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I think a few people are grossly underestimating the level of discontent amongst our fans. Lose the derby and the pressure will  be cranked up another couple of notches.

 

Don't get me wrong, I like this board but the feeling between the average poster and the average fan at SJP is often poles apart. Speaking to people at the Arsenal game, people are very fed up.

 

How are the poles apart then? It's suicidal on here at times.

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I think a few people are grossly underestimating the level of discontent amongst our fans. Lose the derby and the pressure will  be cranked up another couple of notches.

 

Don't get me wrong, I like this board but the feeling between the average poster and the average fan at SJP is often poles apart. Speaking to people at the Arsenal game, people are very fed up.

 

How are the poles apart then? It's suicidal on here at times.

 

Nah, only the soopa fans who go to games really see whats going on man!

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I think a few people are grossly underestimating the level of discontent amongst our fans. Lose the derby and the pressure will  be cranked up another couple of notches.

Aye, but on a group that have time and again proven themselves spectacularly uninterested in how discontent the fans are. It'll achieve nowt again, we might protest, Mike might write another soppy tearjerker statement about how those nasty geordies want to eat his kids, he'll get sympathy from the rest of the country and after a month or so we'll be back to square one. It really is a depressingly hopeless situation we're in.
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I think a few people are grossly underestimating the level of discontent amongst our fans. Lose the derby and the pressure will  be cranked up another couple of notches.

 

Don't get me wrong, I like this board but the feeling between the average poster and the average fan at SJP is often poles apart. Speaking to people at the Arsenal game, people are very fed up.

 

Yep. 'real' people are losing patience just as much as folk on here are.

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I think a few people are grossly underestimating the level of discontent amongst our fans. Lose the derby and the pressure will  be cranked up another couple of notches.

 

Don't get me wrong, I like this board but the feeling between the average poster and the average fan at SJP is often poles apart. Speaking to people at the Arsenal game, people are very fed up.

 

How are the poles apart then? It's suicidal on here at times.

 

Try going to the odd game then. There was brainless abuse directed at good players even when we were playing OK on Saturday.

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I think a few people are grossly underestimating the level of discontent amongst our fans. Lose the derby and the pressure will  be cranked up another couple of notches.

 

Don't get me wrong, I like this board but the feeling between the average poster and the average fan at SJP is often poles apart. Speaking to people at the Arsenal game, people are very fed up.

 

How are the poles apart then? It's suicidal on here at times.

 

Try going to the odd game then. There was brainless abuse directed at good players even when we were playing OK on Saturday.

 

It's always been like that though, SJP is a very demanding place to play, just as bad for the home players as the away at times. Has been like that as long as I've been going.

 

I genuinely thought normal people would be happier than people on forums who dissect the minute detail of Luke Edwards' latest tweet or the latest quote from Pardew.

 

And I do go to the odd game BTW, cheers for the tip though.

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I think a few people are grossly underestimating the level of discontent amongst our fans. Lose the derby and the pressure will  be cranked up another couple of notches.

 

Don't get me wrong, I like this board but the feeling between the average poster and the average fan at SJP is often poles apart. Speaking to people at the Arsenal game, people are very fed up.

 

How are the poles apart then? It's suicidal on here at times.

 

Try going to the odd game then. There was brainless abuse directed at good players even when we were playing OK on Saturday.

 

It's always been like that though, SJP is a very demanding place to play, just as bad for the home players as the away at times. Has been like that as long as I've been going.

 

I genuinely thought normal people would be happier than people on forums who dissect the minute detail of Luke Edwards' latest tweet or the latest quote from Pardew.

 

And I do go to the odd game BTW, cheers for the tip though.

 

Must say, I find it thoroughly bizarre that you would think that people as a whole who go to the game and pay a lot of money to do so would be happier seeing the club run like it is than a community of whom a significant number don't go to games regularly or at all. Not a soopafan dig, just completely mind-boggling to me that anyone could have that view on the situation.

 

It's like saying someone who watched the riots on telly would be more annoyed than the bloke who's just had his shop burned down. They're both annoyed but one's got a bit more reason to be.

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I think a few people are grossly underestimating the level of discontent amongst our fans. Lose the derby and the pressure will  be cranked up another couple of notches.

 

Don't get me wrong, I like this board but the feeling between the average poster and the average fan at SJP is often poles apart. Speaking to people at the Arsenal game, people are very fed up.

 

How are the poles apart then? It's suicidal on here at times.

 

Try going to the odd game then. There was brainless abuse directed at good players even when we were playing OK on Saturday.

 

It's always been like that though, SJP is a very demanding place to play, just as bad for the home players as the away at times. Has been like that as long as I've been going.

 

I genuinely thought normal people would be happier than people on forums who dissect the minute detail of Luke Edwards' latest tweet or the latest quote from Pardew.

 

And I do go to the odd game BTW, cheers for the tip though.

 

Must say, I find it thoroughly bizarre that you would think that people as a whole who go to the game and pay a lot of money to do so would be happier seeing the club run like it is than a community of whom a significant number don't go to games regularly or at all. Not a soopafan dig, just completely mind-boggling to me that anyone could have that view on the situation.

