Guest BooBoo Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Mick- Nobdy is demanding instant success. I was referring to the reputation other fans have given us of "Oh you know those Geordies, they'll want him out if they're not in Europe/ winning a trophy in his first five games" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 I think anybody expecting a newly promoted team to win at WHL is demanding instant success I don't think anyone was expecting a win before the game, most people were expecting a loss and a lot were expecting a heavy loss. The way the game went though you should be able to understand peoples frustrations. The decisions and football played after the red cost us any chance of getting anything out of this, we were given a good opportunity but mistakes threw that away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Mick- Nobdy is demanding instant success. I was referring to the reputation other fans have given us of "Oh you know those Geordies, they'll want him out if they're not in Europe/ winning a trophy in his first five games" Some people are seeing the criticisms levelled at the lack of a win. Not with me. The beef i've got is the fact is with the negative tactics adopted by Pardew that dont fill you with confidence when faced with a similar situation needing a savvy change in future i.e opposition down to ten men, 2-0 down. Thats where I worry about the progression form Hughton (sorry to re-mention ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 I think anybody expecting a newly promoted team to win at WHL is demanding instant success Don't be daft, we've set out a negative team against a Spurs team who before today had only managed to stop the opposition scoring once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 I think anybody expecting a newly promoted team to win at WHL is demanding instant success Agreed. But I think anybody expecting the club NOT to be in a situation where a decent manager was sacked for an equal/poorer manager who has to start all over again, realising James Perch is wank, and costing us points is being reasonable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Anyone calling pardew after another decent performance really needs to check their heads. Pardew had fuck all on the bench to play with, he changed it straight away after the sending off. If your going to blame anyone blame Hughton for signing that piece of crap Perch. A decent performance? WHAT THE FUCK? We created NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING in the whole 94 minutes..... aye pretty decent effort... Hmm, what fucking game were you watching idiot. I seem to remember a good few openings 1st half and 2nd half as well. And exactly what did spurs create. Irony meter off the scale.....called an idiot by neesy..I'll just kill myself right now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Most ppl on here with the over reaction to losing 2-0 v spurs who are in the last 16 in the champions league remember. Spurs being in the last 16 has nothing to do with our result today, we set up negatively and we didn't do enough to try and win the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 I think anybody expecting a newly promoted team to win at WHL is demanding instant success Don't be daft, we've set out a negative team against a Spurs team who before today had only managed to stop the opposition scoring once. They rip teams apart on the counter, and supposedly teams have achieved more success by sitting back at WHL. If we'd had a go and lost 4-0 people would be even less happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Anyone calling pardew after another decent performance really needs to check their heads. Pardew had fuck all on the bench to play with, he changed it straight away after the sending off. If your going to blame anyone blame Hughton for signing that piece of crap Perch. A decent performance? WHAT THE FUCK? We created NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING in the whole 94 minutes..... aye pretty decent effort... Hmm, what fucking game were you watching idiot. I seem to remember a good few openings 1st half and 2nd half as well. And exactly what did spurs create. Irony meter off the scale.....called an idiot by neesy..I'll just kill myself right now Erm, he's right though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Most ppl on here with the over reaction to losing 2-0 v spurs who are in the last 16 in the champions league remember. Spurs being in the last 16 has nothing to do with our result today, we set up negatively and we didn't do enough to try and win the game. We played within our means, which obviously wasn't enough. Please lower your expectations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 tbh, everyone expected us to lose before the game, some expected 4 or 5 nil defeats. I think it has just shown we have backup players who are not up to the standard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 I think anybody expecting a newly promoted team to win at WHL is demanding instant success Don't be daft, we've set out a negative team against a Spurs team who before today had only managed to stop the opposition scoring once. With what??? There was nothing in the squad available to do anything more than what we could have done today. We went to restrict spurs which we did if Taylor and Perch would decide to tackle any players we would of stopped them scoring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 tbh, everyone expected us to lose before the game, some expected 4 or 5 nil defeats. I think it has just shown we have backup players who are not up to the standard. Exactly, even though we didn't really need this game to tell us that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 I think anybody expecting a newly promoted team to win at WHL is demanding instant success Don't be daft, we've set out a negative team against a Spurs team who before today had only managed to stop the opposition scoring once. They rip teams apart on the counter, and supposedly teams have achieved more success by sitting back at WHL. If we'd had a go and lost 4-0 people would be