merlin Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 New owners have generally been s*** across the board with the exceptions being when they have enough money to offset the fact that they know nothing about football - Chelsea and Man City. Are you saying they are not partly to blame for the current situation ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 He definitely got it right... http://media.tumblr.com/2e149d09a388e6e132d3caf8aa2bfe1a/tumblr_inline_mf7xx3GEDI1ry4qim.gif Never seen that Keegan interview before, cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Keggie, Yup, seems the dont want to listen to anyone in football but prefer to make their own mistakes despite the best advice they've had. In 20 years time they'll know how to run the club :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 We should sack LLambias and go and get the CEO from Mansfield Town. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 We should sack LLambias and go and get the CEO from Mansfield Town. You old perv you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 We should sack LLambias and go and get the CEO from Mansfield Town. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 You old perv you Looking at the partner of the Mansfield CEO, would that be a bad thing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 You old perv you Looking at the partner of the Mansfield CEO, would that be a bad thing? Nope, it wouldn't be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Hard to see an end to Ashley's spell at the club - would take very big bucks to get rid of him and I can't see any likely source of that. The Qataris are our best hope but they will just wait until things are REALLY in a mess - like heading for relegation - so they can screw Ashley for the best deal....in fact, we could be in the Championship before there is a change of owner. This reminds me of when Villa had Doug Ellis and their fans were desperate to get rid of him but it took years...at least they got Lerner, we got rid of Shepherd and got Ashley... The only decent thing he has done is to take on the club's debt. Fuck the Qataris man. Don't want them anywhere near this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 i'd take the qatari's me like, it'd be a rollercoaster ride until at least 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 tbf, Lerner has hardly be terts amerzbahls I remember Lerner being held up as shining lights compared to Ashley, but I'd say we are now further ahead in the club building phase than them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 tbf, Lerner has hardly be terts amerzbahls I remember Lerner being held up as shining lights compared to Ashley, but I'd say we are now further ahead in the club building phase than them. We'll be behind again soon if things continue as they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Bar the odd blip, Villa are moving forward, albeit slowly. We're stagnant at press. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Villa have a fantastic youth set up which will ensure they stay ahead of us.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Bar the odd blip, Villa are moving forward, albeit slowly. We're stagnant at press. Isn't their model for buying players more in line with ours now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Bar the odd blip, Villa are moving forward, albeit slowly. We're stagnant at press. Isn't their model for buying players more in line with ours now? Yes but they have an academy that can bring through players that are up to it quality wise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Bar the odd blip, Villa are moving forward, albeit slowly. We're stagnant at press. Isn't their model for buying players more in line with ours now? Yes but they have an academy that can bring through players that are up to it quality wise. Haven't so many other clubs including us gone down that route? Just because they've got some good youngsters coming through now doesn't mean that it's a factor which is guaranteed to provide a successful first team. Good to have obviously, but our problems are first team level, the rest is background in comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Our youth set up of course produced Englands latest young big bustling centre forward. Instead of leading the team Ashley couldnt wait to sell him and trouser the money. when are we ever going to see it spent? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Generally think academy production has a huge bearing on luck. For every one player that makes it 1000 don't, and the difference at that age is minimal, sometimes the better players don't shine, and you've gone with another. It's a lottery at times, and probably one of the hardest things in football to get right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Generally think academy production has a huge bearing on luck. For every one player that makes it 1000 don't, and the difference at that age is minimal, sometimes the better players don't shine, and you've gone with another. It's a lottery at times, and probably one of the hardest things in football to get right. It also helps when you don't have Willie Donachie in charge of your bairns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Generally think academy production has a huge bearing on luck. For every one player that makes it 1000 don't, and the difference at that age is minimal, sometimes the better players don't shine, and you've gone with another. It's a lottery at times, and probably one of the hardest things in football to get right. It also helps when you don't have Willie Donachie in charge of your bairns. He's not, he's in charge of the reserves not youth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Generally think academy production has a huge bearing on luck. For every one player that makes it 1000 don't, and the difference at that age is minimal, sometimes the better players don't shine, and you've gone with another. It's a lottery at times, and probably one of the hardest things in football to get right. It also helps when you don't have Willie Donachie in charge of your bairns. He's not, he's in charge of the reserves not youth. Won't help their development though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Generally think academy production has a huge bearing on luck. For every one player that makes it 1000 don't, and the difference at that age is minimal, sometimes the better players don't shine, and you've gone with another. It's a lottery at times, and probably one of the hardest things in football to get right. It also helps when you don't have Willie Donachie in charge of your bairns. He's not, he's in charge of the reserves not youth. Won't help their development though. Eh? When they get to that age they should be out on loan, therefore the problem doesn't lie with the reserve manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Generally think academy production has a huge bearing on luck. For every one player that makes it 1000 don't, and the difference at that age is minimal, sometimes the better players don't shine, and you've gone with another. It's a lottery at times, and probably one of the hardest things in football to get right. It also helps when you don't have Willie Donachie in charge of your bairns. What's the average age in the reserves these days? I'll take a wild guess at 20 He's not, he's in charge of the reserves not youth. Won't help their development though. Eh? When they get to that age they should be out on loan, therefore the problem doesn't lie with the reserve manager. What's the average age in our reserves these days? Wild guess at 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Generally think academy production has a huge bearing on luck. For every one player that makes it 1000 don't, and the difference at that age is minimal, sometimes the better players don't shine, and you've gone with another. It's a lottery at times, and probably one of the hardest things in football to get right. It also helps when you don't have Willie Donachie in charge of your bairns. What's the average age in the reserves these days? I'll take a wild guess at 20 He's not, he's in charge of the reserves not youth. Won't help their development though. Eh? When they get to that age they should be out on loan, therefore the problem doesn't lie with the reserve manager. What's the average age in our reserves these days? Wild guess at 20 It might seem young, but the player has done the majority of his development by then, the only thing to bring them on is games - giving experience and confidence. WD has very little impact, if any on our youth players. The big strides are made a lot sooner, in finding the players with the qualities to make it and youth development. By the time they are 18 they need to be making an impact somewhere or they are being wasted. Our policy to fill the squad of young players with no game time and who get no game time because the manager doesnt trust them, holds us back, not our reserve manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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