Dinho lad Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 And he probably would never have had that injury in 97 anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 If Shearer went to Manchester United he sadly would have scored a lot more goals than he did for us, for us he scored a hell of a lot of goals despite two massive injuries. What utter garbage. Shearer would have lasted 5 seasons max at Man U before Fergie booted his btackside out of the door as soon as his form slipped. Doubt it, Shearer would have been a 10 years man at Man Utd easily, because he'd still have banged them in for fun like he did for us but just as key because he was a leader, a team-player, a strong personality. Fergie likes such characters, i.e. your Scholes', Giggs', stalwarts, real pros. Players who despite their declining form and years, he still keeps around. The likes of Giggs and Scholes were never as reliant on their physicality as Shearer. He'd have not lasted as long at MUFC as he did here. He'd have been on the bench at best, something a personality like him never would've accepted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 If Shearer went to Manchester United he sadly would have scored a lot more goals than he did for us, for us he scored a hell of a lot of goals despite two massive injuries. What utter garbage. Shearer would have lasted 5 seasons max at Man U before Fergie booted his btackside out of the door as soon as his form slipped. Doubt it, Shearer would have been a 10 years man at Man Utd easily, because he'd still have banged them in for fun like he did for us but just as key because he was a leader, a team-player, a strong personality. Fergie likes such characters, i.e. your Scholes', Giggs', stalwarts, real pros. Players who despite their declining form and years, he still keeps around. The likes of Giggs and Scholes were never as reliant on their physicality as Shearer. He'd have not lasted as long at MUFC as he did here. He'd have been on the bench at best, something a personality like him never would've accepted. He'd more than likely not have had the injury he got with us at Everton though, don't forget, so there's nothing to say he couldn't have stayed the player we signed for longer. He'd have scored for fun at manyoo like, scary thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 The team wouldn't have been based around him at Man U. Van Nistelrooj was signed in 2001, and he was far better than that version of Shearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Van Nistelrooj in 2001 was much better than the post-injury Shearer, so what? I said what if he didn't have the injury. Think Shearer proved he could adapt his game, no reason he wouldn't have scored a hatful with manyoo imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 The team wouldn't have been based around him at Man U. Van Nistelrooj was signed in 2001, and he was far better than that version of Shearer. A one dimensional striker who could score goals from inside the box. Hmmm... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 neither of those are accurate RVN wasn't one dimensional by any means and shearer could have played in any team in the world before his injury Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 The team wouldn't have been based around him at Man U. Van Nistelrooj was signed in 2001, and he was far better than that version of Shearer. A one dimensional striker who could score goals from inside the box. Hmmm... Did Van Nistelrooy ever score from outside the box? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 neither of those are accurate RVN wasn't one dimensional by any means and shearer could have played in any team in the world before his injury In terms of getting different kind of goals, he was. I don't think he's ever scored from outside the box for Man Utd..... maybe just the one against Charlton in his last season, but don't quite remember if it was just inside or outside. I remember his scoring a great solo goal against Fulham, though. He takes his goals well, no doubt about it, but not sure about his effectiveness outside the danger area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 neither of those are accurate RVN wasn't one dimensional by any means and shearer could have played in any team in the world before his injury In terms of getting different kind of goals, he was. I don't think he's ever scored from outside the box for Man Utd..... maybe just the one against Charlton in his last season, but don't quite remember if it was just inside or outside. I remember his scoring a great solo goal against Fulham, though. He takes his goals well, no doubt about it, but not sure about his effectiveness outside the danger area. he had a very good all round approach play game though, he contributed a lot to their play - what i mean is you make him sound like he stood on the 18 yard line his entire career Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 If Shearer went to Manchester United he sadly would have scored a lot more goals than he did for us, for us he scored a hell of a lot of goals despite two massive injuries. What utter garbage. Shearer would have lasted 5 seasons max at Man U before Fergie booted his btackside out of the door as soon as his form slipped. Doubt it, Shearer would have been a 10 years man at Man Utd easily, because he'd still have banged them in for fun like he did for us but just as key because he was a leader, a team-player, a strong personality. Fergie likes such characters, i.e. your Scholes', Giggs', stalwarts, real pros. Players who despite their declining form and years, he still keeps around. The likes of Giggs and Scholes were never as reliant on their physicality as Shearer. He'd have not lasted as long at MUFC as he did here. He'd have been on the bench at best, something a personality like him never would've accepted. Shearer wouldn't have had to rely so heavily on his physicality at Man Utd though as much as he did here where he was often our only real option or point of attack. He abused his body in many ways playing for us, often using himself as some kind of battering ram. One of the saddest yet proudest moment I've witnessed as a Toon fan was Shearer at home to Arsenal under Souness where he should have been red carded, a game he played quite ugly, but yet at the same time, threw himself into challenges that