 

It's like saying someone who watched the riots on telly would be more annoyed than the bloke who's just had his shop burned down. They're both annoyed but one's got a bit more reason to be.

 

I see what you mean, I just meant that people who judge NUFC mainly based on what they do on the pitch would seem to have to be happier now than any time since the season we got relegated, and maybe the couple before that as well.

 

Not happy compared to when we were in the Champions League obviously, but happier than in most recent seasons.

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I see what you mean, I just meant that people who judge NUFC mainly based on what they do on the pitch would seem to have to be happier now than any time since the season we got relegated, and maybe the couple before that as well.

 

Not happy compared to when we were in the Champions League obviously, but happier than in most recent seasons.

 

I don't know a single person who is happy that Pardew, Llambias or Ashley are at the club, not one.

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People at the games know they're getting the piss taken out of them man. Even those who don't frequent forums and get the latest twitter updates can still see plain as day that we sold our only left back and another one hasn't come in to replace him. If anything they're more pissed off because they don't get all these hopeful little twitter soundbites from Douglas and co about how we're in talks with X and we hope to have Y in by next week.

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I see what you mean, I just meant that people who judge NUFC mainly based on what they do on the pitch would seem to have to be happier now than any time since the season we got relegated, and maybe the couple before that as well.

 

Not happy compared to when we were in the Champions League obviously, but happier than in most recent seasons.

 

I don't know a single person who is happy that Pardew, Llambias or Ashley are at the club, not one.

 

I don't doubt it, I was talking more about performances and results last season. Surely better than most recent seasons, and beyond expectations.

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I think a few people are grossly underestimating the level of discontent amongst our fans. Lose the derby and the pressure will  be cranked up another couple of notches.

 

Don't get me wrong, I like this board but the feeling between the average poster and the average fan at SJP is often poles apart. Speaking to people at the Arsenal game, people are very fed up.

 

How are the poles apart then? It's suicidal on here at times.

 

Try going to the odd game then. There was brainless abuse directed at good players even when we were playing OK on Saturday.

 

It's always been like that though, SJP is a very demanding place to play, just as bad for the home players as the away at times. Has been like that as long as I've been going.

 

I genuinely thought normal people would be happier than people on forums who dissect the minute detail of Luke Edwards' latest tweet or the latest quote from Pardew.

 

And I do go to the odd game BTW, cheers for the tip though.

 

Must say, I find it thoroughly bizarre that you would think that people as a whole who go to the game and pay a lot of money to do so would be happier seeing the club run like it is than a community of whom a significant number don't go to games regularly or at all. Not a soopafan dig, just completely mind-boggling to me that anyone could have that view on the situation.

 

It's like saying someone who watched the riots on telly would be more annoyed than the bloke who's just had his shop burned down. They're both annoyed but one's got a bit more reason to be.

 

I see what you mean, I just meant that people who judge NUFC mainly based on what they do on the pitch would seem to have to be happier now than any time since the season we got relegated, and maybe the couple before that as well.

 

Not happy compared to when we were in the Champions League obviously, but happier than in most recent seasons.

 

That was before the club sold off several of its best players and pocketed the cash Ian. People are happy with gradual progression and at the very least, something to look forward to.

 

There is very little to look forward to this season other than existing.

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I think a few people are grossly underestimating the level of discontent amongst our fans. Lose the derby and the pressure will  be cranked up another couple of notches.

 

Don't get me wrong, I like this board but the feeling between the average poster and the average fan at SJP is often poles apart. Speaking to people at the Arsenal game, people are very fed up.

 

How are the poles apart then? It's suicidal on here at times.

 

Try going to the odd game then. There was brainless abuse directed at good players even when we were playing OK on Saturday.

 

It's always been like that though, SJP is a very demanding place to play, just as bad for the home players as the away at times. Has been like that as long as I've been going.

 

I genuinely thought normal people would be happier than people on forums who dissect the minute detail of Luke Edwards' latest tweet or the latest quote from Pardew.

 

And I do go to the odd game BTW, cheers for the tip though.

 

Must say, I find it thoroughly bizarre that you would think that people as a whole who go to the game and pay a lot of money to do so would be happier seeing the club run like it is than a community of whom a significant number don't go to games regularly or at all. Not a soopafan dig, just completely mind-boggling to me that anyone could have that view on the situation.

 

It's like saying someone who watched the riots on telly would be more annoyed than the bloke who's just had his shop burned down. They're both annoyed but one's got a bit more reason to be.

 

I see what you mean, I just meant that people who judge NUFC mainly based on what they do on the pitch would seem to have to be happier now than any time since the season we got relegated, and maybe the couple before that as well.

 

Not happy compared to when we were in the Champions League obviously, but happier than in most recent seasons.

 

That was before the club sold off several of its best players and pocketed the cash Ian. People are happy with gradual progression and at the very least, something to look forward to.

 

There is very little to look forward to this season other than existing.

