horse s***. Reckon the whole reason to play competitive football is to win. Yeah and they are winning playing this way. How clueless are you like.. Have won 1 in 3. Sorry. Yes, I get the point that in the whole season context their approach has been successful. However, my argument is that limiting a team to one approach is not wise. Reckon with the players at Barcelona they shouldn't lose a single game, let alone scrape a 2-1 win against a team considerably inferior to them in Bilbao. You clearly do not understand how football works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Dresden spouts so much gibberish on here you'd think he was a new member. Dunno, I'm pretty clear on this. Maybe you should just have another glance back? Main Entry: gibberish Part of Speech: noun Definition: nonsense talk What a s*** post - totally ignorant. I'm defining for you what gibberish means, as I was saying you speak nonsense, which you are doing. That post was vital as your post clearly showed you did not understand the meaning and context of the word gibberish in the aforementioned sentence. Should have been obvious given that I asked you to read back just to make sure that you had comprehended my argument. Typical ignorant internet comedian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 They won 16 on the bounce before this week ffs 'Current state' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 If that one dimension is passing and moving then you've got a point. They do it better than any team I can remember seeing tbh. you haven't understood. their range/variety of approaches/tactics/formations is one-dimensional. as in, they can only play one way with one formation. it's not perfect. They only play football the way they believe it should be played, and rightly so. What absolute horse s***. Reckon the whole reason to play competitive football is to win. Yeah and they are winning playing this way. How clueless are you like.. Have won 1 in 3. Sorry. Yes, I get the point that in the whole season context their approach has been successful. However, my argument is that limiting a team to one approach is not wise. Reckon with the players at Barcelona they shouldn't lose a single game, let alone scrape a 2-1 win against a team considerably inferior to them in Bilbao. You clearly do not understand how football works. What am I missing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 mattis you're a rubbish WUM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Dresden spouts so much gibberish on here you'd think he was a new member. Dunno, I'm pretty clear on this. Maybe you should just have another glance back? Main Entry: gibberish Part of Speech: noun Definition: nonsense talk What a s*** post - totally ignorant. I'm defining for you what gibberish means, as I was saying you speak nonsense, which you are doing. That post was vital as your post clearly showed you did not understand the meaning and context of the word gibberish in the aforementioned sentence. Should have been obvious given that I asked you to read back just to make sure that you had comprehended my argument. Ignorant. Assuming I've not read your argument is ignorant, as I have read it. My response to your argument was that it was pure gibberish, which it is. Every part of your accusations towards Barcelona appear to be more driven by "I don't like them, lol." rather than it being rooted in reality and the evidence at hand. This examplified by you saying Dani Alves' delivery always being shit, a definite statement regarding someones ability, whilst the evidence at hand (assists, completed passes) proves your statement false. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 I dont even know if to laugh or cry tbh, should be a health warning on this thread like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 No you are implying a dislike. Such a typical ignorant perspective. As if I have to dislike something to criticize it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Mourinho outplayed Pep in the CL semi-finals when coaching Inter And yet when the same bloke took a different set of players to the Camp Nou a couple of months back they got twatted 5-0. Funny old game... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Alves does have a shit delivery. Of which I define as being a cross from distance (near to the touch-line). Usually, either over-hit or slow and looping. Will assume that most of his assists are short ranged passes / square balls into the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Implying a dislike based on a post such as Barcelona have a strong spine of cunts. Didn't know Pinto was one until today. Has been added to my list of Barcelona cunts. is more than warranted, and does not assume an ignorant perspective towards your opinion. I say you "appear" to be rooting your argument in dislike of something, not giving a definite statetment regarding what opinion drives your argument, which is what you are doing by constantly bringing up me being "Ignorant" as an escape hatch from your failing argumentations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 What an embarrassment this thread has turned into tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 My argument about Barcelona's only having one approach, which hinders their effectiveness, is from a purely footballing perspective. a competitive footballing perspective, a game in which winning is everything. You can imply a dislike from that post, yes. I f***ing detest some of the antics many of their players get up to. Don't let that distract you from the point at hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Alves does have a shit delivery. Of which I define as being a cross from distance (near to the touch-line). Usually, either over-hit or slow and looping. Will assume that most of his assists are short ranged passes / square balls into the box. Assume it because it backs up your point. Very gracious of you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Alves does have a s*** delivery. Of which I define as being a cross from distance (near to the touch-line). Usually, either over-hit or slow and looping. Will assume that most of his assists are short ranged passes / square balls into the box. Assume it because it backs up your point. Very gracious of you. Is it accurate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Alves does have a s*** delivery. Of which I define as being a cross from distance (near to the touch-line). Usually, either over-hit or slow and looping. Will assume that most of his assists are short ranged passes / square balls into the box. Assume it because it backs up your point. Very gracious of you. Is it accurate? Not a clue. At least I'll admit it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Theres a bit of a differance between "Barcelona have no plan B" and "Pep Gaurdiola is tactically shite" like but fair do's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 My argument about Barcelona's only having one approach, which hinders their effectiveness, is from a purely footballing perspective. a competitive footballing perspective, a game in which winning is everything. You can imply a dislike from that post, yes. I f***ing detest some of the antics many of their players get up to. Don't let that distract you from the point at hand. I disagree with that. I'd much rather the philosophies of somebody like Cruijff were kept alive, than watching the top teams play out drab affairs as they are too scared of losing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 My argument about Barcelona's only having one approach, which is hinders their effectiveness, is from a purely footballing perspective. a competitive footballing perspective, a game in which winning is everything. You can imply a dislike from that post, yes. I fucking detest some of the antics many of their players get up to. Don't let that distract you from the point at hand. The point about Barcelona only having one approach is not valid, though, rooted in evidence by their performances if you go in depth to analyze them. I would reccomend you having a peek around Zonal Marking and read a few match reports involving them. Barcelona in general employ a 4-3-3 system with a plan B of 4-2-4. There are also variations in their main system, as last season facing Real Madrid they had a more defensively oriented side emplying a wing back as winger to allow for a more defensive transition whilst playing Messi in the center furthest forward on the pitch. The failure of Barcelona against Inter was not sticking to their normal plans, and rather employing a more defensive approach towards the game wheras their ususal pass and move would potentially have suited better against Mourinho's tactics. (This can potentially be evident in the comparison between Barcelona - Inter last year and Barcelona - Real Madrid this year where they played their ususal style against a Mourinho organised team compared to altering defensively.) Saying Guardiola is tactically inept because he preferes an attacking style of play is like saying Mourinho is tactically inept because he prefers a more defensive one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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