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So, for you, Jonas Gutierrez must absolutely be a starter in your team ?

 

Yeah. Energy, work rate etc.

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Obertan has done quite well in general play but he was very lazy for their goal and for the one which was disallowed. He shouldn't have been on the pitch at that stage and he is the one who should make way against Spurs.

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So, for you, Jonas Gutierrez must absolutely be a starter in your team ?

 

Yeah. Energy, work rate etc.

 

 

And for the goals ratio, it doesn't disturb you ?

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So, for you, Jonas Gutierrez must absolutely be a starter in your team ?

 

Yeah. Energy, work rate etc.

 

 

And for the goals ratio, it doesn't disturb you ?

 

No, not really.

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So, for you, Jonas Gutierrez must absolutely be a starter in your team ?

 

Yeah. Energy, work rate etc.

 

 

And for the goals ratio, it doesn't disturb you ?

 

Not at all, we know Jonas doesnt offer much of a goal threat. Thats not what he is about.

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And for the goals ratio, it doesn't disturb you ?

 

Jonas does some things better than others in our team and football isn't just about scoring goals.  Jonas will track back and provide cover for the defenders, he can pick up the ball and take it forward and keep possession which can take pressure off us and give us a bit of time with the ball.  He also wins a lot of free kicks in dangerous areas because he protects the ball well when making runs up the line.

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And for the goals ratio, it doesn't disturb you ?

 

Jonas does some things better than others in our team and football isn't just about scoring goals.  Jonas will track back and provide cover for the defenders, he can pick up the ball and take it forward and keep possession which can take pressure off us and give us a bit of time with the ball.  He also wins a lot of free kicks in dangerous areas because he protects the ball well when making runs up the line.

 

exactly  O0 he also create space for his teammates drawing the defender away with his dribbling.

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So, for you, Jonas Gutierrez must absolutely be a starter in your team ?

 

I think in the long term, Marveaux will be the starter in the left. He's ten times better footballer than Jonas and is also known for his work rate.

 

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So, for you, Jonas Gutierrez must absolutely be a starter in your team ?

 

I think in the long term, Marveaux will be the starter in the left. He's ten times better footballer than Jonas and is also known for his work rate.

 

 

no

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So, for you, Jonas Gutierrez must absolutely be a starter in your team ?

 

I think in the long term, Marveaux will be the starter in the left. He's ten times better footballer than Jonas and is also known for his work rate.

 

 

no

 

Did you see him play ?

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So, for you, Jonas Gutierrez must absolutely be a starter in your team ?

 

Yeah. Energy, work rate etc.

 

 

And for the goals ratio, it doesn't disturb you ?

 

Doesn't bother me.

 

Look at it this way. There are wide midfielders in the league that may score 12 goals a season, to Jonas' 2 goals. BUT if you took Jonas out of our starting line up we'd concede the difference over the course of a season. He is that important defensively, yet he still wins countless free kicks and moves us up the fields like no ther player we have.

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Guest mimifrench

Always thought Gutierrez was a draft player, feel somrthing strange about him, don't know why.

 

Don't take offense but you are not going to play against teams like Wolves or Blackburn every week, i.e. teams who will miss a lot of goals, chances, etc.

It seems like you have struggled all the second half yesterday and Wolves deserved at least a point.

So that is why you should thinking about bringing some players (like Marveaux and Ben arfa) who will, with their tecnic and ability bring you other things to win a match. Of course, they can't defend like Gutierrez but they have a lot of more offensive capabilities and that is what we ask to a winger, offensive player.

 

It's just to warn you that you won't be lucky every week.

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funny how everyone is now a manager....i will be happy with all wingers as long as they provide wins for the team....

Jonas is going get slaughter when the team fails to score for a few games...or Marveaux if we concede  from the left side due to poor defending.

I say only change players when the forms breaks....it has really proven to work well especially in a competitive squad.

Imo only Ryan deserves to get replace for now(credit to him but he doesnt belong there) , until then we would not know if Jonas or Marveaux or Obertan should start.

 

 

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So, for you, Jonas Gutierrez must absolutely be a starter in your team ?

 

I think in the long term, Marveaux will be the starter in the left. He's ten times better footballer than Jonas and is also known for his work rate.

 

 

no

 

Did you see him play ?

 

started 2 league cup games , and came off the bench a few times in the league, show some potential , but not enough to convince that he's a better footballer than Jonas, look more dangerous going forward but Jonas is miles better in tracking back and defend .

 

10 times better ?

:yao:

 

if there's any truth of that statement, he should've joined Barcelona rather than free signing for us

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