JH Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Krul Taylor Colo Santon Tiote Jonas Cabaye Marv HBA Ba Best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCONA Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Don't understand the debate. Everyones playing too well to be dropped for HBA other than obertan whos useless and should be immediately dropped for HBA! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mimifrench Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Krul Taylor Colo Santon Tiote Jonas Cabaye Marv HBA Ba Best Must admit it's a very sexy team, but only 3 defenders ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Number 9 Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Who needs defenders... we'll just score more goals than they do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I have a solution...........let's just play with 12 players! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGupter Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I have a solution...........let's just play with 12 players! I've seen us do it before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Who needs defenders... we'll just score more goals than they do entertainers return... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I'd like to at least try out the following... http://s1.postimage.org/pxk65osv9/Field.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Enough with the Football Manager bull please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Ba's playing a bit deep like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I'd like to at least try out the following... http://s1.postimage.org/pxk65osv9/Field.jpg Lose 28-0 without a GK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 This all hinges on how well Marveraux can play off the ball and with the ball in his own half and the middle third. I have no doubt that he is a better player than Jonas in the final third. Marveaux is well known in France for his work rate. He defends more than Hatem. You seem to rate Marveaux very highly. I now he is good but i don't rate him that high. Even in Rennes, before his serious injury, he wasn't "excellent". And i never saw him playing off the striker. Before his serious injury, he was "excellent" with Rennes and was knocking the door of national team. I didn't say he played off the strikers, I said he has the ability to do so. I spoke about his free role in the front with Rennes. I rate him highly : Great technician, speed, direct, efficient and more disciplined than Hatem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I'd like to at least try out the following... http://s1.postimage.org/pxk65osv9/Field.jpg Lose 28-0 without a GK Nah, get Taylor to play rush-goalie, innit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I'd like to at least try out the following... http://s3.postimage.org/txfgul5ed/Field.jpg Lose 28-0 without a GK Look again.. (Had an uneasy feeling I'd missed something. ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I don't understand your point : if he's a number 10, then you could play him behind your 2 forwards (so you don't have to drop one of them). But then, if you want to play him off the striker, you should maybe later drop one of the striker and it'll be likely Leon Best. And Ben arfa could also play on the wing... but Gutierrez is there. We don't have the team to be playing a diamond, plus as Chelsea discovered it's a formation that isn't suited to Premier League football. It would be very harsh to drop Best at the moment, so the only option would be to stick Jonas on the right and Ben Arfa on the left. Where does that leave Marveaux though?Nice problem to have mind. On the bench, with Obertan... Marveaux on the bench ?! What a waste of talent ! I heard Pardew talking about a new style of football at Newcastle, different from the kick and rush of last season. A football on the ground, sequences of passes, one-two, one-two-three and you want Marveaux on the bench ?! I repeat what I have already said : In long term - very shortly in fact - and in a natural way, the talent will speak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Love the Ben Arfa v. Marveaux debate. (Can't wait to see either one play a league game). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I don't understand your point : if he's a number 10, then you could play him behind your 2 forwards (so you don't have to drop one of them). But then, if you want to play him off the striker, you should maybe later drop one of the striker and it'll be likely Leon Best. And Ben arfa could also play on the wing... but Gutierrez is there. We don't have the team to be playing a diamond, plus as Chelsea discovered it's a formation that isn't suited to Premier League football. It would be very harsh to drop Best at the moment, so the only option would be to stick Jonas on the right and Ben Arfa on the left. Where does that leave Marveaux though?Nice problem to have mind. On the bench, with Obertan... Marveaux on the bench ?! What a waste of talent ! I heard Pardew talking about a new style of football at Newcastle, different from the kick and rush of last season. A football on the ground, sequences of passes, one-two, one-two-three and you want Marveaux on the bench ?! I repeat what I have already said : In long term - very shortly in fact - and in a natural way, the talent will speak I like how you rate Marveaux Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Number 9 Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 How long has it been since we had a selection dilemma that wasn't "Which one is less shit"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 How long has it been since we had a selection dilemma that wasn't "Which one is less shit"? No, seriously. How long has it been? