jdckelly Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Still don't quite get how advertising their perfectly legal business is preying on the vulnerable. I'd be interested in seeing some stats on where the majority of the money they lend goes but I would imagine that's not freely available. Their service, the amounts they lend and the high charges they levy literally couldn't be any easier to understand; what are they concealing or misleading people with? If the adverts are inappropriate then the ASA should be doing something about it btw. Otherwise, people clearly believe the charges are acceptable or they wouldn't be agreeing to them. Or are we saying that people are so fucking dense that they need protecting from their own thought processes and decisions? Wonga and the like are obviously charging as much as people are willing to pay. Ultimately what's the difference between doing what they're doing and Apple charging £529 for a phone that costs them £129 to make? Or Nike charging £100 for a pair of trainers that costs them £5 to make? Where do we draw the line between a business making a fair profit and being immoral? Sums up my opinion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Moneyformongols.com Still, i guess principles are a luxury these days. And as such are eligible for VAT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Still don't quite get how advertising their perfectly legal business is preying on the vulnerable. I'd be interested in seeing some stats on where the majority of the money they lend goes but I would imagine that's not freely available. Their service, the amounts they lend and the high charges they levy literally couldn't be any easier to understand; what are they concealing or misleading people with? If the adverts are inappropriate then the ASA should be doing something about it btw. Otherwise, people clearly believe the charges are acceptable or they wouldn't be agreeing to them. Or are we saying that people are so f***ing dense that they need protecting from their own thought processes and decisions? Wonga and the like are obviously charging as much as people are willing to pay. Ultimately what's the difference between doing what they're doing and Apple charging £529 for a phone that costs them £129 to make? Or Nike charging £100 for a pair of trainers that costs them £5 to make? Where do we draw the line between a business making a fair profit and being immoral? They have done in the past, the problem is that by the time the ASA react it's too late for many. As for them charging as much as people are willing to pay, desperate people do desperate things, and I know not every customer is dong it because they've no food to eat. Can you give an example? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Still don't quite get how advertising their perfectly legal business is preying on the vulnerable. I'd be interested in seeing some stats on where the majority of the money they lend goes but I would imagine that's not freely available. Their service, the amounts they lend and the high charges they levy literally couldn't be any easier to understand; what are they concealing or misleading people with? If the adverts are inappropriate then the ASA should be doing something about it btw. Otherwise, people clearly believe the charges are acceptable or they wouldn't be agreeing to them. Or are we saying that people are so f***ing dense that they need protecting from their own thought processes and decisions? Wonga and the like are obviously charging as much as people are willing to pay. Ultimately what's the difference between doing what they're doing and Apple charging £529 for a phone that costs them £129 to make? Or Nike charging £100 for a pair of trainers that costs them £5 to make? Where do we draw the line between a business making a fair profit and being immoral? They have done in the past, the problem is that by the time the ASA react it's too late for many. As for them charging as much as people are willing to pay, desperate people do desperate things, and I know not every customer is dong it because they've no food to eat. Can you give an example? http://www.brandrepublic.com/go/news/article/1015873/loans-company-wonga-rapped-light-hearted-ads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Still don't quite get how advertising their perfectly legal business is preying on the vulnerable. I'd be interested in seeing some stats on where the majority of the money they lend goes but I would imagine that's not freely available. Their service, the amounts they lend and the high charges they levy literally couldn't be any easier to understand; what are they concealing or misleading people with? If the adverts are inappropriate then the ASA should be doing something about it btw. Otherwise, people clearly believe the charges are acceptable or they wouldn't be agreeing to them. Or are we saying that people are so f***ing dense that they need protecting from their own thought processes and decisions? Wonga and the like are obviously charging as much as people are willing to pay. Ultimately what's the difference between doing what they're doing and Apple charging £529 for a phone that costs them £129 to make? Or Nike charging £100 for a pair of trainers that costs them £5 to make? Where do we draw the line between a business making a fair profit and being immoral? They have done in the past, the problem is that by the time the ASA react it's too late for many. As for them charging as much as people are willing to pay, desperate people do desperate things, and I know not every customer is dong it because they've no food to eat. Can you give an example? Yeah Barca are sponsored by Unicef. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuneaton Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 mike ashleys not scared of the ASA. whoever they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 is that 4 year £24m figure quoted correct? £6m a year for shirt and stadium sounds wank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuneaton Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 is that 4 year £24m figure quoted correct? £6m a year for shirt and stadium sounds w*** seriously? its to only to sponsor it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Spurs get 15m a year for the shirt alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Still don't quite get how advertising their perfectly legal business is preying on the vulnerable. I'd be interested in seeing some stats on where the majority of the money they lend goes but I would imagine that's not freely available. Their service, the amounts they lend and the high charges they levy literally couldn't be any easier to understand; what are they concealing or misleading people with? If the adverts are inappropriate then the ASA should be doing something about it btw. Otherwise, people clearly believe the charges are acceptable or they wouldn't be agreeing to them. Or are we saying that people are so f***ing dense that they need protecting from their own thought processes and decisions? Wonga and the like are obviously charging as much as people are willing to pay. Ultimately what's the difference between doing what they're doing and Apple charging £529 for a phone that costs them £129 to make? Or Nike charging £100 for a pair of trainers that costs them £5 to make? Where do we draw the line between a business making a fair profit and being immoral? They have done in the past, the problem is that by the time the ASA react it's too late for many. As for them charging as much as people are willing to pay, desperate people do desperate things, and I know not every customer is dong it because they've no food to eat. Can you give an example? http://www.brandrepublic.com/go/news/article/1015873/loans-company-wonga-rapped-light-hearted-ads Sorry like, but that's a crock of shit, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Coffee shops are another good one btw. FIVE QUID for some warm water with a sprinkle of flavouring. Even more if you're in a train station or airport. Now that's fucking immoral. