SSN: Charles N'Zogbia to the mackems off

[PineBarrens]

As fans, I've noticed a lot more comments along the lines recently of "I'd not be happy paying that much for potential incoming player" or "£xmillion for potential outgoing player is a great deal."

 

Why do we care? Its the clubs money after all, it's affecting none of our wallets. As long as we're not going ridiculous like Jordan Henderson esque deals, frankly I'm not arsed if we would be paying over the odds. Sometimes you have to do it if you want the player and that's something that Ashley has never grasped and will never bend to. Its an overly rigid policy that will more often than not see targets slip through the net whilst we settle for third of forth choices.

 

As for outgoing deals, it doesn't really matter if we got £2million or £12million for someone like Routledge. It doesnt affect one bit our spending so any incoming money is almost irrelevant.

 

I've been saying this for yonks, only to be effectively accused of wanting the club to go under.

 

I for one couldn't truly enjoy that mild October day back in 1996 when we howked manchester united 5-0, because in the back of my mind as every goal went in was the nagging concern of our sizeable wage bill. That, and the alarming amount of blokes with centre-partings...

[Mick]

 

Good point. But still...£9 mill is a steep sum (if it's correct) 1/4 of the money from Carroll..

 

It's not 1/4 of the money brought in through selling Nolan and Carroll plus the wages of those two saved over the lenght on the contracts they had remaining.  I guess those two sales/wage savings have brought in £50 million when they are put together.

[Guest]

As fans, I've noticed a lot more comments along the lines recently of "I'd not be happy paying that much for potential incoming player" or "£xmillion for potential outgoing player is a great deal."

 

Why do we care? Its the clubs money after all, it's affecting none of our wallets. As long as we're not going ridiculous like Jordan Henderson esque deals, frankly I'm not arsed if we would be paying over the odds. Sometimes you have to do it if you want the player and that's something that Ashley has never grasped and will never bend to. Its an overly rigid policy that will more often than not see targets slip through the net whilst we settle for third of forth choices.

 

As for outgoing deals, it doesn't really matter if we got £2million or £12million for someone like Routledge. It doesnt affect one bit our spending so any incoming money is almost irrelevant.

 

I've been saying this for yonks, only to be effectively accused of wanting the club to go under.

 

I for one couldn't truly enjoy that mild October day back in 1996 when we howked manchester united 5-0, because in the back of my mind as every goal went in was the nagging concern of our sizeable wage bill. That, and the alarming amount of blokes with centre-partings...

 

Leeds fans probably weren't too when they were playing Valencia in the Champions League Semi-Final and look what happened. We couldn't sustain that spending and wages which is why Hall floated us and Keegan walked soon after.

[Mick]

 

Leeds fans probably weren't too when they were playing Valencia in the Champions League Semi-Final and look what happened. We couldn't sustain that spending and wages which is why Hall floated us and Keegan walked soon after.

 

We were told we were almost at break even last season and have since then brought in/ saved around £50 million.  Nobody is suggesting risking the club by handing out money we don't have as far as I'm aware.

[madras]

 

Good point. But still...£9 mill is a steep sum (if it's correct) 1/4 of the money from Carroll..

 

It's not 1/4 of the money brought in through selling Nolan and Carroll plus the wages of those two saved over the lenght on the contracts they had remaining.  I guess those two sales/wage savings have brought in £50 million when they are put together.

if thats the case then cabaye is on a reported 13mill over the term of his contract,merveaux likewise and then theres ba over 3 yrs isn't it.

 

 

really don't think it's as straightforward as that though.

[Wullie]

Very much doubt Cabaye et all are on anything like the 60k a week some people seem to think they are.

[Cajun]

Speaking of floating the club, what's the realistic chances of Ashley doing the same again with us? Didn't he make a mint doing the same with Sport and Soccer (sports direct).

 

Probably not for this thread and I don't have a clue how these things work but could it be a quicker way to eventually sell the club?

 

I apologise for taking this off topic.

[Guest BooBoo]

Very much doubt Cabaye et all are on anything like the 60k a week some people seem to think they are.

 

30k tops I would of thought.