 

Well I just have to agree to disagree about that, I think it's possible we could do better this year than last. We need a replacement for Enrique though obviously, and ideally a striker as well, but the window isn't over yet.

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I see what you mean, I just meant that people who judge NUFC mainly based on what they do on the pitch would seem to have to be happier now than any time since the season we got relegated, and maybe the couple before that as well.

 

Not happy compared to when we were in the Champions League obviously, but happier than in most recent seasons.

 

I don't know a single person who is happy that Pardew, Llambias or Ashley are at the club, not one.

 

I don't doubt it, I was talking more about performances and results last season. Surely better than most recent seasons, and beyond expectations.

 

Some of last seasons results were brilliant... before they sacked the manager and sold the best player in a six week period. Since then, it's been on a downward spiral. People tend to notice this sort of stuff.

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I don't have time for real people: where were they during the 2009 Awards debacle? Do they even know who Marley the Dog is?

 

:lol: this little nugget of wisdom was lost within the quote pyramids.

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I see what you mean, I just meant that people who judge NUFC mainly based on what they do on the pitch would seem to have to be happier now than any time since the season we got relegated, and maybe the couple before that as well.

 

Not happy compared to when we were in the Champions League obviously, but happier than in most recent seasons.

 

I don't know a single person who is happy that Pardew, Llambias or Ashley are at the club, not one.

 

I don't doubt it, I was talking more about performances and results last season. Surely better than most recent seasons, and beyond expectations.

 

Some of last seasons results were brilliant... before they sacked the manager and sold the best player in a six week period. Since then, it's been on a downward spiral. People tend to notice this sort of stuff.

 

As I said, just have to agree to disagree about that. IMO, saying that the second half of last season was a "downward spiral" is going way to far. And this season all we've done is draw with Arsenal.

 

Enrique leaving is a non-criticism for me, he just became too good for us at the same time as his contract was ending. These things happen if you aren't as high up the food chain as other clubs.

 

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I don't doubt it, I was talking more about performances and results last season. Surely better than most recent seasons, and beyond expectations.

 

The season was up and running when Pardew joined, I can't think of many positives since he arrived.

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As I said, just have to agree to disagree about that. IMO, saying that the second half of last season was a "downward spiral" is going way to far. And this season all we've done is draw with Arsenal.

 

Enrique leaving is a non-criticism for me, he just became too good for us at the same time as his contract was ending. These things happen if you aren't as high up the food chain as other clubs.

 

 

Enrique was happy here untill Pardew arrived.

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I see what you mean, I just meant that people who judge NUFC mainly based on what they do on the pitch would seem to have to be happier now than any time since the season we got relegated, and maybe the couple before that as well.

 

Not happy compared to when we were in the Champions League obviously, but happier than in most recent seasons.

 

I don't know a single person who is happy that Pardew, Llambias or Ashley are at the club, not one.

 

I don't doubt it, I was talking more about performances and results last season. Surely better than most recent seasons, and beyond expectations.

 

Some of last seasons results were brilliant... before they sacked the manager and sold the best player in a six week period. Since then, it's been on a downward spiral. People tend to notice this sort of stuff.

 

As I said, just have to agree to disagree about that. IMO, saying that the second half of last season was a "downward spiral" is going way to far. And this season all we've done is draw with Arsenal.

 

Enrique leaving is a non-criticism for me, he just became too good for us at the same time as his contract was ending. These things happen if you aren't as high up the food chain as other clubs.

 

 

That argument doesn't wash. He's gone to Liverpool who've shown bucketloads of ambition after Enrique was in the Newcastle team that gave them an arse-kicking last December. It's hardly light years apart, we were better than them mainly by virtue of having an unplayable striker in the team, now the opposite is true and he has watched it happen.

 

It's fuck all to do with the food chain and everything to do with letting them nick our best player and pocketing the money. Do you think if we'd kept Carroll but Liverpool had still sold Torres and then bought nobody to replace him and nobody in the summer, that he'd still have gone there?

 

Don't kid yourself because he wouldn't.

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The atmosphere at the weekend was strange. It bordered on the apathetic to the extremely vicious at times. I was in the usually placid East Stand and some of the comments regarding some of our new players were shocking to listen to. People are just waiting to kick right off. I likewise do not know a single person with NUFC in their heart be it those that go to  games or older folk who keep up to date with things via the radio and press, who is happy with things at the moment. many I know look at Pardew as the sinister backstabber who took the job of saint Chrissy Hughton, a mate of the evil Ashley and Llambias, a mouth piece, puppet and above all else, seriously average manager. People are pissed off and a defeat against the unwashed could result in ugly scenes. As far as I'm concerned Pardew can do nothing to win over me. I don't care if he masterminds a 5-0 win over the mackems, he for me is a poor manager but worst of all, a contemptable person, one I don't want associated with my club in the same way I don't want Ashley, Llambias and any other tosspot associated with my club. I long for honest, hard working, decent people with a degree of passion and humility about them. They don't have to be world-class at what they do, I just want to see my club represented by good guys. People like Hughton, Sir Bobby, KK, decent people with the club's best interest at heart.

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