Elliottman Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 If people want to get all ethical about it and what they do, alcohol has blighted the lives of literally millions of more people than Wonga ever has/will, and we were proud to have the Blue Star on our shirt. Same goes for any team sponsored by a betting company. Not that I want Wonga, but just saying. I can see where you're coming from but they arent the same situations. Choosing drink so much that it ruins your life is one thing, choosing to lend money because you simply have no choice is another. Is this even happening by the way? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Given who has put an argument towards me (ie people whose opinions I absolutely respect) maybe I am being naive in my opinion of Wonga. I am probably quite fortunate not to have ever had to use one of these companies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Yeah rumours abounding it could be announced today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Why is it absolutely everything Ashley does is controversial? Can't he just for ONCE do something that doesn't wind up or insult the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 8 million a season isn't bad like, plus if they can flog the stadium naming rights, should bring in some decent wedge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Think we need to start chanting their APR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 8 million a season isn't bad like, plus if they can flog the stadium naming rights, should bring in some decent wonga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Think we need to start chanting their APR Only got 45 minutes per half though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Think we need to start chanting their APR Games only last 90 minutes. EDIT : beaten by Gejon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Personally i am not that concerned. If its good money for the club, i am happy. I would prefer another company to be associated with NUFC, but if this is what we can get, so be it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 As long as the deal is financially better for the club than the one we have with Virgin I don't have too many objections other than the fact that Wonga is a lame name. Wonga provide a service that is optional for anyone to take them up on, and as far as I can tell, they give good information of what their service will cost in total, including consequences if repayment is not made. It is a crappy situation to be in if you need money ugrently, but if you know the fix is only temporary, and that you will not be able to pay back within the given time limit coming off worse than you started off, then why loan the money in the first place? What should Wonga do about it? Just write the debt off because they feel sorry for the people that couldn't pay back and go pro bono? They do financial background checks on all people before giving out a loan, and if it is deemed that they are able to pay back the loan (which parameters I assume is not governed by Wonga), why should they get the wrong end of the stick when people are not able to pay back? People are too quick to victimise themselves. If you take up a loan you cannot pay back for whatever reason - tough luck, and try to deal with it as best as you can. Try to broker a repayment scheme with Wonga, get a long term loan from the bank/social services (if that is something they provide in UK) to repay Wonga, loan from family, friends etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 They're not renaming it Wonga? Fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 They're not renaming it Wonga? Fuck. Just the shirt sponsorship from the looks of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Loan danger: Fury as Newcastle prepare to sign "financial predators" as sponsors by Which one of you is Simon Bird? Local MP Ian Lavery has pledged to send his season tickets back if, as expected, the sponsorship deal goes through imminently. Lavery, Labour MP for Wansbeck, has vowed to return his two platinum club tickets and break off all ties with the club. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastles-wonga-shirt-sponsors-spark-1367970 labour MP with a pair of platinum tickets. what a c*** he sounds, complaining about this deal. aye, spending his wage on something he likes, what a c*** Aye and there was me thinking that Labour members had no choice but spend every weekend down pit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Bird can't even get our current sponsor right. Pathetic wanker that he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hydeous Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 No St Wonga's Park then. I'm sad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 No St Wonga's Park then. I'm sad. Preferred the Wongadome tbh. I find this moralising over Wonga being our new sponsor pretty pathetic, especially as it is only being done because they're not a fashionable brand name. Would there be the same outcry if Nike, with their history of exploiting children in the third world, or Coca Cola, who have been complicit in terrorising and murdering union officials in South America over the past few decades, were our new sponsors? Would there shite. In a perfect world we could watch the game without being battered by advertising messages from the litany of corporate partners that sponsor the team, the league, the ball etc. but we don't live in a perfect world. We live in a society built on commercialism and as a result we are going to have to swallow this shite. Now if you don't mind I'm off to listen to L'Internationale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 I was warming to the idea of "The Wonga Dome" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 As long as the deal is financially better for the club than the one we have with Virgin I don't have too many objections other than the fact that Wonga is a lame name. Wonga provide a service that is optional for anyone to take them up on, and as far as I can tell, they give good information of what their service will cost in total, including consequences if repayment is not made. It is a crappy situation to be in if you need money ugrently, but if you know the fix is only temporary, and that you will not be able to pay back within the given time limit coming off worse than you started off, then why loan the money in the first place? What should Wonga do about it? Just write the debt off because they feel sorry for the people that couldn't pay back and go pro bono? They do financial background checks on all people before giving out a loan, and if it is deemed that they are able to pay back the loan (which parameters I assume is not governed by Wonga), why should they get the wrong end of the stick when people are not able to pay back? People are too quick to victimise themselves. If you take up a loan you cannot pay back for whatever reason - tough luck, and try to deal with it as best as you can. Try to broker a repayment scheme with Wonga, get a long term loan from the bank/social services (if that is something they provide in UK) to repay Wonga, loan from family, friends etc. I understand the sentiment expressed here and I agree with you on the self-victimisation point. However first of all Wonga is essentially a Shylock business. If you went to a mate because you were desperate and they offered you the same terms you would think they were a terrible human being. Secondly a significant proportion of the people who find themselves reliant on these services don't possess competent skills of judgement in the first place and therefore any business that takes advantage of that is pretty shameful. In my personal experience the background checks performed are negligible too. There is a point to be made about the inequality of bargaining power as regards to whats fair. That being said we are talking about football sponsorship. There is a fair bit of moral bankruptcy present in football. Wonga's proposed sponsorship is a drop in the Ocean compared to all the other things that are wrong in the game. Also its capitalism at the end of the day. Most business make their money through exploitation. Im certain that a lot of what I am wearing right now has come from people who were exploited. We just choose to shut our eyes to it and pick up on little bits and pieces once in a while, like a little virtuous valve that says we're still good people. At the end of the day its a rubbish name that will look bad on shirts and as football fans that's all we ought to be bothered about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 I was warming to the idea of "The Wonga Dome" Love it!!!! http://blogs.houstonpress.com/artattack/mad-max-tina-turner-everett-500.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Just having a chat with a 'scouser at work' about the Wonga thing. It's not as if this company are a bunch of crocks. The are a legitimate company that are governed by rules set out by law. Ok they do prey on the vulnerable somewhat. But going to Wonga for this sort of thing is better than going to a loan shark for it. There are better sponsors out there but if this is the best we can attract then so be it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toondave Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 The whole league is sponsored by fokn barclays man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Sport direct arena, Wonga Stadium, Virgin Money, Wonga....provided the money goes towards bringing quality players through the door I couldnt give a s**** who our sponsors are. Wether or not the money goes into transfers is a different matter altogethor, but who's to say if we'd had the extra 8 million 3 months ago we wouldnt have signd Debuchy, Luuk De Jong and Douglas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Not forgetting sports kits made in sweat shops Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Or Northern Rock offering 125% mortages to anyone who could sign their name Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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