Guest bimpy474 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Is the selling of Cabaye as horrible as it might be, not the real problem. It's the buying of the replacement we're all more worried about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 For astronomical fees. If someone bids £40m for Yohan Cabaye, I'd drive him there myself*, but they haven't, and won't. They'll bid ~£18m and he'll be straight on the helicopter. *wouldn't actually drive him myself, as i'm very far away + the money wouldn't be invested back in the team anyway. Ah right, well we're just arguing about the amount then. Personally I would definitely hold out for over £20m, that's not bad for a player who arrived for around £5m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 We were always going to be selling Cabaye - it's part of the mission statement and players always go where the money is sooner rather than later. However we should be in a position to refuse the transfer unless the replacement is in place. We've had a long time to look for a replacement and there really is no excuse if they flog him without one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 We'd lose creativity in the middle but gain it in the wide areas if that happens so six and two threes. From what I've been told about Cabella he'll soon be a central player, perfect for floating around the final third in a free role. I think we'd really benefit from having a proper central playmaker, Cabaye's done relatively well there but I don't think it's his long term position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Is the selling of Cabaye as horrible as it might be, not the real problem. It's the buying of the replacement we're all more worried about. We've got people in the squad as it stands to still do very well, I'm just not convinced with Pardew playing Marveaux/HBA ahead of fecking Shola. That's why we need a replacement because at least we know the chances are he'll play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 For astronomical fees. If someone bids £40m for Yohan Cabaye, I'd drive him there myself*, but they haven't, and won't. They'll bid ~£18m and he'll be straight on the helicopter. *wouldn't actually drive him myself, as i'm very far away + the money wouldn't be invested back in the team anyway. Ah right, well we're just arguing about the amount then. Personally I would definitely hold out for over £20m, that's not bad for a player who arrived for around £5m. I don't give a shit what we paid for him personally. He's an asset that has appreciated in value. Nowadays £20m is absolutely ordinary, and we're talking about selling to a team with more money than sense. I'm going to be displeased if we sell for anything less than £30m. Might as well add this caveat to all my posts: even if we get a fee that I'd be "happy" with, I'm still going to be paying very close attention to what actually becomes of that income. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I can't imagine how bad it'll be to hear Kinnear talk shit if we sell him now and don't replace him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 We were always going to be selling Cabaye - it's part of the mission statement and players always go where the money is sooner rather than later. However we should be in a position to refuse the transfer unless the replacement is in place. We've had a long time to look for a replacement and there really is no excuse if they flog him without one. We might try to get a replacement, but we'll flog Cabaye regardless. We're mid-table, not going to get relegated and don't really want to be in Europe. Why would Ashley care if we get a replacement now or in the summer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 We were always going to be selling Cabaye - it's part of the mission statement and players always go where the money is sooner rather than later. However we should be in a position to refuse the transfer unless the replacement is in place. We've had a long time to look for a replacement and there really is no excuse if they flog him without one. Aye and that's the folly of a transfer policy of selling before the replacement is in. We will always be open to being left short in transfer windows. Why should anyone sell to us so late just because we left things so late. Money talks of course and when the price is up we refuse to pay and would rather miss out. It's a mental policy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 We were always going to be selling Cabaye - it's part of the mission statement and players always go where the money is sooner rather than later. However we should be in a position to refuse the transfer unless the replacement is in place. We've had a long time to look for a replacement and there really is no excuse if they flog him without one. £20M+ will be the reason. The excuse will be that we did not have time to get the "right" replacement in at the right price. "Teams do not like doing deals for their best players in Jan". Despite having a season touting him out to all and sundry inviting offers for our best player, we will not get a replacement as we are safe, likely to get a top 10 place (with or without him) and have no ambition. Instead we will keep the cash, pay 20% corporation tax on the sale (as this will most likely all be profit). Better to reinvest all the profit for this reason alone but we won't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I'd be "content" with the sale of Cabaye IF we used the money to push the club forward (at least in the long term) by for example using the kebab money and sign two players like Cabella and Grenier! But that's the problem, we will not Maybe wouldn't even take long before we might be even better than we were with Cabaye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Is the selling of Cabaye as horrible as it might be, not the real problem. It's the buying of the replacement we're all more worried about. We've got people in the squad as it stands to still do very well, I'm just not convinced with Pardew playing Marveaux/HBA ahead of fecking Shola. That's why we need a replacement because at least we know the chances are he'll play. But if we leave until the last minute we wont get anyone as the prices will be up, and with our valuations already being as rigid as fuck we've no chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Tonight's team news will confirm whether or not this is serious or not I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 tonight? