ujpest doza Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 gerrin. Love him to bits, he scares the shit of defenders running at them and frees space for others because teams double up on him. fit as a lop, played more games than any other player last season as well. come on Captain Colo, follow suit please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Good pro who doesn't run his mouth, excellent fitness, excellent workrate, good and consistent performer and hey presto! New contract. Quelle surprise. yeah very good pro he keeps his head down and works, very limited as a player though Not sure about limited, like. He is. Lets not fool ourselves. I agree with his professionalism, work rate and fitness though. And he is an above average dribbler/carrier of the ball (as pure dribbling, none efficiency involved @ assist/goal) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Good pro who doesn't run his mouth, excellent fitness, excellent workrate, good and consistent performer and hey presto! New contract. Quelle surprise. yeah very good pro he keeps his head down and works, very limited as a player though Not sure about limited, like. He is. Lets not fool ourselves. I agree with his professionalism, work rate and fitness though. And he is an above average dribbler/carrier of the ball (as pure dribbling, none efficiency involved @ assist/goal) He clearly is, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Good pro who doesn't run his mouth, excellent fitness, excellent workrate, good and consistent performer and hey presto! New contract. Quelle surprise. yeah very good pro he keeps his head down and works, very limited as a player though Not sure about limited, like. He is. Lets not fool ourselves. I agree with his professionalism, work rate and fitness though. And he is an above average dribbler/carrier of the ball (as pure dribbling, none efficiency involved @ assist/goal) If you're definition of a limited footballer is anyone who's not good enough to play for a top four club then yes, Jonas is limited. If he had CL standard finishing and assist levels he wouldn't be here, he'd be at Chelsea or Inter Milan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Good pro who doesn't run his mouth, excellent fitness, excellent workrate, good and consistent performer and hey presto! New contract. Quelle surprise. yeah very good pro he keeps his head down and works, very limited as a player though Not sure about limited, like. He is. Lets not fool ourselves. I agree with his professionalism, work rate and fitness though. And he is an above average dribbler/carrier of the ball (as pure dribbling, none efficiency involved @ assist/goal) If you're definition of a limited footballer is anyone who's not good enough to play for a top four club then yes, Jonas is limited. If he had CL standard finishing and assist levels he wouldn't be here, he'd be at Chelsea or Inter Milan. My definition of a limited winger would be one that can't cross, pass or shoot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I would define it as limited attributes in his preferred position. Attributes that usually are significant when playing as a winger. And as I've said before, I think he would be a class wingback in a Napoli-style formation, because of his work rate and stamina. But it is his lacking abilities deliverance-and-determination wise that has left me frustrated countless times. I'm not saying he can't improve these skills, and I think he's started this season great. Also to the extended contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Hmm this is why my spidey sense was tingling this afternoon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Interesting point IMO, was David Beckham limited because he could only cross and pass brilliantly and he couldn't dribble or carry the ball? Maybe he was, but he was still a brilliant player. I know Jonas has weaknesses, but overall the only conclusion I can come to is that he's good to watch and very important to the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Really pumped about this. Didn't see it coming at all. Really hopefully about Colo now, although it's definitely a trickier renegotiation based on his reported wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Well, he lacked pace, but when your crossing and passing-game is that superior to it (in either side of the midfield), he's fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Interesting point IMO, was David Beckham limited because he could only cross and pass brilliantly and he couldn't dribble or carry the ball? Maybe he was, but he was still a brilliant player. I know Jonas has weaknesses, but overall the only conclusion I can come to is that he's good to watch and very important to the team. If Beckham could only cross averagely and pass averagely: he would've been hopeless. The fact that he was exceptional at both of those things made him a great player. What is Jonas's exceptional attribute other than hairiness? And it's not like I dislike him: he's a fine player for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Good sign that he signed a new contract tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Don't really think he's limited to just the 'free kick winning ball carrier' guy though. He can cross and I think with movement around him he will show he has an eye for a clever pass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 that reverse pass for hba in the weekend was genius to be fair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Good pro who doesn't run his mouth, excellent fitness, excellent workrate, good and consistent performer and hey presto! New contract. Quelle surprise. yeah very good pro he keeps his head down and works, very limited as a player though Not sure about limited, like. He is. Lets not fool ourselves. I agree with his professionalism, work rate and fitness though. And he is an above average dribbler/carrier of the ball (as pure dribbling, none efficiency involved @ assist/goal) If you're definition of a limited footballer is anyone who's not good enough to play for a top four club then yes, Jonas is limited. If he had CL standard finishing and assist levels he wouldn't be here, he'd be at Chelsea or Inter Milan. My definition of a limited winger would be one that can't cross, pass or shoot. Think he's going to look better with the better players (and movement) around him. One of the reasons he's often frustrated us, imo, is he doesn't cope too well with being doubled up on. The less that happens the more he'll shine. That reverse pass through to Ben Arfa's run surprised the hell out of me anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest michaelfoster Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Good pro who doesn't run his mouth, excellent fitness, excellent workrate, good and consistent performer and hey presto! New contract. Quelle surprise. yeah very good pro he keeps his head down and works, very limited as a player though Not sure about limited, like. He is. Lets not fool ourselves. I agree with his professionalism, work rate and fitness though. And he is an above average dribbler/carrier of the ball (as pure dribbling, none efficiency involved @ assist/goal) If you're definition of a limited footballer is anyone who's not good enough to play for a top four club then yes, Jonas is limited. If he had CL standard finishing and assist levels he wouldn't be here, he'd be at Chelsea or Inter Milan. His crossing & finishing are pretty poor tbh. He has decent dribbling, work rate and pace and average at most other things. He does come accross as a professional who keeps his head down on the training ground though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Interesting point IMO, was David Beckham limited because he could only cross and pass brilliantly and he couldn't dribble or carry the ball? Maybe he was, but he was still a brilliant player. I know Jonas has weaknesses, but overall the only conclusion I can come to is that he's good to watch and very important to the team. If Beckham could only cross averagely and pass averagely: he would've been hopeless. The fact that he was exceptional at both of those things made him a great player. What is Jonas's exceptional attribute other than hairiness? And it's not like I dislike him: he's a fine player for us. If he's a fine player for us then that's all that matters at the end of the day. Arguing the toss over exceptional or limited isn't really a major issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 great news - lovinng this club again at the moment ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Pardew can take a great deal of credit for this mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 just reading this thread.......... i have to shake my head at some of the stupidity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 just reading this thread.......... i have to shake my head at some of the stupidity Give us a clue. The positive stupidity or the negative stupidity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Need to get some of these dotted about SJP... http://www.flagsofallcountries.com/South_America/Argentina/argentina2_mw.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 just reading this thread.......... i have to shake my head at some of the stupidity Give us a clue. The positive stupidity or the negative stupidity. limited ability and the beckham nonsense.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 JamieMnufc Jamie Marshall @elgalgojonas how come your getting a new contract!? your s***! ben arfa and marveaux are better, just leave the club will you?! f***'s sake. f***ing prick. Yeah! Let's give these players that have been here less than a year new contracts instead! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Simply great news, in many ways Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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