Guest Bert Shaft Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I hope rangers fans welcome him with open arms tbh. More likely to welcome him with a razor knife Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bert Shaft Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I hope rangers fans welcome him with open arms tbh. This. Makes no difference whatsoevere, unless some buyer emerges from nowhere lot of idiots on twitter banging on about forcing him to sell but cant understand theres no sale without a willing buyer I really wouldn't be surprised if Fat Fred and his cronies try to get the club back one day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 The clubs been up for sale for 6 years, mental so suggest otherwise so where are these people? Fact remains nobody has actually been interested at a price Ashley would accept. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 He has a price he wants and that wouldnt have changed. To say its not for sale is simply wrong, his 'cash cow' still owes him £129m which will still take a few years to pay off even if he breaks his vow to never do that. Anyone puts up the £250m ish and he would sell in a second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I hope rangers fans welcome him with open arms tbh. This. Makes no difference whatsoevere, unless some buyer emerges from nowhere lot of idiots on twitter banging on about forcing him to sell but cant understand theres no sale without a willing buyer I really wouldn't be surprised if Fat Fred and his cronies try to get the club back one day. Totally agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 He has a price he wants and that wouldnt have changed. To say its not for sale is simply wrong, his 'cash cow' still owes him £129m which will still take a few years to pay off even if he breaks his vow to never do that. Anyone puts up the £250m ish and he would sell in a second. That doesn't mean it's for sale though, just because he'd accept an offer of more than its worth, everything is for sale, in that sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 He has a price he wants and that wouldnt have changed. To say its not for sale is simply wrong, his 'cash cow' still owes him £129m which will still take a few years to pay off even if he breaks his vow to never do that. Anyone puts up the £250m ish and he would sell in a second. That doesn't mean it's for sale though, just because he'd accept an offer of more than its worth, everything is for sale, in that sense. Its the price he wanted when it was officially for sale, that hasnt changed one bit(cue idiot with a BBC article saying he wanted £100m as if he would have written off the debt completely) Its not a matter of what its worth, he has stated he wants the £132 + the original debt on sale from the start. Thats the price take it or leave it and he wont take a hit on it not that a single person has even come close to wanting it anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 They won't do, will they, because it isn't worth that. The club isn't actively for sale, that's a fact, if it was, and he actually wanted rid, he'd market it at its value, like any other sale of anything, ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 They won't do, will they, because it isn't worth that. The club isn't actively for sale, that's a fact, if it was, and he actually wanted rid, he'd market it at its value, like any other sale of anything, ever. In that way then its never been for sale at all and the whole Keith Harris business was a elaborate ruse. With the new TV deal the worth is subjective, its not like 2008 when we were heavily fucked, we are now posting sizable profits. Man City were bought for around £210m in Oct 2008 when they were deep in debt and midtable. Not much difference at all really considering the debt will have decreased by £19m since the last accounts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I honestly don't think at ever has been for sale, no. Ashleys business credentials can't be called into question, he's without doubt one of the best in the country. If he wanted to sell nufc back then, he wouldn't have got shit faced in dubai as was reported. I think it would as a box ticking exercise, personally. When my business ran into trouble, the bank told me to sell my house. I'd paid £300k for it, the market was fucked and it was worth £250k, I marketed it at £300k,because i didn't want to sell, although I argued that what i had paid, and that's what I wanted. It was advertised, at £300k, and the bank got off my back. It was 'for sale', but wasn't 'for sale', if you get what I mean. If I'd really wanted to sell, it would have been marketed at £250k,but I didn't, I wanted a box ticked. Same with us, imo obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Man City are also a poor example to use btw, they're one of three takeovers, that I can think of, which wanted to rule football, regardless of £ (Chelsea and psg others). You can't use the man City takeover as a barometer to how attractive nufc are, buyers like them are few and far between. If nufc was marketed for what it's worth, it would sell, you only have to look at the numerous takeovers of clubs with far less potential than ours, to see that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Sorry if my posts don't read well, I'm ok holiday and trying to post from a phone in the sun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bert Shaft Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 * look at me, look at me. I'm on holiday in the sun, me!* yer jammy sod. