Mole_Toonfan Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 You mean play bigi in the advanced role Cabaye has been playing? With Anita and Tiote behind? Is that you Pards? I never said anything about any advanced role tbf. I'd play a flat 3 in midfield with a flat front 3 of Remy and Ben Arfa flanking Gouff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 That's "how it is" because that's the mentality that they've chosen to take. We're designed to sit in mid table and make profit from selling Frenchmen. Well, partly, and partly because of length of time since we've been a regular CL club. I don't want it to happen either, but it's not like we're offloading our best players constantly. I don't believe the goal is to sell constantly, I believe they value stability and their ultimate goal with sales is to sell someone when they're at their peak value to one of the wealthier clubs, looking to make big profits on fewer sales. But I don't buy that Yohan Cabaye would be desperate to go play in France again, if he felt he was at a club that actually had ambitions of getting into the CL, or winning a competition. I think it'd be a different story if it was an English/Spanish CL contender (see Arsenal), but I think his desire to goto PSG isn't out of any great love for PSG, it's just his only feasible option of achieving something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I wouldn't be too distraught if it meant one of Grenier/Cabella came in, I think they'd be a better fit for the current system, in the long run . I just have no faith that we'd get one of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 We'd lose creativity in the middle but gain it in the wide areas if that happens so six and two threes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I wouldn't be too distraught if it meant one of Grenier/Cabella came in, I think they'd be a better fit for the current system, in the long run . I just have no faith that we'd get one of them. I want both Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I wouldn't be too distraught if it meant one of Grenier/Cabella came in, I think they'd be a better fit for the current system, in the long run . I just have no faith that we'd get one of them. Think most people would reluctantly agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 You mean play bigi in the advanced role Cabaye has been playing? With Anita and Tiote behind? Is that you Pards? I never said anything about any advanced role tbf. I'd play a flat 3 in midfield with a flat front 3 of Remy and Ben Arfa flanking Gouff. And leave Remy even more isolated up front? I'd rather bring Marveaux back from the dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 That's "how it is" because that's the mentality that they've chosen to take. We're designed to sit in mid table and make profit from selling Frenchmen. Well, partly, and partly because of length of time since we've been a regular CL club. I don't want it to happen either, but it's not like we're offloading our best players constantly. I don't believe the goal is to sell constantly, I believe they value stability and their ultimate goal with sales is to sell someone when they're at their peak value to one of the wealthier clubs, looking to make big profits on fewer sales. But I don't buy that Yohan Cabaye would be desperate to go play in France again, if he felt he was at a club that actually had ambitions of getting into the CL, or winning a competition. I think it'd be a different story if it was an English/Spanish CL contender (see Arsenal), but I think his desire to goto PSG isn't out of any great love for PSG, it's just his only feasible option of achieving something. Aye, don't disagree with any of that really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 “Am I confident (of retaining Cabaye)? No. I don't think any team not in a Champions League position, or fighting for a Champions League position, would be different.” I'm not saying we will get in the Champions League, but we're 7 points off of 4th so arguably we can still fight for the place. What a negative c***. I hate the prick. So at the moment you think we are fighting for Champions League spot because the table says we are 7 points off. Fucking hell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 That's "how it is" because that's the mentality that they've chosen to take. We're designed to sit in mid table and make profit from selling Frenchmen. Well, partly, and partly because of length of time since we've been a regular CL club. I don't want it to happen either, but it's not like we're offloading our best players constantly. I don't believe the goal is to sell constantly, I believe they value stability and their ultimate goal with sales is to sell someone when they're at their peak value to one of the wealthier clubs, looking to make big profits on fewer sales. But I don't buy that Yohan Cabaye would be desperate to go play in France again, if he felt he was at a club that actually had ambitions of getting into the CL, or winning a competition. I think it'd be a different story if it was an English/Spanish CL contender (see Arsenal), but I think his desire to goto PSG isn't out of any great love for PSG, it's just his only feasible option of achieving something. Ronaldo, Bale, RvP, Falcao to name 4 were at big clubs challenging for titles/wanting to get into the CL, but clubs with bigger money in terms of wages & likelihood of achieving those goals still bid big money to get them. Are you saying Man Utd, Spurs, Arsenal & Ath. Madrid have no ambition? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 You mean play bigi in the advanced role Cabaye has been playing? With Anita and Tiote behind? Is that you Pards? I never said anything about any advanced role tbf. I'd play a flat 3 in midfield with a flat front 3 of Remy and Ben Arfa flanking Gouff. And leave Remy even more isolated up front? I'd rather bring Marveaux back from the dead. Are you not reading? i said i'd play Remy on the left and Gouffran through the middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 You mean play bigi in the advanced role Cabaye has been playing? With Anita and Tiote behind? Is that you Pards? I never said anything about any advanced role tbf. I'd play a flat 3 in midfield with a flat front 3 of Remy and Ben Arfa flanking Gouff. It's just that the last time I can remember us lining up with 3 defensive midfielders was against Liverpool in that 0-6 horror show Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 “Am I confident (of retaining Cabaye)? No. I don't think any team not in a Champions League position, or fighting for a Champions League position, would be different.” I'm not saying we will get in the Champions League, but we're 7 points off of 4th so arguably we can still fight for the place. What a negative cunt. I hate the prick. I thought that, aren't we fighting for Champions League then. Obviously not. Apart from that, the interview isn't as negative as usual tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I wouldn't define Bigi and Anita as "defensive midfielders" tbh. They have a lot more to their game than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I wouldn't be too distraught if it meant one of Grenier/Cabella came in, I think they'd be a better fit for the current system, in the long run . I just have no faith that we'd get one of them. Same here tbh. Cabaye's a quality player but with the pace of some premier league games he can sometimes get overrun. If we get a hefty fee and one of those two come in, it will be decent business IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 You mean play bigi in the advanced role Cabaye has been playing? With Anita and Tiote behind? Is that you Pards? I never said anything about any advanced role tbf. I'd play a flat 3 in midfield with a flat front 3 of Remy and Ben Arfa flanking Gouff. It's just that the last time I can remember us lining up with 3 defensive midfielders was against Liverpool in that 0-6 horror show 3 central midfielders doesn't have to mean 3 defensive midfielders. It should be about movement within the 3 to attack and defend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 You mean play bigi in the advanced role Cabaye has been playing? With Anita and Tiote behind? Is that you Pards? I never said anything about any advanced role tbf. I'd play a flat 3 in midfield with a flat front 3 of Remy and Ben Arfa flanking Gouff. And leave Remy even more isolated up front? I'd rather bring Marveaux back from the dead. Are you not reading? i said i'd play Remy on the left and Gouffran through the middle. My bad, but my point still stands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 That's "how it is" because that's the mentality that they've chosen to take. We're designed to sit in mid table and make profit from selling Frenchmen. Well, partly, and partly because of length of time since we've been a regular CL club. I don't want it to happen either, but it's not like we're offloading our best players constantly. I don't believe the goal is to sell constantly, I believe they value stability and their ultimate goal with sales is to sell someone when they're at their peak value to one of the wealthier clubs, looking to make big profits on fewer sales. But I don't buy that Yohan Cabaye would be desperate to go play in France again, if he felt he was at a club that actually had ambitions of getting into the CL, or winning a competition. I think it'd be a different story if it was an English/Spanish CL contender (see Arsenal), but I think his desire to goto PSG isn't out of any great love for PSG, it's just his only feasible option of achieving something. Ronaldo, Bale, RvP, Falcao to name 4 were at big clubs challenging for titles/wanting to get into the CL, but clubs with bigger money in terms of wages & likelihood of achieving those goals still bid big money to get them. Are you saying Man Utd, Spurs, Arsenal & Ath. Madrid have no ambition? World record bid, world record bid, 1 year left on contract, ridiculous 3rd party transfer with all manner of complexity. And even if your examples weren't total shite, your question would still have been irrelevant, as I have at no point said that we should never sell a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 We won't sign a replacement, Kinnear is out of his depth regardless of what he says; I don't believe he has any contacts in the modern game, certainly not in France, and has the grace of a pissed up baby elephant when it comes to negotiating. Great timing just before two important fixtures, and what should have been 6 points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 He will go for £24m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 In that press thingy about Cabaye, Pardew did say about bringing someone else seperate to Cabaye the club have been working on. Assuming that would be De Jong. Now call me sceptical but we keep hearing that and it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 That's "how it is" because that's the mentality that they've chosen to take. We're designed to sit in mid table and make profit from selling Frenchmen. Well, partly, and partly because of length of time since we've been a regular CL club. I don't want it to happen either, but it's not like we're offloading our best players constantly. I don't believe the goal is to sell constantly, I believe they value stability and their ultimate goal with sales is to sell someone when they're at their peak value to one of the wealthier clubs, looking