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mimifrench Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I don't understand your point : if he's a number 10, then you could play him behind your 2 forwards (so you don't have to drop one of them). But then, if you want to play him off the striker, you should maybe later drop one of the striker and it'll be likely Leon Best. And Ben arfa could also play on the wing... but Gutierrez is there. We don't have the team to be playing a diamond, plus as Chelsea discovered it's a formation that isn't suited to Premier League football. It would be very harsh to drop Best at the moment, so the only option would be to stick Jonas on the right and Ben Arfa on the left. Where does that leave Marveaux though?Nice problem to have mind. On the bench, with Obertan... Marveaux on the bench ?! What a waste of talent ! I heard Pardew talking about a new style of football at Newcastle, different from the kick and rush of last season. A football on the ground, sequences of passes, one-two, one-two-three and you want Marveaux on the bench ?! I repeat what I have already said : In long term - very shortly in fact - and in a natural way, the talent will speak Of course i agree with you, Marveaux on the bench would be a waste of talent ! But here in NO they don't want to put Gutierrez on the bench... So you have to make choices. I absolutely think that if Ben arfa and Marveaux are introduced in the team and then you let them settle in a few matches, they'll never return on the bench. In term of natural talent they are above And last thing, Ben arfa is much more better than Marveaux : better dribbler, has an amazing acceleration in a little space and also his excellent vision of the game... Marveaux is good but not THAT good. We have differents points of view but that is what makes the debates better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 << if there's any truth of that statement, he should've joined Barcelona rather than free signing for us>> Pfff... Before his injury last year, Lyon and PSG in France, ManU and Chelsea in England, Fiorentina in Italy, were on him. And don't think that all the players who have joined Barcelona in history are the like of Messi (even Dugarry played for Barca ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 There's always a little bit of fear in PL managers of playing 'too many' luxury/gifted players in the PL. For now because Marv and Bafra aren't fully fit there is a kind of excuse (but they need games soon), but later there will still be the tendency of hardworking players getting preferance over purer footballers. In other words it will be hard for Marveux to shift Guti in the short term and Pardoo will be reticent about dropping one of the 'big men' strikers for Bafra (till we lose a few games/injuries anyway). The good thing about the current situation is that in certain postions really good players are waiting in the wings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I don't understand your point : if he's a number 10, then you could play him behind your 2 forwards (so you don't have to drop one of them). But then, if you want to play him off the striker, you should maybe later drop one of the striker and it'll be likely Leon Best. And Ben arfa could also play on the wing... but Gutierrez is there. We don't have the team to be playing a diamond, plus as Chelsea discovered it's a formation that isn't suited to Premier League football. It would be very harsh to drop Best at the moment, so the only option would be to stick Jonas on the right and Ben Arfa on the left. Where does that leave Marveaux though?Nice problem to have mind. On the bench, with Obertan... Marveaux on the bench ?! What a waste of talent ! I heard Pardew talking about a new style of football at Newcastle, different from the kick and rush of last season. A football on the ground, sequences of passes, one-two, one-two-three and you want Marveaux on the bench ?! I repeat what I have already said : In long term - very shortly in fact - and in a natural way, the talent will speak Of course i agree with you, Marveaux on the bench would be a waste of talent ! But here in NO they don't want to put Gutierrez on the bench... So you have to make choices. I absolutely think that if Ben arfa and Marveaux are introduced in the team and then you let them settle in a few matches, they'll never return on the bench. In term of natural talent they are above And last thing, Ben arfa is much more better than Marveaux : better dribbler, has an amazing acceleration in a little space and also his excellent vision of the game... Marveaux is good but not THAT good. We have differents points of view but that is what makes the debates better Tiote Cabaye Jonas Ben Arfa Marveaux They can all play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I don't think Jonas is going to be shifted; shouldn't be either. We need his help defensively. I suspect that Pardew doesn't rate Best-- at least not as highly as some on here. Won't take much to see him lose his place IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 There's always a little bit of fear in PL managers of playing 'too many' luxury/gifted players in the PL. For now because Marv and Bafra aren't fully fit there is a kind of excuse (but they need games soon), but later there will still be the tendency of hardworking players getting preferance over purer footballers. In other words it will be hard for Marveux to shift Guti in the short term and Pardoo will be reticent about dropping one of the 'big men' strikers for Bafra (till we lose a few games/injuries anyway). The good thing about the current situation is that in certain postions really good players are waiting in the wings. I agree changes to this team will probably only happen when we lose, it would take a brave manager to change a winning team. I think Spurs will be a step too far for one or two players who are currently holding down a first team place so Ben Arfa/Marveaux and Santon will be knocking on the door soon in any case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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