bowlingcrofty Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Am I going mad here or is it not the responsibility of the person who wants the visa to sort it out?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocho Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Am I going mad here or is it not the responsibility of the person who wants the visa to sort it out?! I'd blame the club. I have to get CRB checked and it's the responsibility of my employer to tell me when it's due for renewal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Makes you wonder why he application didn't go in earlier..... Nothing to do with the club though obviously. Perish the thought. Not us boss.... Pricks. Stil don't see how you can say this when we have no idea when an application went in, or even if it could go in before Tiote presented himself at the embassy. You think this was planned like this by the club? To have our best midfielder training by himself, missing pre-season games while this is getting sorted? It's an admin fuck up. The club should have realised months ago that they had to renew his visa but did nothing about it until he tried to fly back into the country from the US. Its a shambles. He didn't try to fly back into the country though. The plan from the start was for him to fly direct to Ghana post the preseason tour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I'd expect 99% of clubs to sort paperwork like this out for the player. It's not like he applied for the job of DM after sending a cv into Llambias. We wanted him so we should have done everything necessary. The club fucked up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Makes you wonder why he application didn't go in earlier..... Nothing to do with the club though obviously. Perish the thought. Not us boss.... Pricks. Stil don't see how you can say this when we have no idea when an application went in, or even if it could go in before Tiote presented himself at the embassy. You think this was planned like this by the club? To have our best midfielder training by himself, missing pre-season games while this is getting sorted? It's an admin fuck up. The club should have realised months ago that they had to renew his visa but did nothing about it until he tried to fly back into the country from the US. Its a shambles. He didn't try to fly back into the country though. The plan from the start was for him to fly direct to Ghana post the preseason tour. Why not do it over the summer then? Why fuck up his pre-season preparations to deal with this shit? Doesn't add up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Didn't know we had to whipe his a$$ for him too. I get it, hes a professional footballer, arguably our best player - but its 50/50 here, for all the details that are out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I'd expect 99% of clubs to sort paperwork like this out for the player. It's not like he applied for the job of DM after sending a cv into Llambias. We wanted him so we should have done everything necessary. The club fucked up. And they have. All that was then required was for the player to present himself to the embassy and the Ivorians to do their shit that end. /No doubt Mike was adverse to paying the inevitable bribes mind. //I still have nightmares about getting out of a country by wrangling a dodgy tourist Visa, fucked if I'm going back there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Makes you wonder why he application didn't go in earlier..... Nothing to do with the club though obviously. Perish the thought. Not us boss.... Pricks. Stil don't see how you can say this when we have no idea when an application went in, or even if it could go in before Tiote presented himself at the embassy. You think this was planned like this by the club? To have our best midfielder training by himself, missing pre-season games while this is getting sorted? It's an admin fuck up. The club should have realised months ago that they had to renew his visa but did nothing about it until he tried to fly back into the country from the US. Its a shambles. He didn't try to fly back into the country though. The plan from the start was for him to fly direct to Ghana post the preseason tour. Why not do it over the summer then? Why fuck up his pre-season preparations to deal with this shit? Doesn't add up. That's the only thing really, and I agree. I presume they had been advised that it would have been a pretty straightforward and quick procedure. And to be fair, it probably should have been. /Once you're there at the mercy of bureaucrats though... *shudder* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I'd expect 99% of clubs to sort paperwork like this out for the player. It's not like he applied for the job of DM after sending a cv into Llambias. We wanted him so we should have done everything necessary. The club fucked up. And they have. All that was then required was for the player to present himself to the embassy and the Ivorians to do their shit that end. /No doubt Mike was adverse to paying the inevitable bribes mind. //I still have nightmares about getting out of a country by wrangling a dodgy tourist Visa, fucked if I'm going back there. So why does this only happen to us? What are other clubs doing that we aren't to avoid this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocho Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Doing it in the summer before pre season starts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Presumably Yaya Toure went through the same process. Both Ivorians signed last summer after all.... Maybe they're playing keepy-uppy together? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I'd expect 99% of clubs to sort paperwork like this out for the player. It's not like he applied for the job of DM after sending a cv into Llambias. We wanted him so we should have done everything necessary. The club fucked up. And they have. All that was then required was for the player to present himself to the embassy and the Ivorians to do their shit that end. /No doubt Mike was adverse to paying the inevitable bribes mind. //I still have nightmares about getting out of a country by wrangling a dodgy tourist Visa, fucked if I'm going back there. So why does this only happen to us? What are other clubs doing that we aren't to avoid this? No idea about other clubs, but then I certainly doubt many, if any, suporters of other clubs know about Tiotes case. It's not in the national press is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I'd expect 99% of clubs to sort paperwork like this out for the player. It's not like he applied for the job of DM after sending a cv into Llambias. We wanted him so we should have done everything necessary. The club fucked up. And they have. All that was then required was for the player to present himself to the embassy and the Ivorians to do their shit that end. /No doubt Mike was adverse to paying the inevitable bribes mind. //I still have nightmares about getting out of a country by wrangling a dodgy tourist Visa, fucked if I'm going back there. So why does this only happen to us? What are other clubs doing that we aren't to avoid this? No idea about other clubs, but then I certainly doubt