JH Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Whether it was at the player or at the ball or at the blade of grass on the touchline, Tiote 'lunged' in a challenge towards the ball and the player ran across his path. The referee, and his linesman, constituted this as being 'dangerous play' and he was sent off. The FA will probably see it in the same way and the ban with probably be upheld. We'll lose Tiote for three PL games. End of fucking thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I think this helps tiotes case Gerrards will be contested by Liverpool and we can highlight the massive difference between the two That's a bit like saying Al Capone was a terrible guy, but when compared with Hitler never should have been done for anything/. Exactly. I don't know how the procedure works exactly, but I highly doubt the FA considers decisions made by different referees in different games when making their mind up. 2 quite high profile tackles One significantly worse than the other ( gerrards ) You honestly reckon they will not compare the two if Liverpool appeal Gerrard - hitler Tiote - al capone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Any glimmer of a hope we had has gone now. fwiw (very little), Gerrard's was a more dangerous tackle because it was much closer to a 50-50. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I think this helps tiotes case Gerrards will be contested by Liverpool and we can highlight the massive difference between the two That's a bit like saying Al Capone was a terrible guy, but when compared with Hitler never should have been done for anything/. Exactly. I don't know how the procedure works exactly, but I highly doubt the FA considers decisions made by different referees in different games when making their mind up. 2 quite high profile tackles One significantly worse than the other ( gerrards ) You honestly reckon they will not compare the two if Liverpool appeal Gerrard - hitler Tiote - al capone It wouldn't matter one bit even if they did, that's my point. Al Capone was still a fucking criminal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Any glimmer of a hope we had has gone now. fwiw (very little), Gerrard's was a more dangerous tackle because it was much closer to a 50-50. If Liverpool appeal it will improve our chances Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGupter Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I think this helps tiotes case Gerrards will be contested by Liverpool and we can highlight the massive difference between the two That's a bit like saying Al Capone was a terrible guy, but when compared with Hitler never should have been done for anything/. Exactly. I don't know how the procedure works exactly, but I highly doubt the FA considers decisions made by different referees in different games when making their mind up. 2 quite high profile tackles One significantly worse than the other ( gerrards ) You honestly reckon they will not compare the two if Liverpool appeal Gerrard - hitler Tiote - al capone It wouldn't matter one bit even if they did, that's my point. Al Capone was still a f***ing criminal. He was misunderstood, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I think this helps tiotes case Gerrards will be contested by Liverpool and we can highlight the massive difference between the two That's a bit like saying Al Capone was a terrible guy, but when compared with Hitler never should have been done for anything/. Exactly. I don't know how the procedure works exactly, but I highly doubt the FA considers decisions made by different referees in different games when making their mind up. 2 quite high profile tackles One significantly worse than the other ( gerrards ) You honestly reckon they will not compare the two if Liverpool appeal Gerrard - hitler Tiote - al capone Of course they won't. Two seperate games, two seperate challenges, probably to be heard by two seperate panels (not sure how it works). It's completely irrelevant, otherwise they'd all jump into a massive bed, get the popcorn out and watch a copy of 'Football's most horrific Injuries' on DVD, before they heard the appeal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest michaelfoster Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Any glimmer of a hope we had has gone now. fwiw (very little), Gerrard's was a more dangerous tackle because it was much closer to a 50-50. If Liverpool appeal it will improve our chances Your clutching at straws tbh, Tiote lunged in, which was reckless and was his own fault Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Any glimmer of a hope we had has gone now. fwiw (very little), Gerrard's was a more dangerous tackle because it was much closer to a 50-50. If Liverpool appeal it will improve our chances Don't understand all the hype around De Jong's challenge on Ben Arfa tbh. I mean, David Busst's injury was worse... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I'm not saying we should quote Gerrards tackle as a basis for our appeal,however Gerrards lunge was reckless as it was directed at Carrick whereas Tiote's was at nothing but the ball. I don't believe the FA will overturn it anyhow,but they most certainly should. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Why was Tiote's lunge reckless? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Why was Tiote's lunge reckless? Because both of his feet left the ground. If he'd been even half a second out of sync, he'd have snapped the player's leg. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Let's just see if the appeal sees the card overturned. If it's anywhere near as clear cut as some are making out, then it will be overturned no bother. Happy days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Why was Tiote's lunge reckless? Because both of his feet left the ground. If he'd been even half a second out of sync, he'd have snapped the player's leg. He wouldn't have like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 The lunge wasn't directed at the player though?And indeed,the lunge didn't connect with the player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Why was Tiote's lunge reckless? Because both of his feet left the ground. If he'd been even half a second out of sync, he'd have snapped the player's leg. He wouldn't have like. In your opinion. The referee obviously disagreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Serious foul play is classed as when a player "uses excessive force or brutality against an opponent when challenging for the ball when it is play". If it said Serious foul play is classed as when a player "uses excessive force or brutality against the ball when challenging for the ball when it is play". It would be a sending off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest michaelfoster Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Why was Tiote's lunge reckless? He jumped into the tackle, his foot was off the floor so his studs were showing and by jumping into the tackle you lose control of your body and he caught the player after getting the ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 this argument http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldvfpfVhQ91qd2jrlo1_500.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Serious foul play is classed as when a player "uses excessive force or brutality against an opponent when challenging for the ball when it is play". If it said Serious foul play is classed as when a player "uses excessive force or brutality against the ball when challenging for the ball when it is play". It would be a sending off If the player wasn't there, why was he lunging in that direction in the first place? Surely he already had the ball? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Can Dave and Jonny just get off your fucking high horses? It wasn't a reckless challenge, it was a perfectly timed tackle that got the ball without injuring the player. Disgusting how some thinks that red was justified. Saying that, I don't think for a second it will get rescinded, because the FA are a bunch of twats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 FWIW Fat Sam just said referees come round at the start of the season and tell players they cannot leave the ground Dont think this helps the arguement as Tiote left the ground but not in the direction of the player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Should be overturned but won't be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Can Dave and Jonny just get off your f***ing high horses? It wasn't a reckless challenge, it was a perfectly timed tackle that got the ball without injuring the player. Disgusting how some thinks that red was justified. Saying that, I don't think for a second it will get rescinded, because the FA are a bunch of twats. Can't say anyone is arguing otherwise. Nobody has argued otherwise, it's about the force/manner in which he went into the challenge. I'll get of my fucking high horse when you take your rose black and white tinted specs off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Why was Tiote's lunge reckless? Because both of his feet left the ground. If he'd been even half a second out of sync, he'd have snapped the player's leg. He wouldn't have like. In your opinion. The referee obviously disagreed. Wey nar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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