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Notice a "Newcastle supporting" local MP jumped on the bandwagon yesterday with a cheap rent-a-quote-buy-a-vote interview. Maybe if he'd been a little more vociferous when Gordon Brown, Ed Balls and Co. were kissing the bankers arses, mortgaging the UK to eternity, ruining the NHS with their PFI's and introducing back door legislation that has made the UK the money laundering capital of the world, then there'd be a lot fewer desperate people needing pay day loans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Coffee shops are another good one btw. FIVE QUID for some warm water with a sprinkle of flavouring. Even more if you're in a train station or airport. Now that's fucking immoral. Flogging popcorn at cinemas is the biggest mark-up iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Coffee shops are another good one btw. FIVE QUID for some warm water with a sprinkle of flavouring. Even more if you're in a train station or airport. Now that's fucking immoral. Paid equivalent to £11 at Geneva airport for a sandwich. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuneaton Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Spurs get 15m a year for the shirt alone. thats alot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Spurs get 15m a year for the shirt alone. thats alot. Cause they're not run by barrow boys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Still don't quite get how advertising their perfectly legal business is preying on the vulnerable. I'd be interested in seeing some stats on where the majority of the money they lend goes but I would imagine that's not freely available. Their service, the amounts they lend and the high charges they levy literally couldn't be any easier to understand; what are they concealing or misleading people with? If the adverts are inappropriate then the ASA should be doing something about it btw. Otherwise, people clearly believe the charges are acceptable or they wouldn't be agreeing to them. Or are we saying that people are so fucking dense that they need protecting from their own thought processes and decisions? Wonga and the like are obviously charging as much as people are willing to pay. Ultimately what's the difference between doing what they're doing and Apple charging £529 for a phone that costs them £129 to make? Or Nike charging £100 for a pair of trainers that costs them £5 to make? Where do we draw the line between a business making a fair profit and being immoral? most sensible post I've seen. wp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Coffee shops are another good one btw. FIVE QUID for some warm water with a sprinkle of flavouring. Even more if you're in a train station or airport. Now that's f***ing immoral. 18 and 24 month contracts on mobiles and broadband. "Oh you lost your job, fuck you, pay us" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Coffee shops are another good one btw. FIVE QUID for some warm water with a sprinkle of flavouring. Even more if you're in a train station or airport. Now that's fucking immoral. Flogging popcorn at cinemas is the biggest mark-up iirc. Bag of popcorn, I'm sure the bag costs more than the actual popcorn. It's like 4p per bagful and they sell it for £4.50 or something. It's mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Emirates Genting Casinos Samsung Chang FxPro Standard Chartered Etihad Airways Aon Aviva AirAsia Waitrose aap3 Bet365 Invest in Africa 32Red Aurasma (Investec) Zoopla! Sbobet 12BET Let the mud-slinging begin. I lost a freebet on Bet365 the other day God knows how much wormy and Neil have been preyed upon, those VULTURES. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Spurs get 15m a year for the shirt alone. thats alot. Cause they're not run by barrow boys. http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/28081349.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Coffee shops are another good one btw. FIVE QUID for some warm water with a sprinkle of flavouring. Even more if you're in a train station or airport. Now that's f***ing immoral. Flogging popcorn at cinemas is the biggest mark-up iirc. Yep. Costs about a penny for what you pay a fiver for. Next one is disposable razor blades. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Emirates Genting Casinos Samsung Chang FxPro Standard Chartered Etihad Airways Aon Aviva AirAsia Waitrose aap3 Bet365 Invest in Africa 32Red Aurasma (Investec) Zoopla! Sbobet 12BET Let the mud-slinging begin. I lost a freebet on Bet365 the other day God knows how much wormy and Neil have been preyed upon, those VULTURES. Waitrose ffs! The most extortionate supermarket going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Notice a "Newcastle supporting" local MP jumped on the bandwagon yesterday with a cheap rent-a-quote-buy-a-vote interview. Maybe if he'd been a little more vociferous when Gordon Brown, Ed Balls and Co. were kissing the bankers arses, mortgaging the UK to eternity, ruining the NHS with their PFI's and introducing back door legislation that has made the UK the money laundering capital of the world, then there'd be a lot fewer desperate people needing pay day loans. Rightly or wrongly, I instinctively blame many of present society's ills on the claim culture that I think spread over from the States and the 'no win no fee' litigation around the turn of the millenium. People don't seem to want to take responsibility for anything any more; there's always someone to blame or a so-called easy way out of your problems, and it's the only way. I might be barking up the wrong tree with this completely, but I genuinely don't think it was a good thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuneaton Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Emirates Genting Casinos Samsung Chang FxPro Standard Chartered Etihad Airways Aon Aviva AirAsia Waitrose aap3 Bet365 Invest in Africa 32Red Aurasma (Investec) Zoopla! Sbobet 12BET Let the mud-slinging begin. I lost a freebet on Bet365 the other day God knows how much wormy and Neil have been preyed upon, those VULTURES. Waitrose ffs! The most extortionate supermarket going. some of the food in there is the bollocks though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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