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He needs singling out because he's a brainless idiot that costs us points and contributes nothing in a footballing sense. The rest generally do.

 

Man of the match against the best side in the country...i think that's contributing.

 

Think it's time to do the U-turn, Ronny.

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He's certainly contributing defensively this season and fair play to him but overall not in the way I want from a central midfielder. He isn't my type of player and never will be, so get over it. I grew up watching footballers play there. Rob Lee, Hamann, Speed and Dyer. I want players in there who drive the team forward and support the attack when possible.

 

In fairness to Cheick, his weaknesses aren't exactly negated by the rest of the midfield who create fuck all, with the occasional exception of Cabaye.

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Tiote ran to celebrate with coach John Carver and explained: “I would have loved it to count, the fans are not used to seeing me score. John Carver always tells me that I never score. Every game I say I will try to shoot, but he says “no, no, you need to pass the ball”. I went straight for him to let him join in. When I heard it had not counted it was sad. Maybe next game.”

 

At least they're doing something right. :lol:

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He's certainly contributing defensively this season and fair play to him but overall not in the way I want from a central midfielder. He isn't my type of player and never will be, so get over it. I grew up watching footballers play there. Rob Lee, Hamann, Speed and Dyer. I want players in there who drive the team forward and support the attack when possible.

 

In fairness to Cheick, his weaknesses aren't exactly negated by the rest of the midfield who create fuck all, with the occasional exception of Cabaye.

 

if you don't want to be pulled on shit, then don't stalk the forum making absolute declarations about players which turn out to be bollocks

 

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Tiote ran to celebrate with coach John Carver and explained: “I would have loved it to count, the fans are not used to seeing me score. John Carver always tells me that I never score. Every game I say I will try to shoot, but he says “no, no, you need to pass the ball”. I went straight for him to let him join in. When I heard it had not counted it was sad. Maybe next game.”

 

At least they're doing something right. :lol:

 

 

This is hilarious and gutting at the same time.

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He's certainly contributing defensively this season and fair play to him but overall not in the way I want from a central midfielder. He isn't my type of player and never will be, so get over it. I grew up watching footballers play there. Rob Lee, Hamann, Speed and Dyer. I want players in there who drive the team forward and support the attack when possible.

 

In fairness to Cheick, his weaknesses aren't exactly negated by the rest of the midfield who create fuck all, with the occasional exception of Cabaye.

 

if you don't want to be pulled on shit, then don't stalk the forum making absolute declarations about players which turn out to be bollocks

 

 

You really aren't too bright, are you? Pull me on whatever you want by all means if it helps fills the void on your oil rig, but I won't repeat myself again, dude. I've explained to you that he isn't my type of CM. I'm surprised and impressed that he's not giving away goals and possession like last season but that's as far as it goes.

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He's certainly contributing defensively this season and fair play to him but overall not in the way I want from a central midfielder. He isn't my type of player and never will be, so get over it. I grew up watching footballers play there. Rob Lee, Hamann, Speed and Dyer. I want players in there who drive the team forward and support the attack when possible.

 

In fairness to Cheick, his weaknesses aren't exactly negated by the rest of the midfield who create fuck all, with the occasional exception of Cabaye.

 

if you don't want to be pulled on shit, then don't stalk the forum making absolute declarations about players which turn out to be bollocks

 

 

You really aren't too bright, are you? Pull me on whatever you want by all means if it helps fills the void on your oil rig, but I won't repeat myself again, dude. I've explained to you that he isn't my type of CM. I'm surprised and impressed that he's not giving away goals and possession like last season but that's as far as it goes.

 

:lol: woeful

 

you were wrong, everyone on the forum knows you were wrong, and as you'll not admit it you'd rather deflect and state people aren't intelligent as a means to distract everyone from the fact you were wrong

 

i have vague recollections of you not rating anita as well, but i can't be fucked going back to look

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Actually, i was rather slow to call Tiote out for being rubbish last season. In the end i couldn't avoid it, he was woeful. Soooooooo much better this season though. We look worse without him.

 

I also said i didn't really see what qualities Anita had to force himself into the team (last season). He's looked very good in a 3 man midfield though this season (as long as Tiote is playing).

 

We all make wrong judgements about players. No biggie.

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And everyone knows I'm wrong for wanting a better player in there? For not rating a purely defensive CM? OK. :lol:

 

You aren't changing my mind on this. It's somewhat flattering you seem to want to so strongly, but it's not happening.

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And everyone knows I'm wrong for wanting a better player in there? For not rating a purely defensive CM? OK. :lol:

 

You aren't changing my mind on this. It's somewhat flattering you seem to want to so strongly, but it's not happening.

 

I'm not joining in on this but out of curiousity, did you rate Makelele?

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Yeah. But Makelele was comfortable bringing the ball forward, and he had 5 supreme attacking players in front of him.

 

He did have better players around him, for sure. He never really brought the ball forward though iirc. When Madrid sold him they said they wouldn't miss him:

 

 

“We will not miss Makelele. His technique is average, he lacks the speed and skill to take the ball past opponents, and ninety percent of his distribution either goes backwards or sideways. He wasn’t a header of the ball and he rarely passed the ball more than three metres.”

 

 

They missed him a lot though!

 

I don't think Tiote has Makelele's positional intelligence and calmness but, there is a role for that type of player. It's just that when you have that type of player it's meant to give license to your other players to attack but Pardew doesn't have the stones to allow that.

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