Ryan_Taylor Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Definitely more shooting in his future then. Great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Just needs to get doing that funny running thing again and he'll be completely back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 He's certainly contributing defensively this season and fair play to him but overall not in the way I want from a central midfielder. He isn't my type of player and never will be, so get over it. I grew up watching footballers play there. Rob Lee, Hamann, Speed and Dyer. I want players in there who drive the team forward and support the attack when possible. In fairness to Cheick, his weaknesses aren't exactly negated by the rest of the midfield who create fuck all, with the occasional exception of Cabaye. if you don't want to be pulled on shit, then don't stalk the forum making absolute declarations about players which turn out to be bollocks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 For every Bobby Charlton there is a Nobby Stiles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/premier-league-drop-offside-row-referee-3019925 Tiote ran to celebrate with coach John Carver and explained: “I would have loved it to count, the fans are not used to seeing me score. John Carver always tells me that I never score. Every game I say I will try to shoot, but he says “no, no, you need to pass the ball”. I went straight for him to let him join in. When I heard it had not counted it was sad. Maybe next game.” At least they're doing something right. This is hilarious and gutting at the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 He's certainly contributing defensively this season and fair play to him but overall not in the way I want from a central midfielder. He isn't my type of player and never will be, so get over it. I grew up watching footballers play there. Rob Lee, Hamann, Speed and Dyer. I want players in there who drive the team forward and support the attack when possible. In fairness to Cheick, his weaknesses aren't exactly negated by the rest of the midfield who create fuck all, with the occasional exception of Cabaye. if you don't want to be pulled on shit, then don't stalk the forum making absolute declarations about players which turn out to be bollocks You really aren't too bright, are you? Pull me on whatever you want by all means if it helps fills the void on your oil rig, but I won't repeat myself again, dude. I've explained to you that he isn't my type of CM. I'm surprised and impressed that he's not giving away goals and possession like last season but that's as far as it goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I never realised this Smiley is actually called 'Ronaldo'. That works out well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Been saving that for a special occasion? Stick to what you know, eh? Like making absurd points about Alan Pardew and pretending to be something you're not on internet forums. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Internet throw down! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 He's certainly contributing defensively this season and fair play to him but overall not in the way I want from a central midfielder. He isn't my type of player and never will be, so get over it. I grew up watching footballers play there. Rob Lee, Hamann, Speed and Dyer. I want players in there who drive the team forward and support the attack when possible. In fairness to Cheick, his weaknesses aren't exactly negated by the rest of the midfield who create fuck all, with the occasional exception of Cabaye. if you don't want to be pulled on shit, then don't stalk the forum making absolute declarations about players which turn out to be bollocks You really aren't too bright, are you? Pull me on whatever you want by all means if it helps fills the void on your oil rig, but I won't repeat myself again, dude. I've explained to you that he isn't my type of CM. I'm surprised and impressed that he's not giving away goals and possession like last season but that's as far as it goes. woeful you were wrong, everyone on the forum knows you were wrong, and as you'll not admit it you'd rather deflect and state people aren't intelligent as a means to distract everyone from the fact you were wrong i have vague recollections of you not rating anita as well, but i can't be fucked going back to look Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I rate him more than Cheick. Have fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Actually, i was rather slow to call Tiote out for being rubbish last season. In the end i couldn't avoid it, he was woeful. Soooooooo much better this season though. We look worse without him. I also said i didn't really see what qualities Anita had to force himself into the team (last season). He's looked very good in a 3 man midfield though this season (as long as Tiote is playing). We all make wrong judgements about players. No biggie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 tragic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 And everyone knows I'm wrong for wanting a better player in there? For not rating a purely defensive CM? OK. You aren't changing my mind on this. It's somewhat flattering you seem to want to so strongly, but it's not happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 And everyone knows I'm wrong for wanting a better player in there? For not rating a purely defensive CM? OK. You aren't changing my mind on this. It's somewhat flattering you seem to want to so strongly, but it's not happening. I'm not joining in on this but out of curiousity, did you rate Makelele? