Guest Demba Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I find it amazing how you regular forum folk think you know more about tactics than a premiership manager; whose team are in 6th place. I find it equally amazing how somebody with sight can defend him, I can't wait to see the back of him. Yeah me too, can't wait to be in the Championship again, fantastic division. What? I'm just angry so many people are turning on Pardew when we are in 6th place, how do we know why he doesn't play Ben Arfa? we know he has off field problems and there can be other reasons too, we've also had terrible luck with injuries, and with a fully fit squad under Pardew we could easily be 4th right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Aye ok. It was all to do with the squad, so I'll be expecting a win better than 5-1 next week because this is a better squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shaun Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Pardew didn't get us out of the Championship and wouldn't have either. His record in that division is embarrassing for someone who claims to be a top manager, probably because of his negative approach. Like when he didn't get West Ham promoted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Demba is a liverpool fan... Should probably point that out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Aye ok. It was all to do with the squad, so I'll be expecting a win better than 5-1 next week because this is a better squad. So that manager got us into the Premier League but we're in 6th in spite of this manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Our players are better than 6th. How can anyone defend him after today? Jesus Christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Aye ok. It was all to do with the squad, so I'll be expecting a win better than 5-1 next week because this is a better squad. So that manager got us into the Premier League but we're in 6th in spite of this manager? TBF this manager has had a lot of luck for us to be where we are, he still deserves credit for 6th place though, but he also deserves stick for the god awful football and selections of late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Demba Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Our players are better than 6th. How can anyone defend him after today? Jesus Christ. They really aren't, considering the other teams around Newcastle. With the squad he has available 6th is very good especially with injuries, he clearly has problems with Ben Arfa, or the other way round, which was known when we signed him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Because it comes down to more than 1 game, Wullie. Noone is defending today's performance or his part in it. Oh my god we didn't win! Pardew out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 And if we don't win next week? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Demba Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 And if we don't win next week? Pardew will get all the blame once again, but if we do win, all the players will get the credit. It's a hard job being a manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 And if we don't win next week? Pardew will get all the blame once again, but if we do win, all the players will get the credit. It's a hard job being a manager. Its an even harder job being a troll isn't it derek. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Because we are in the 6th place, if we keep dropping to 10th , they will shutup. The league table is what is stopping them from seeing how we progressed in terms playing football. i often wonder do they watch the games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I dont know how anyone can have any faith in Pardew given our performances this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I think people should get hold of a list of our fixtures this season and calculate the number of games where they think we have played well. I counted 6 where win, lose or draw i thought we played very well. But there were a lot of games i thought we were really poor in even if we won that game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Demba Ba's the main reason we are where we are in the league. Pardew's had a minimal effect imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I think people should get hold of a list of our fixtures this season and calculate the number of games where they think we have played well. I counted 6 where win, lose or draw i thought we played very well. But there were a lot of games i thought we were really poor in even if we won that game. Good idea, might do that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Demba Ba's the main reason we are where we are in the league. Pardew's had a minimal effect imo We are missing Saylor and his bravery in our box too, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I've noticed those that are more critical of Pardew offer good analysis of his faults, the team's etc. and basically debate these things whereas those that defend him have little to say other than we are 6th, we were in the Championship 2 years aho or we have a limited squad. People need to clear their heads of such thoughts and look at our performances, his tactics, the way we play football, our team selections and even his subs. Focus on those things and tell me where he is going right and doing well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Aye ok. It was all to do with the squad, so I'll be expecting a win better than 5-1 next week because this is a better squad. See now you're putting words in my mouth. Credit to Hughton for bonding them but that squad was so full of talent- it even got a boost in January when we signed Hall, Van Aanholt and one of the best wingers in that league. I think citing the Championship season is such a redundant concept, but then it fits the agenda and the means you're after. Pardew won't have a situation like that so we can't directly compare the two. Now of course you're using a more flippant approach with reference to the 5-1, but even that is redundant. They're on an upward turn, with a good manager and a slightly improved squad. They have more than one goals outlet so it's a totally different game. Pardew like any manager has his flaws, but as it stands we're going to finish in the top 10. He gets things wrong, but I bet if you look at some Hughton match-threads there are people saying "Why didn't he do X" or "Why did we try this style?" We've still got a lot of work to do if we want to challenge the top 8. Yes this season has worked, but there are still some players who just can't do what we're after (Simpson, Williamson most notably). Yes this is a blip, but as I feared when he joined- every mole hill becomes a mountain with Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Demba Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Demba Ba's the main reason we are where we are in the league. Pardew's had a minimal effect imo Who signed Ba? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I've noticed those that are more critical of Pardew offer good analysis of his faults, the team's etc. and basically debate these things whereas those that defend him have little to say other than we are 6th, we were in the Championship 2 years aho or we have a limited squad. People need to clear their heads of such thoughts and look at our performances, his tactics, the way we play football, our team selections and even his subs. Focus on those things and tell me where he is going right and doing well? Saying that we've had far worse than Pardew. everyone bar a couple of crazies know he has some clear faults, but he also has good qualities, even if they seem hard to spot right now. i mean most shite british managers would've kept Nolan at the club and built the side around him, whereas Pardew got rid and brought in a more talented player. Of course Cabaye has been misused but at least the intent was there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I think people should get hold of a list of our fixtures this season and calculate the number of games where they think we have played well. I counted 6 where win, lose or draw i thought we played very well. But there were a lot of games i thought we were really poor in even if we won that game. Off the top of my head... Villa away, Man Utd at home, Stoke away, Blackburn at home and Spurs at home. And even there, there were parts in each match where I thought "ugh oh" regarding our shape, tactics and football, as well as use of subs. The best we played was against Spurs in a 20 minute second half display that had for example the very good Kyle Walker basically shitting himself whenever Jonas attacked, or Tiote dominating Modric and Parker together. The players at that time for me played with abandon, and to the crowd who willed them on, roared them to get at Spurs. They were hanging on in the end. That's how we should play in the main, we are capable. Remove the negative and clueless Pardew from the equations and we will play more football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Yeah me too, can't wait to be in the Championship again, fantastic division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Don't think Pardew had much to do with Cabaye's purchase mind, don't think he'd have gone for him in all honesty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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