Alan Pardew

[Guest BooBoo]

Whats particualrly baffling is that after the performance at West Brom (still for me this season's low point), Hughton was defended with "well he had no options really", yet when Pardew has his hands equally tied in terms of personell, he gets whipped.

[JH]

Whats particualrly baffling is that after the performance at West Brom (still for me this season's low point), Hughton was defended with "well he had no options really", yet when Pardew has his hands equally tied in terms of personell, he gets whipped.

 

You're actually baffled by that? I always expected it King Chris and all that.

[Guest BooBoo]

I've been guilty for daft over reactions after deafeats, but today's are truly ridiculous.

 

As I've said, nobody wanted Pardew here but lets give him a chance before hammering the bloke. There's little sense of reasonableness in many of the immediate post match posts.

[Amir_9]

I'd be disappointed if we dont get anything from Wigan and West Ham coming up next. Not City and Spurs, even if we lose, we still look nothing like the useless careless bunch of tossers in our relegation season.

[Disco]

I've been guilty for daft over reactions after deafeats, but today's are truly ridiculous.

 

As I've said, nobody wanted Pardew here but lets give him a chance before hammering the bloke. There's little sense of reasonableness in many of the immediate post match posts.

 

My only thoughts are that we seemed to be playing it long a lot more than usual today. Ball gets to midfield, midfield back to defender, hoof. I know we did it a lot anyway but today took the biscuit. Very easy to defend against when everyone else was so far behind AC9

[Mick]

Whats particualrly baffling is that after the performance at West Brom (still for me this season's low point), Hughton was defended with "well he had no options really", yet when Pardew has his hands equally tied in terms of personell, he gets whipped.

 

Hughton didn't have his hands equally tied, Pardew decided not to pick Williamson while Hughton didn't have that choice.  Hughton put out the best side he could and that's beyond argument.  I don't see how that's the case today and Hughton was sacked for the WBA result.

[Guest BooBoo]

Howay man Mick. Hughton wasnt sacked for the WBA result. We know very well that Ashley had wanted him out for a while, hence the no offer of a contract or the reluctance to appoint an assistant manager once Calderwood went.

 

Whilst its personal opinion, I dont really think there's much of a difference between Taylor and Williamson either. Both are reasonable defenders with clear weaknesses.

[TRon]

Howay man Mick. Hughton wasnt sacked for the WBA result. We know very well that Ashley had wanted him out for a while, hence the no offer of a contract or the reluctance to appoint an assistant manager once Calderwood went.

 

Whilst its personal opinion, I dont really think there's much of a difference between Taylor and Williamson either. Both are reasonable defenders with clear weaknesses.

 

But Williamson seems to gel a lot better with Colo as he provides the muscle and Colo the anticipation and reading of the game. Taylor does neither really, but points and waves a lot.

[Ronaldo]

Williamson provides the muscle.

[Guest BooBoo]

Aye Williamson was like Hulk Hogan when trying to contain a leaping Charles N'Zogbia.

[TRon]

Williamson provides the muscle.

 

What else do you think he provides...the finesse?

[Andy]

Taylor is physically better and should be a better defender... However, in terms of awareness, positioning and general defensive judgement, Williamson is streets ahead.

[Ronaldo]

Williamson provides the muscle.

 

What else do you think he provides...the finesse?

 

He's composed, reads the game well and has good timing in the tackle.

[TRon]

Williamson provides the muscle.

 

What else do you think he provides...the finesse?

 

He's composed, reads the game well and has good timing in the tackle.

 

He's not bad in the air either, which is what I was getting at originally. Better than Taylor in any case, and a lot stronger.

[Ronaldo]

He isn't stronger, like.

[Guest BlacknWhiteArmy]

He isn't stronger, like.

No way

[Guest BooBoo]

Williamson's physical feebleness is the major weakness in his overall game.

 

For a big lad, a puff of wind would blow him over.

[Guest BlacknWhiteArmy]

He's pretty thin, needs a bit of muscle on him. In a phsyical battle, I'd have Saylor over Williamson, Williamson will easily get bullied out of games

[TRon]

Like I said, I hope Pardew's judgement on players is proven right.

[JH]

Taylor is physically better and should be a better defender... However, in terms of awareness, positioning and general defensive judgement, Williamson is streets ahead.

 

[madras]

Taylor is physically better and should be a better defender... However, in terms of awareness, positioning and general defensive judgement, Williamson is streets ahead.

 

not based on what we've seen so far.

 

williamson reminds me a bit of andy o'brien in that he dropped no bramble like bollocks but overall wasn't as good as bramble. i see taylor as being as good defensivly thought with differing attributes but much better on the ball and offensivly.

[JH]

Taylor is physically better and should be a better defender... However, in terms of awareness, positioning and general defensive judgement, Williamson is streets ahead.

 

not based on what we've seen so far.

 

williamson reminds me a bit of andy o'brien in that he dropped no bramble like bollocks but overall wasn't as good as bramble. i see taylor as being as good defensivly thought with differing attributes but much better on the ball and offensivly.

 

Offensively, yeah, you can have that - but like I said in another thread, I'd rather we picked the best defenders than the best attacking defenders.

 

In terms of the ball at his feet, it's Williamson for me. I shit myself when Taylor is on the ball, he just doesn't look comfortable at all whilst Willy looks very assured and confident, and keeps it simple. He doesn't set the world alight, but that makes him less prone to mistakes - Taylor tries to do too much IMO.

[Guest palnese]

Taylor is physically better and should be a better defender... However, in terms of awareness, positioning and general defensive judgement, Williamson is streets ahead.

 

not based on what we've seen so far.

 

williamson reminds me a bit of andy o'brien in that he dropped no bramble like bollocks but overall wasn't as good as bramble. i see taylor as being as good defensivly thought with differing attributes but much better on the ball and offensivly.

 

Offensively, yeah, you can have that - but like I said in another thread, I'd rather we picked the best defenders than the best attacking defenders.

 

In terms of the ball at his feet, it's Williamson for me. I shit myself when Taylor is on the ball, he just doesn't look comfortable at all whilst Willy looks very assured and confident, and keeps it simple. He doesn't set the world alight, but that makes him less prone to mistakes - Taylor tries to do too much IMO.

 

You're joking right? Taylor is lightyears ahead of Williamson on the ball.

[Frazzle]

All Taylor did against Man City as well was to give it short to Tiote.

[madras]

Taylor is physically better and should be a better defender... However, in terms of awareness, positioning and general defensive judgement, Williamson is streets ahead.

 

not based on what we've seen so far.

 

williamson reminds me a bit of andy o'brien in that he dropped no bramble like bollocks but overall wasn't as good as bramble. i see taylor as being as good defensivly thought with differing attributes but much better on the ball and offensivly.

 

Offensively, yeah, you can have that - but like I said in another thread, I'd rather we picked the best defenders than the best attacking defenders.

 

In terms of the ball at his feet, it's Williamson for me. I s*** myself when Taylor is on the ball, he just doesn't look comfortable at all whilst Willy looks very assured and confident, and keeps it simple. He doesn't set the world alight, but that makes him less prone to mistakes - Taylor tries to do too much IMO.

yet i'd say taylor gives the ball away less when in possession than williamson does as williamson often clears it where as taylor passes it.

 

ideally with taylor getting more games we may end up in a position where all the centre halves build rapports with each other and we can go horses for courses for example with all fit i'd have played taylor/williamson against bolton.