[Guest]

Very much doubt Cabaye et all are on anything like the 60k a week some people seem to think they are.

 

French press were talking £50-55k when he signed.

[Dave]

 

Good point. But still...£9 mill is a steep sum (if it's correct) 1/4 of the money from Carroll..

 

It's not 1/4 of the money brought in through selling Nolan and Carroll plus the wages of those two saved over the lenght on the contracts they had remaining.  I guess those two sales/wage savings have brought in £50 million when they are put together.

if thats the case then cabaye is on a reported 13mill over the term of his contract,merveaux likewise and then theres ba over 3 yrs isn't it.

 

 

really don't think it's as straightforward as that though.

 

When have we or any other football club ever budgeted for entire contracts in one season? Will the next four years' wages be reflected as a cost in this year's accounts? Will they fuck.

[Guest]

Imo he'd have held on for Arsenal or Liverpool which Cabaye mentioned about if we were only offering £30k a week.

[madras]

Very much doubt Cabaye et all are on anything like the 60k a week some people seem to think they are.

what do you reckon then 50k (13mill over 5 years) or even 40k (10.4mill over 5 years) ?

[Wullie]

Very much doubt Cabaye et all are on anything like the 60k a week some people seem to think they are.

 

30k tops I would of thought.

 

Yep.

[madras]

 

Good point. But still...£9 mill is a steep sum (if it's correct) 1/4 of the money from Carroll..

 

It's not 1/4 of the money brought in through selling Nolan and Carroll plus the wages of those two saved over the lenght on the contracts they had remaining.  I guess those two sales/wage savings have brought in £50 million when they are put together.

if thats the case then cabaye is on a reported 13mill over the term of his contract,merveaux likewise and then theres ba over 3 yrs isn't it.

 

 

really don't think it's as straightforward as that though.

 

When have we or any other football club ever budgeted for entire contracts in one season? Will the next four years' wages be reflected as a cost in this year's accounts? Will they f***.

thats what i've been asking for days, if they are claiming they have accoounted for some of the wages already then how much of them ?

[Dave]

 

Good point. But still...£9 mill is a steep sum (if it's correct) 1/4 of the money from Carroll..

 

It's not 1/4 of the money brought in through selling Nolan and Carroll plus the wages of those two saved over the lenght on the contracts they had remaining.  I guess those two sales/wage savings have brought in £50 million when they are put together.

if thats the case then cabaye is on a reported 13mill over the term of his contract,merveaux likewise and then theres ba over 3 yrs isn't it.

 

 

really don't think it's as straightforward as that though.

 

When have we or any other football club ever budgeted for entire contracts in one season? Will the next four years' wages be reflected as a cost in this year's accounts? Will they f***.

thats what i've been asking for days, if they are claiming they have accoounted for some of the wages already then how much of them ?

 

Who cares, it's bollocks.

[Wullie]

Very much doubt Cabaye et all are on anything like the 60k a week some people seem to think they are.

 

French press were talking £50-55k when he signed.

 

Who are these journalists asking players who they're on and who are these players telling them?

 

I think wages are one thing that journalists take a complete guess at.

[madras]

 

Good point. But still...£9 mill is a steep sum (if it's correct) 1/4 of the money from Carroll..

 

It's not 1/4 of the money brought in through selling Nolan and Carroll plus the wages of those two saved over the lenght on the contracts they had remaining.  I guess those two sales/wage savings have brought in £50 million when they are put together.

if thats the case then cabaye is on a reported 13mill over the term of his contract,merveaux likewise and then theres ba over 3 yrs isn't it.

 

 

really don't think it's as straightforward as that though.

 

When have we or any other football club ever budgeted for entire contracts in one season? Will the next four years' wages be reflected as a cost in this year's accounts? Will they f***.

thats what i've been asking for days, if they are claiming they have accoounted for some of the wages already then how much of them ?

 

Who cares, it's bollocks.

not really as they have to be budgeted for.

[Hanshithispantz]

Very much doubt Cabaye et all are on anything like the 60k a week some people seem to think they are.

 

French press were talking £50-55k when he signed.

 

Who are these journalists asking players who they're on and who are these players telling them?

