Tooj Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Put a shift in for the team today, when he had a distinct lack of support. No goal threat mind, as Ronaldo said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Aye, that about sums it up. He did his job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 In difficult circumstances, with heaps of pressure, did himself very proud. Really, really pleased with that performance. Justified starting ahead of Ba today (who has so far looked a bit off the pace). Well done Shola, sorry you didn't add to your strike rate! So far being a unfortunate pre-season and 45 minutes of the season? Yes. Not saying he's finished/permanently shite. Just that I'd prefer to ease him into things/not start him up front by himself in a derby while he's off the pace. Misuse of the '' smiley, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 No hint of a goal threat, as usual, but played pretty well. Put a shift in for the team today, when he had a distinct lack of support. No goal threat mind, as Ronaldo said. Aye, that about sums it up. He did his job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 In difficult circumstances, with heaps of pressure, did himself very proud. Really, really pleased with that performance. Justified starting ahead of Ba today (who has so far looked a bit off the pace). Well done Shola, sorry you didn't add to your strike rate! So far being a unfortunate pre-season and 45 minutes of the season? Yes. Not saying he's finished/permanently shite. Just that I'd prefer to ease him into things/not start him up front by himself in a derby while he's off the pace. Misuse of the '' smiley, tbh. Never misuse it He is our best forward, has already shown he can do it in the league, just because he didn't do it against a side that keeps possesion against the majority of the league so got very little service doesn't mean he should be eased in, imo. We should play our best players whenever we can, he has nothing to prove and no reason to "make up" for anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 If you're in bad form in the present, you're in bad form. Nothing to do with your past record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Like Raylor, did okay but hopefully we're seeing him start for the last time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 No hint of a goal threat, as usual, but played pretty well. To be fair, he headed the ball toward goal, which Barton headed on and Larsson 'saved'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Apparently handled it .....according to the mongs of course Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 If you're in bad form in the present, you're in bad form. Nothing to do with your past record. How is half a premier league game bad form in the present? We would swap round the team every game if we judged everyone on 45 minutes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Erm, Kansas? Columbus Crew? Leeds? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Erm, Kansas? Columbus Crew? Leeds? All pre-season which mean fuck all tbh, I remember Duff scoring a hattrick one pre-season, he didn't go on to be brilliant that season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 We need to find a way of playing which utilises Ba's strengths. Shola for all he played well yesterday never looks like scoring and Ba's record suggests he will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Yes, but everyone else in the first team has come on since those games and got their fitness up. I don't say this to be critical of Demba Ba or write him off in any way. So just to clarify - we're talking about fitness and sharpness. Everyone else has demonstrated that (at least to some degree). I'm sure Ba will be fine, he just hasn't shown it on the pitch yet (or presumably to Pardew in training). Seems like you're arguing for the sake of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Yes, but everyone else in the first team has come on since those games and got their fitness up. I don't say this to be critical of Demba Ba or write him off in any way. So just to clarify - we're talking about fitness and sharpness. Everyone else has demonstrated that (at least to some degree). I'm sure Ba will be fine, he just hasn't shown it on the pitch yet (or presumably to Pardew in training). Seems like you're arguing for the sake of it. Not at all, so Shola has looked sharp? You may argue he has looked sharper than Ba, which I would disagree with but that's by the by but I find it ludicrous that we can opt for Shola based on him being better in pre-season/against Arsenal ahead of Ba who has been a prolific goalscorer his entire career. If Shola had been tearing it up I would understand but he simply hasn't. If that comes across as arguing for the sake of it I apologise but that's my honest opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Whatever man. If you honestly believe Ba has looked anywhere near fit then there is no more for us to talk about! Also, it's not ludicrous to put in someone of lower quality if he's fitter than his team mate. Might as well have started Shearer up front yesterday under that logic. [Forgive the exaggeration, but I hope you see the underlying truth to starting someone who is sharp/playing well over someone who isn't sharp/not playing well even if the second person is a better player on their day]. My parting shot would be that (most of) Shola's biggest enemies on here recognised he was up for it yesterday and put in a good performance. Justified his spot IMO. If Ba tears it up in training like a ferret on acid this coming week, then great - start him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Don't completely agree with what you said but I don't think Shola and Ba look much different in terms of fitness/sharpness and Ba is the better player, however the "up for it" factor is a very good point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hobshobs Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Put a shift in for the team today, when he had a distinct lack of support. No goal threat mind, as Ronaldo said. I agree...................................... if putting a shift in = unable to control the ball, standing off the pitch to take a pass, constantly offside, slow, lazy and totally f***** useless. Yes indeed, the normal Shola shift. A complete and utter waste of space. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 showed poor work rate as usual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 showed poor work rate as usual. That was the only thing he did well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 showed poor work rate as usual. That was the only thing he did well You mean standing there like a lazy fuck? Enough of this shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Enough! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 showed poor work rate as usual. That was the only thing he did well You mean standing there like a lazy f***? Enough of this s***. Sorry, I meant well for Shola. Seemed less lazy than usual Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 showed poor work rate as usual. Bollocks. By all means criticise but if you just throw in aimless insults it's meaningless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Think it was the Guardian that had him as the worst passer of the day, 9 completed out of 20. Still did enough from what I saw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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