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 With his £250-£300k house to go back to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al1892 Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I honestly don't think at ever has been for sale, no. Ashleys business credentials can't be called into question, he's without doubt one of the best in the country. If he wanted to sell nufc back then, he wouldn't have got s*** faced in dubai as was reported. I think it would as a box ticking exercise, personally. When my business ran into trouble, the bank told me to sell my house. I'd paid £300k for it, the market was f***ed and it was worth £250k, I marketed it at £300k,because i didn't want to sell, although I argued that what i had paid, and that's what I wanted. It was advertised, at £300k, and the bank got off my back. It was 'for sale', but wasn't 'for sale', if you get what I mean. If I'd really wanted to sell, it would have been marketed at £250k,but I didn't, I wanted a box ticked. Same with us, imo obviously. Interesting, I've never looked at it like that. What do think his motivation was? To con the fans he was trying to get rid but couldn't? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I honestly don't think at ever has been for sale, no. Ashleys business credentials can't be called into question, he's without doubt one of the best in the country. If he wanted to sell nufc back then, he wouldn't have got s*** faced in dubai as was reported. I think it would as a box ticking exercise, personally. When my business ran into trouble, the bank told me to sell my house. I'd paid £300k for it, the market was f***ed and it was worth £250k, I marketed it at £300k,because i didn't want to sell, although I argued that what i had paid, and that's what I wanted. It was advertised, at £300k, and the bank got off my back. It was 'for sale', but wasn't 'for sale', if you get what I mean. If I'd really wanted to sell, it would have been marketed at £250k,but I didn't, I wanted a box ticked. Same with us, imo obviously. Interesting, I've never looked at it like that. What do think his motivation was? To con the fans he was trying to get rid but couldn't? As if there'd be any doubt whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I honestly don't think at ever has been for sale, no. Ashleys business credentials can't be called into question, he's without doubt one of the best in the country. If he wanted to sell nufc back then, he wouldn't have got s*** faced in dubai as was reported. I think it would as a box ticking exercise, personally. When my business ran into trouble, the bank told me to sell my house. I'd paid £300k for it, the market was f***ed and it was worth £250k, I marketed it at £300k,because i didn't want to sell, although I argued that what i had paid, and that's what I wanted. It was advertised, at £300k, and the bank got off my back. It was 'for sale', but wasn't 'for sale', if you get what I mean. If I'd really wanted to sell, it would have been marketed at £250k,but I didn't, I wanted a box ticked. Same with us, imo obviously. Interesting, I've never looked at it like that. What do think his motivation was? To con the fans he was trying to get rid but couldn't? As if there'd be any doubt whatsoever. Absolutely this. If we were for sale at a reasonable price we would get sold. I don't think Ashley ever wanted to sell. It appears some have fallen for his antics though. He doesn't own us despite his best wishes, he owns us because he profits massively from it, at our expense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosenrot Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I am slowly coming to the belief that the only way to get rid of Ashley is chemo. And by chemo, I mean relegation. For an extended period of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Well, he is known for using the same strategy for "buying" players. It wouldn't surprise me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankles Bennett Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Can't say I blame Ashley now we have the new sky TV deal. The club is in the black but has to generate it's own funds from selling before buying. Ashley pockets £70m TV money each year. In the next 4 years he will have trousered £280 m which is close to what he paid plus the debt. Perhaps he will go in 4 years time which coincides with the end of Parsnips contract too!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Ashley won't be buying Rangers and he won't be selling us that's for sure. The only way he leaves is in a wooden box or if we get relegated and don't come back up or if we all suddenly stopped going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Whether you like Rangers or not it's another victory for the disgusting side of the sport. It could be Sunderland and it would still be taking a chip out an institution that I love less and less every time things like this happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Part of me wishes he follows his dream and buys Chelsea, his true favored club. If Roman somehow got into some bother and needed to sell, I could see MA stumping to buy them and basically not touching a single thing. You know he doesn't give a single fuck about us besides the cash he makes and follows the results of Chelsea (Imo). I've said before - he could easily sell this club if he tried, there are buyers out there in all forms for sports and real estate. The fact is he isn't using an investment bank of global broker (as far as I can tell) so he's limited his pool/contacts and he'd likely want far over what is market for the club. Being he seems only interested in SD & its affiliated brands, I'd imagine he also wants it tied into the deal somehow. No chance does he allow those SD signs to be taken off unless he's getting paid handsomely for that as well. Just my guess here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 If someone offers him the right money, he'll sell. That's wholly dependent on a Sugar Daddy turning up, out of the blue, with a desire for NUFC. Unlikely unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Right isn't it, I'm sure he's been offered right money. He just hasn't been offered the blow it out of the water type deal yet that nobody is going to pay unless the buyer is recession proof and the sport retail business has fallen apart and MA is skint. What is really shitty? Dude is fucking rich as shit and a small fraction of cash injection and big time thinking and this club would be fucking magnificent. Right manager, right signings, right board and proper sponsorship and such. Such an asshole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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