 

I think wages are one thing that journalists take a complete guess at.

Like you've just done?

[Guest]

Very much doubt Cabaye et all are on anything like the 60k a week some people seem to think they are.

 

French press were talking £50-55k when he signed.

 

Who are these journalists asking players who they're on and who are these players telling them?

 

I think wages are one thing that journalists take a complete guess at.

 

If we weren't offering decent wages, he'd have gone elsewhere imo. The fact we could offer him first-team football and a wage that Arsenal & Liverpool would have given him is what would have swung it imo.

[Dave]

 

Good point. But still...£9 mill is a steep sum (if it's correct) 1/4 of the money from Carroll..

 

It's not 1/4 of the money brought in through selling Nolan and Carroll plus the wages of those two saved over the lenght on the contracts they had remaining.  I guess those two sales/wage savings have brought in £50 million when they are put together.

if thats the case then cabaye is on a reported 13mill over the term of his contract,merveaux likewise and then theres ba over 3 yrs isn't it.

 

 

really don't think it's as straightforward as that though.

 

When have we or any other football club ever budgeted for entire contracts in one season? Will the next four years' wages be reflected as a cost in this year's accounts? Will they f***.

thats what i've been asking for days, if they are claiming they have accoounted for some of the wages already then how much of them ?

 

Who cares, it's bollocks.

not really as they have to be budgeted for.

 

On a yearly basis. How long are you going to bang this drum? It's a cop out.

[Mick]

if thats the case then cabaye is on a reported 13mill over the term of his contract,merveaux likewise and then theres ba over 3 yrs isn't it.

 

 

really don't think it's as straightforward as that though.

 

That'll still leave about £20m.

[Guest]

if thats the case then cabaye is on a reported 13mill over the term of his contract,merveaux likewise and then theres ba over 3 yrs isn't it.

 

 

really don't think it's as straightforward as that though.

 

That'll still leave about £20m.

 

 

Can't believe we're playing this game, but how about Tiote's payrise and 6 and a half year contract in February.

[madras]

if thats the case then cabaye is on a reported 13mill over the term of his contract,merveaux likewise and then theres ba over 3 yrs isn't it.

 

 

really don't think it's as straightforward as that though.

 

That'll still leave about £20m.

and 2 months.

[Wullie]

Very much doubt Cabaye et all are on anything like the 60k a week some people seem to think they are.

 

French press were talking £50-55k when he signed.

 

Who are these journalists asking players who they're on and who are these players telling them?

 

I think wages are one thing that journalists take a complete guess at.

Like you've just done?

 

Indeed but I'm not putting it as fact in a newspaper.

 

We're always hearing that Ashley wants to get rid of players on 50k+ wages, hence Nolan, Barton being pushed out the door, hence not being willing to pay the going rate for Carroll, CN'Z and others... yet we're meant to believe he's just put another three, all gambles, on those wages that he'll probably be trying to nudge out in a few years time.

 

Sorry, don't buy it. If they are on £60k, it'll be very heavily incentivised. I don't have a problem with that in itself, but I do if it prevents us from signing other top players.

[madras]

 

Good point. But still...£9 mill is a steep sum (if it's correct) 1/4 of the money from Carroll..

 

It's not 1/4 of the money brought in through selling Nolan and Carroll plus the wages of those two saved over the lenght on the contracts they had remaining.  I guess those two sales/wage savings have brought in £50 million when they are put together.

if thats the case then cabaye is on a reported 13mill over the term of his contract,merveaux likewise and then theres ba over 3 yrs isn't it.

 

 

really don't think it's as straightforward as that though.

 

When have we or any other football club ever budgeted for entire contracts in one season? Will the next four years' wages be reflected as a cost in this year's accounts? Will they f***.

thats what i've been asking for days, if they are claiming they have accoounted for some of the wages already then how much of them ?

 

Who cares, it's bollocks.

not really as they have to be budgeted for.

 

On a yearly basis. How long are you going to bang this drum? It's a cop out.

whilst i don't think they'll account for them all they will try and budget for them all,maybe not for the full length of the cony=tract but more than 1 season.