hurt him, all for the team. Fergie likes his flair players but he loves his hard men, his professionals more, that's why when any of his players start acting the billy big bollocks he gets shot. Shearer would have been a stalwart of his, another Keane but without the ego or red fuse. Again, he'd have been a 10 years man easily. As for van Nistelrooy, Shearer was a better player than him before and after his injuries, marginally so after but before, streets ahead. Fergie got rid of van Nistelrooy because he was a morose fucker behind the scenes apparently. Regarding the bench aspect, I think Shearer didn't except it here at Newcastle because he knew there was no-one better than him at scoring goals, so I'm not surprised he would never except a role on the bench here. I'm sure being part of a successful Man Utd side managed by Fergie and still contributing massively to any success would, even to a player or personality like Shearer, be more palatable for him. Shearer has said many a time no player likes to be on the bench and that he found it hard, but if the team were winning and he could stillc ontribute, it made it much easier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 neither of those are accurate RVN wasn't one dimensional by any means and shearer could have played in any team in the world before his injury In terms of getting different kind of goals, he was. I don't think he's ever scored from outside the box for Man Utd..... maybe just the one against Charlton in his last season, but don't quite remember if it was just inside or outside. I remember his scoring a great solo goal against Fulham, though. He takes his goals well, no doubt about it, but not sure about his effectiveness outside the danger area. he had a very good all round approach play game though, he contributed a lot to their play - what i mean is you make him sound like he stood on the 18 yard line his entire career He had a good approach play yeah, but I don't think it was "far better" than Shearer's. In fact, Shearer's was better, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 He had a good approach play yeah, but I don't think it was "far better" than Shearer's. In fact, Shearer's was better, imo. same, agreed, it was ronaldo who said that 2001 RVN was probably the better goalscorer at the stage mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 He had a good approach play yeah, but I don't think it was "far better" than Shearer's. In fact, Shearer's was better, imo. same, agreed, it was ronaldo who said that 2001 RVN was probably the better goalscorer at the stage mind I know, I quoted him initially. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 He had a good approach play yeah, but I don't think it was "far better" than Shearer's. In fact, Shearer's was better, imo. same, agreed, it was ronaldo who said that 2001 RVN was probably the better goalscorer at the stage mind I know, I quoted him initially. i know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 He had a good approach play yeah, but I don't think it was "far better" than Shearer's. In fact, Shearer's was better, imo. same, agreed, it was ronaldo who said that 2001 RVN was probably the better goalscorer at the stage mind I know, I quoted him initially. i know I know you know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teohgk Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Shearer must have shagged Ronaldo's lass Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 on shearer i still don't think i ever remember an impact in the English game by an English player that first season he had with blackburn after he signed, he was fucking ridiculous man, the goals he scored at palace away (maybe opening day) will live with me forever he was a force of fucking nature back then, similar to how rooney pitched up at everton to be fair to him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 I don't He had a good approach play yeah, but I don't think it was "far better" than Shearer's. In fact, Shearer's was better, imo. same, agreed, it was ronaldo who said that 2001 RVN was probably the better goalscorer at the stage mind I know, I quoted him initially. I don't what the pair of you have been sucking on, but I most certainly didn't say that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 I don't He had a good approach play yeah, but I don't think it was "far better" than Shearer's. In fact, Shearer's was better, imo. same, agreed, it was ronaldo who said that 2001 RVN was probably the better goalscorer at the stage mind I know, I quoted him initially. I don't what the pair of you have been sucking on, but I most certainly didn't say that. Err, you most certainly did. The team wouldn't have been based around him at Man U. Van Nistelrooj was signed in 2001, and he was far better than that version of Shearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 neither of those are accurate RVN wasn't one dimensional by any means and shearer could have played in any team in the world before his injury In terms of getting different kind of goals, he was. I don't think he's ever scored from outside the box for Man Utd..... maybe just the one against Charlton in his last season, but don't quite remember if it was just inside or outside. I remember his scoring a great solo goal against Fulham, though. He takes his goals well, no doubt about it, but not sure about his effectiveness outside the danger area. He scored ONE goal outside the box, against Boro, and that due to a mistake by Schwarzer who let the ball tumble between his legs. RVN was a master in defeating the offside trap, and that was his forte. The best poacher I've ever seen. But like Carroll, he needs to be fed. Had he played for a weaker team, he would have struggled much more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Thick as pig s****. Edit: Dinho, not Punk - who just fibs a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Thick as pig s****. Edit: Dinho, not Punk - who just fibs a lot. Good explanation, shit face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Ronaldo in a hating our better players shocker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 I never once said or implied that RVN's approach play was better than Shearer's. Get a fucking life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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