many, if any, suporters of other clubs know about Tiotes case. It's not in the national press is it? I bet Wenger knows. And Bruce for that matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I'd expect 99% of clubs to sort paperwork like this out for the player. It's not like he applied for the job of DM after sending a cv into Llambias. We wanted him so we should have done everything necessary. The club fucked up. And they have. All that was then required was for the player to present himself to the embassy and the Ivorians to do their shit that end. /No doubt Mike was adverse to paying the inevitable bribes mind. //I still have nightmares about getting out of a country by wrangling a dodgy tourist Visa, fucked if I'm going back there. So why does this only happen to us? What are other clubs doing that we aren't to avoid this? No idea about other clubs, but then I certainly doubt many, if any, suporters of other clubs know about Tiotes case. It's not in the national press is it? I bet Wenger knows. And Bruce for that matter. Meh, whatever, let's just hope he's back as soon as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I'd expect 99% of clubs to sort paperwork like this out for the player. It's not like he applied for the job of DM after sending a cv into Llambias. We wanted him so we should have done everything necessary. The club fucked up. And they have. All that was then required was for the player to present himself to the embassy and the Ivorians to do their shit that end. /No doubt Mike was adverse to paying the inevitable bribes mind. //I still have nightmares about getting out of a country by wrangling a dodgy tourist Visa, fucked if I'm going back there. So why does this only happen to us? What are other clubs doing that we aren't to avoid this? No idea about other clubs, but then I certainly doubt many, if any, suporters of other clubs know about Tiotes case. It's not in the national press is it? I bet Wenger knows. And Bruce for that matter. So that's a no then, it more than likely isn't just us. You're asking me to answer that question for every other football fan? The managers of the opposition who we play imminently will know. Nice edit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Initial applications To be eligible for a work permit: a player must have played for his country in at least 75% of its competitive 'A' team matches he was available for selection, during the two years preceding the date of the application; and the player's country must be at or above 70th place in the official FIFA world rankings when averaged over the two years preceding the date of the application. Had Tiote, when he signed for us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocho Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Initial applications To be eligible for a work permit: a player must have played for his country in at least 75% of its competitive 'A' team matches he was available for selection, during the two years preceding the date of the application; and the player's country must be at or above 70th place in the official FIFA world rankings when averaged over the two years preceding the date of the application. Had Tiote, when he signed for us? Surely he must have, otherwise his work permit would have been rejected first time round? And he must have had a work permit to play for FC Twente too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 You're asking me to answer that question for every other football fan? The managers of the opposition who we play imminently will know. Nice edit. Not going to get into an arguement over it. /was just pointing out that 'why is it only us' is more than likely not to be the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Initial applications To be eligible for a work permit: a player must have played for his country in at least 75% of its competitive 'A' team matches he was available for selection, during the two years preceding the date of the application; and the player's country must be at or above 70th place in the official FIFA world rankings when averaged over the two years preceding the date of the application. Had Tiote, when he signed for us? Surely he must have, otherwise his work permit would have been rejected first time round? And he must have had a work permit to play for FC Twente too. Fairly sure the Dutch are a bit more liberal in terms of visas. He started every game in the World Cup, and featured in all three ACN games earlier in 2010. Maybe NUFC just got some two bob settlement visa together last summer, and now its fucked itself... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Initial applications To be eligible for a work permit: a player must have played for his country in at least 75% of its competitive 'A' team matches he was available for selection, during the two years preceding the date of the application; and the player's country must be at or above 70th place in the official FIFA world rankings when averaged over the two years preceding the date of the application. Had Tiote, when he signed for us? Surely he must have, otherwise his work permit would have been rejected first time round? And he must have had a work permit to play for FC Twente too. Fairly sure the Dutch are a bit more liberal in terms of visas. He started every game in the World Cup, and featured in all three ACN games earlier in 2010. Maybe NUFC just got some two bob settlement visa together last summer, and now its fucked itself... To renew a visa you just have to have played in 75% of your clubs game you were eligible for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Initial applications To be eligible for a work permit: a player must have played for his country in at least 75% of its competitive 'A' team matches he was available for selection, during the two years preceding the date of the application; and the player's country must be at or above 70th place in the official FIFA world rankings when averaged over the two years preceding the date of the application. Had Tiote, when he signed for us? Surely he must have, otherwise his work permit would have been rejected first time round? And he must have had a work permit to play for FC Twente too. Fairly sure the Dutch are a bit more liberal in terms of visas. He started every game in the World Cup, and featured in all three ACN games earlier in 2010. Maybe NUFC just got some two bob settlement visa together last summer, and now its fucked itself... To renew a visa you just have to have played in 75% of your clubs game you were eligible for. Has he? I asked earlier in the thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Boy Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I wonder what percentage of tiotes wages go to his agent every month, and just what role he has played in this. As plenty have said, to have tiote over there for more than a day or two is disgraceful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Not expected to return in time for Arsenal. Top work chaps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 It is absolute unforgivable. We're talking basics here. Fucking hell, this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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