Baggio Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 He's played 134 games in the past 4 seasons btw... Injury prone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 It'd cost nearly £12m alone just to sign a player of Ireland's quality those 2-3 seasons at City. £3m a season, I'd take the risk tbh. The form you talk about was 3 seasons ago, the form hasn't disappeared for nothing. Of course we could sign him and he could find his form again, the chances are that he'll not. With Ireland it’s not just the injuries, he's also got a question mark hanging over his mental stability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 He's been injured for half a season man, the blokes clearly dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Didn't stop us signing Ben Arfa worrying about his injury or temperament and rightly so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 wouldn't take him even at £2m, as he would be coming in at the expense of us going out and getting a better player. He's been poor for too long and was a joke last season, we dodged a bullet by letting him go back to Villa. Also likely to be on high wages, and if we're going to dish out huge wages i'd want it to be on a player that is worth it, like Colo. no more wasters please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Didn't stop us signing Ben Arfa worrying about his injury or temperament and rightly so. His injuries and temperament are only a part of what we should look at, his good form is from 3 seasons ago, Ben Arfa wasn't in the middle of a dip in form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 He was according to some. Ignorant Mick has shown up - just for a change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 He was according to some. Ignorant Mick has shown up - just for a change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Looks like he'll be the cheaper alternative to Erdinc. That would be his main attraction I suspect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 He was according to some. Ignorant Mick has shown up - just for a change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Not saying this is true with Mick, who blatantly doesn't rate the guy, but I can't help but feel that Ireland was say a French player from a random European league, coming in for £2m with similar form and circumstances behind him, there'd be a lot more willing to fight his corner. There seems to be a lot of caution on here when it comes to British-based players these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 The quote does say if we did go for him, itd be an end of window signing. So its hardly like hes a priority stopping other bigger signings. Im sure if we brought in a few very good players & then nabbed him at the end we'd all be quite happy with him potentially being used in a rotation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Not saying this is true with Mick, who blatantly doesn't rate the guy, but I can't help but feel that Ireland was say a French player from a random European league, coming in for £2m with similar form and circumstances behind him, there'd be a lot more willing to fight his corner. There seems to be a lot of caution on here when it comes to British-based players these days. Could be because they lack the technical skills which our counterparts abroad have...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 People label Ireland a nutcase for telling fibs and having chavvy taste yet are more than willing to laud convicted criminals like Barton and Carroll. Silly really, call it short sighted but I'm only interested at the end of the day in what they do on the pitch. At £2million, I'd take a punt on Ireland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Not saying this is true with Mick, who blatantly doesn't rate the guy, but I can't help but feel that Ireland was say a French player from a random European league, coming in for £2m with similar form and circumstances behind him, there'd be a lot more willing to fight his corner. There seems to be a lot of caution on here when it comes to British-based players these days. I rated Ireland while he was at Man City but that was 3 seasons ago now and he's done very little since 2008/09. I hoped that we would sign him when they were in for Given. Since then he's done nothing and we've even got a Villa fan on this forum who hopes that we take him off Villa's hands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 To be fair though, he barely played at Villa so Brummie's analysis is somewhat moot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Not saying this is true with Mick, who blatantly doesn't rate the guy, but I can't help but feel that Ireland was say a French player from a random European league, coming in for £2m with similar form and circumstances behind him, there'd be a lot more willing to fight his corner. There seems to be a lot of caution on here when it comes to British-based players these days. Could be because they lack the technical skills which our counterparts abroad have...... I think Ireland has plenty of technical ability, that's not the issue for me. It's whether he's still quick enough or prepared to work hard enough that I wonder about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Amazing how Cabaye and Marveuax are good signings yet haven't played 1 second in the Premiership. I'd happily take Ireland over both at this stage. Proven at this level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 How how many punts and risks are people willing to take. So far our 3 signings have a large element of risk, with 2 of then with questionable injury records Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 To be fair though, he barely played at Villa so Brummie's analysis is somewhat moot. Brummie's analysis wasn't based purely oh how he'd played for Villa, it was also based on what was going on when he wasn't playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Theyve already said his attitude and work rate was very good while here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Theyve already said his attitude and work rate was very good while here. Was he not threatened with being disciplined for breaching club rules when he was photographed in Tup Tup the night before we played away to Stoke while he was supposed to be injured? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 He wouldn't have been fit to play v Stoke anyway. A total mountain out of a molehill situation. As said, Carroll did far worse yet people turned a blind eye as he did the business on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 He wouldn't have been fit to play v Stoke anyway. A total mountain out of a molehill situation. As said, Carroll did far worse yet people turned a blind eye as he did the business on the pitch. The point is that he wasn't fit to play and had breached club rules according to Pardew. As for Carroll, who turned a blind eye? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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