to make big profits on fewer sales. But I don't buy that Yohan Cabaye would be desperate to go play in France again, if he felt he was at a club that actually had ambitions of getting into the CL, or winning a competition. I think it'd be a different story if it was an English/Spanish CL contender (see Arsenal), but I think his desire to goto PSG isn't out of any great love for PSG, it's just his only feasible option of achieving something. Ronaldo, Bale, RvP, Falcao to name 4 were at big clubs challenging for titles/wanting to get into the CL, but clubs with bigger money in terms of wages & likelihood of achieving those goals still bid big money to get them. Are you saying Man Utd, Spurs, Arsenal & Ath. Madrid have no ambition? World record bid, world record bid, 1 year left on contract, ridiculous 3rd party transfer with all manner of complexity. And even if your examples weren't total shite, your question would still have been irrelevant, as I have at no point said that we should never sell a player. The point isn't total shite at all, the point is that more successful and richer teams always buy the best players of other clubs. How is that irrelevant, it's exactly what's happening here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 That's "how it is" because that's the mentality that they've chosen to take. We're designed to sit in mid table and make profit from selling Frenchmen. Well, partly, and partly because of length of time since we've been a regular CL club. I don't want it to happen either, but it's not like we're offloading our best players constantly. I don't believe the goal is to sell constantly, I believe they value stability and their ultimate goal with sales is to sell someone when they're at their peak value to one of the wealthier clubs, looking to make big profits on fewer sales. But I don't buy that Yohan Cabaye would be desperate to go play in France again, if he felt he was at a club that actually had ambitions of getting into the CL, or winning a competition. I think it'd be a different story if it was an English/Spanish CL contender (see Arsenal), but I think his desire to goto PSG isn't out of any great love for PSG, it's just his only feasible option of achieving something. Ronaldo, Bale, RvP, Falcao to name 4 were at big clubs challenging for titles/wanting to get into the CL, but clubs with bigger money in terms of wages & likelihood of achieving those goals still bid big money to get them. Are you saying Man Utd, Spurs, Arsenal & Ath. Madrid have no ambition? World record bid, world record bid, 1 year left on contract, ridiculous 3rd party transfer with all manner of complexity. And even if your examples weren't total s****, your question would still have been irrelevant. I don't think Cabaye's particularly desperate to leave. I'd say we've progressed further than we thought we would since he's signed as well. And whether we admit it or not, PSG are very close to being at that "elite" level now, winning titles, living at home, competing for the Champions League, playing regularly in the national side. I'd say for a 28 year old those are pretty massive factors whether you think we're not ambitious or are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 In that press thingy about Cabaye, Pardew did say about bringing someone else seperate to Cabaye the club have been working on. Assuming that would be De Jong. Now call me sceptical but we keep hearing that and it. Aye Pardew on transfers: 'We hope to sign a player outside the Cabaye situation. We're a little bit closer with that.' Thing is we've heard it all before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 That's "how it is" because that's the mentality that they've chosen to take. We're designed to sit in mid table and make profit from selling Frenchmen. Well, partly, and partly because of length of time since we've been a regular CL club. I don't want it to happen either, but it's not like we're offloading our best players constantly. I don't believe the goal is to sell constantly, I believe they value stability and their ultimate goal with sales is to sell someone when they're at their peak value to one of the wealthier clubs, looking to make big profits on fewer sales. But I don't buy that Yohan Cabaye would be desperate to go play in France again, if he felt he was at a club that actually had ambitions of getting into the CL, or winning a competition. I think it'd be a different story if it was an English/Spanish CL contender (see Arsenal), but I think his desire to goto PSG isn't out of any great love for PSG, it's just his only feasible option of achieving something. Ronaldo, Bale, RvP, Falcao to name 4 were at big clubs challenging for titles/wanting to get into the CL, but clubs with bigger money in terms of wages & likelihood of achieving those goals still bid big money to get them. Are you saying Man Utd, Spurs, Arsenal & Ath. Madrid have no ambition? World record bid, world record bid, 1 year left on contract, ridiculous 3rd party transfer with all manner of complexity. And even if your examples weren't total shite, your question would still have been irrelevant, as I have at no point said that we should never sell a player. The point isn't total shite at all, the point is that more successful and richer teams always buy the best players of other clubs. How is that irrelevant, it's exactly what's happening here. For astronomical fees. If someone bids £40m for Yohan Cabaye, I'd drive him there myself*, but they haven't, and won't. They'll bid ~£18m and he'll be straight on the helicopter. *wouldn't actually drive him myself, as i'm very far away + the money wouldn't be invested back in the team anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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