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 “Am I confident (of retaining Cabaye)? No. I don't think any team not in a Champions League position, or fighting for a Champions League position, would be different.” I'm not saying we will get in the Champions League, but we're 7 points off of 4th so arguably we can still fight for the place. What a negative c***. I hate the prick. Eh? What is wrong in saying that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Tonight's team news will confirm whether or not this is serious or not I guess. Tonight, fucking hell is it already Tuesday.........i've been abducted by Aliens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 We were always going to be selling Cabaye - it's part of the mission statement and players always go where the money is sooner rather than later. However we should be in a position to refuse the transfer unless the replacement is in place. We've had a long time to look for a replacement and there really is no excuse if they flog him without one. £20M+ will be the reason. The excuse will be that we did not have time to get the "right" replacement in at the right price. "Teams do not like doing deals for their best players in Jan". Despite having a season touting him out to all and sundry inviting offers for our best player, we will not get a replacement as we are safe, likely to get a top 10 place (with or without him) and have no ambition. Instead we will keep the cash, pay 20% corporation tax on the sale (as this will most likely all be profit). Better to reinvest all the profit for this reason alone but we won't. Might get rollover relief if he invests it in some other non-player business asset Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andybiotics Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I'd be "content" with the sale of Cabaye IF we used the money to push the club forward (at least in the long term) by for example using the kebab money and sign two players like Cabella and Grenier! But that's the problem, we will not Maybe wouldn't even take long before we might be even better than we were with Cabaye. We used the Andy Carroll money to great effect, and we became a far superior side, but I have no confidence at all that this would happen again. Reckon we'll sell Cabaye, get no replacement in, and just hit 40 points, and be done with this season. MIGHT get a replacement in the summer, but yet again, the fat cockney bastard leaves us in a shite position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 We were always going to be selling Cabaye - it's part of the mission statement and players always go where the money is sooner rather than later. However we should be in a position to refuse the transfer unless the replacement is in place. We've had a long time to look for a replacement and there really is no excuse if they flog him without one. £20M+ will be the reason. The excuse will be that we did not have time to get the "right" replacement in at the right price. "Teams do not like doing deals for their best players in Jan". Despite having a season touting him out to all and sundry inviting offers for our best player, we will not get a replacement as we are safe, likely to get a top 10 place (with or without him) and have no ambition. Instead we will keep the cash, pay 20% corporation tax on the sale (as this will most likely all be profit). Better to reinvest all the profit for this reason alone but we won't. Might get rollover relief if he invests it in some other non-player business asset BORE HOLE TWO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Tonight's team news will confirm whether or not this is serious or not I guess. Tonight, fucking hell is it already Tuesday.........i've been abducted by Aliens Ooops. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 “Am I confident (of retaining Cabaye)? No. I don't think any team not in a Champions League position, or fighting for a Champions League position, would be different.” I'm not saying we will get in the Champions League, but we're 7 points off of 4th so arguably we can still fight for the place. What a negative c***. I hate the prick. Eh? What is wrong in saying that? Well us being 8th and only 7 points behind Liverpool you might imagine Pardew would consider us a challenger for the Champions League places Fuck it, 8th is where it's at Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Would people be happy if we lost Cabaye, but gained Cabella AND Grenier? Just asking... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I'd be "content" with the sale of Cabaye IF we used the money to push the club forward (at least in the long term) by for example using the kebab money and sign two players like Cabella and Grenier! But that's the problem, we will not Maybe wouldn't even take long before we might be even better than we were with Cabaye. We used the Andy Carroll money to great effect, and we became a far superior side, but I have no confidence at all that this would happen again. Reckon we'll sell Cabaye, get no replacement in, and just hit 40 points, and be done with this season. MIGHT get a replacement in the summer, but yet again, the fat cockney b****** leaves us in a s**** position. Well, we might have used the Carroll money over a period of 760 years. But i meant it more like if we sell, buy NOW! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 If he does go that hurts my fantasy football team, already had two transfers I did not want to make due to injury. Would put me on -12 before a ball is kicked. Fucking hate Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Would people be happy if we lost Cabaye, but gained Cabella AND Grenier? Just asking... YES, but it would NEVER happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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