even less happy. Exactly, thats why we still need to leave Tiote and Smith on because we were always vulnerable on the counter attack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 tbh, everyone expected us to lose before the game, some expected 4 or 5 nil defeats. I think it has just shown we have backup players who are not up to the standard. And a manager who has seemingly learnt precisely nothing from his predecessor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 I think anybody expecting a newly promoted team to win at WHL is demanding instant success Don't be daft, we've set out a negative team against a Spurs team who before today had only managed to stop the opposition scoring once. They rip teams apart on the counter, and supposedly teams have achieved more success by sitting back at WHL. If we'd had a go and lost 4-0 people would be even less happy. Exactly, thats why we still need to leave Tiote and Smith on because we were always vulnerable on the counter attack. By further nullfying our own and defending a 2-0 defeat? whats the point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 I think anybody expecting a newly promoted team to win at WHL is demanding instant success Don't be daft, we've set out a negative team against a Spurs team who before today had only managed to stop the opposition scoring once. They rip teams apart on the counter, and supposedly teams have achieved more success by sitting back at WHL. If we'd had a go and lost 4-0 people would be even less happy. Exactly, thats why we still need to leave Tiote and Smith on because we were always vulnerable on the counter attack. So the game plan was to try and hold on to the 1-0? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 I think anybody expecting a newly promoted team to win at WHL is demanding instant success Don't be daft, we've set out a negative team against a Spurs team who before today had only managed to stop the opposition scoring once. They rip teams apart on the counter, and supposedly teams have achieved more success by sitting back at WHL. If we'd had a go and lost 4-0 people would be even less happy. Exactly, thats why we still need to leave Tiote and Smith on because we were always vulnerable on the counter attack. So the game plan was to try and hold on to the 1-0? Whilst I would have brought Smith off, we did bring a striker on for a winger. The team was clearly more attacking after the change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 It was but it lacked shape and we decided to play everything long which was just pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 I don't agree with leaving the two defensive midfielders on at 1-0 down with them down to 10 but Gutierrez is shite. It goes back to the lack of options, maybe Jonas had an injury or was just shagged out (he covers a lot of ground even if he's shite) but either way, Tiote went off shortly afterwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 They rip teams apart on the counter, and supposedly teams have achieved more success by sitting back at WHL. If we'd had a go and lost 4-0 people would be even less happy. Spurs haven't beaten anybody 4-0 so why should that one come into it? They haven't won by more than 2 goals in any league game that I know about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 I think anybody expecting a newly promoted team to win at WHL is demanding instant success Don't be daft, we've set out a negative team against a Spurs team who before today had only managed to stop the opposition scoring once. They rip teams apart on the counter, and supposedly teams have achieved more success by sitting back at WHL. If we'd had a go and lost 4-0 people would be even less happy. Exactly, thats why we still need to leave Tiote and Smith on because we were always vulnerable on the counter attack. So the game plan was to try and hold on to the 1-0? Anycase if you watched the game, Smith and Tiote played much further forward anycase, so it wasn't even like we played 2 DM's all game. Also Barton & Routledge were playing much further forward than the other 2 midfielders/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 We played within our means, which obviously wasn't enough. Please lower your expectations. What are my expectations? Should I not expect that we'll try to win a game? If that's the case then we might as well just throw the towel in now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 I think anybody expecting a newly promoted team to win at WHL is demanding instant success Don't be daft, we've set out a negative team against a Spurs team who before today had only managed to stop the opposition scoring once. They rip teams apart on the counter, and supposedly teams have achieved more success by sitting back at WHL. If we'd had a go and lost 4-0 people would be even less happy. Exactly, thats why we still need to leave Tiote and Smith on because we were always vulnerable on the counter attack. So the game plan was to try and hold on to the 1-0? Anycase if you watched the game, Smith and Tiote played much further forward anycase, so it wasn't even like we played 2 DM's all game. Also Barton & Routledge were playing much further forward than the other 2 midfielders/ Just because they stood further up the field it doesn't mean they were really playing forwards, Smith doesn't have the capability to do anything of note and Tiote should sit back, win the ball and play it easy as that's his best job. Them wandering forward is another sign that the tactics/shape were fucked tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 They rip teams apart on the counter, and supposedly teams have achieved more success by sitting back at WHL. If we'd had a go and lost 4-0 people would be even less happy. Spurs haven't beaten anybody 4-0 so why should that one come into it? They haven't won by more than 2 goals in any league game that I know about. Bolton hadn't beaten anybody 5-1 until we rocked up. But it hadn't happened before so there's no way it should have happened that day. Right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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