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Yeah. But Makelele was comfortable bringing the ball forward, and he had 5 supreme attacking players in front of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Yeah. But Makelele was comfortable bringing the ball forward, and he had 5 supreme attacking players in front of him. He did have better players around him, for sure. He never really brought the ball forward though iirc. When Madrid sold him they said they wouldn't miss him: “We will not miss Makelele. His technique is average, he lacks the speed and skill to take the ball past opponents, and ninety percent of his distribution either goes backwards or sideways. He wasn’t a header of the ball and he rarely passed the ball more than three metres.” They missed him a lot though! I don't think Tiote has Makelele's positional intelligence and calmness but, there is a role for that type of player. It's just that when you have that type of player it's meant to give license to your other players to attack but Pardew doesn't have the stones to allow that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Agree Lotus, it is all about using them properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Agree Lotus, it is all about using them properly. which in the case of tiote we are doing now, but were not doing for some time it was there to see, if you wanted to see it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Ronaldo: 'I don't rate them types of players, get over it'... Lotus: 'Did you rate Makelele?'... Ronaldo: 'Yeah' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Yeah. But Makelele was comfortable bringing the ball forward, and he had 5 supreme attacking players in front of him. He did have better players around him, for sure. He never really brought the ball forward though iirc. When Madrid sold him they said they wouldn't miss him: “We will not miss Makelele. His technique is average, he lacks the speed and skill to take the ball past opponents, and ninety percent of his distribution either goes backwards or sideways. He wasn’t a header of the ball and he rarely passed the ball more than three metres.” They missed him a lot though! I don't think Tiote has Makelele's positional intelligence and calmness but, there is a role for that type of player. It's just that when you have that type of player it's meant to give license to your other players to attack but Pardew doesn't have the stones to allow that. Chelsea obviously played a transition game and used him as the main recycler of possession in the opponents half. If you're going to play that type of game you need a hassler in there. When you've got an uncreative midfield and attack to begin with I just think we're compounding the problem in playing a DM. There's a place for him against City and the like and I said that at the start of the season, but at home he'll hold us back more often than not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Ronaldo: 'I don't rate them types of players, get over it'... Lotus: 'Did you rate Makelele?'... Ronaldo: 'Yeah' You do realise you only make yourself look like the utter fool you are with stuff like this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 It's all good, Ron. Taylor is back in the side now, everything's fine on your end. I'll now leave you alone for being completely wrong on Tiote. Have a nice day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Yeah. But Makelele was comfortable bringing the ball forward, and he had 5 supreme attacking players in front of him. He did have better players around him, for sure. He never really brought the ball forward though iirc. When Madrid sold him they said they wouldn't miss him: “We will not miss Makelele. His technique is average, he lacks the speed and skill to take the ball past opponents, and ninety percent of his distribution either goes backwards or sideways. He wasn’t a header of the ball and he rarely passed the ball more than three metres.” They missed him a lot though! I don't think Tiote has Makelele's positional intelligence and calmness but, there is a role for that type of player. It's just that when you have that type of player it's meant to give license to your other players to attack but Pardew doesn't have the stones to allow that. Chelsea obviously played a transition game and used him as the main recycler of possession in the opponents half. If you're going to play that type of game you need a hassler in there. When you've got an uncreative midfield and attack to begin with I just think we're compounding the problem in playing a DM. There's a place for him against City and the like and I said that at the start of the season, but at home he'll hold us back more often than not. I know what you mean re the uncreative offensive part of our game but I guess if we're not creative we need to be frugal at our end of the pitch. Kind of catch 22 really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Yeah. But Makelele was comfortable bringing the ball forward, and he had 5 supreme attacking players in front of him. He did have better players around him, for sure. He never really brought the ball forward though iirc. When Madrid sold him they said they wouldn't miss him: “We will not miss Makelele. His technique is average, he lacks the speed and skill to take the ball past opponents, and ninety percent of his distribution either goes backwards or sideways. He wasn’t a header of the ball and he rarely passed the ball more than three metres.” They missed him a lot though! I don't think Tiote has Makelele's positional intelligence and calmness but, there is a role for that type of player. It's just that when you have that type of player it's meant to give license to your other players to attack but Pardew doesn't have the stones to allow that. Chelsea obviously played a transition game and used him as the main recycler of possession in the opponents half. If you're going to play that type of game you need a hassler in there. When you've got an uncreative midfield and attack to begin with I just think we're compounding the problem in playing a DM. There's a place for him against City and the like and I said that at the start of the season, but at home he'll hold us back more often than not. Thing is, we don't look quite as useful when Tiote's not playing (this season). We should be more creative but that's squarely down to the coaching and preparation. We're not a pass and move team despite having enough players to be so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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