Spudil Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Is Pardew still managing this lad brilliantly? Have lost track. Did he just manage him brilliantly for 4 months, then the players gone on like a dickhead so there's been nowt he can do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Kind of feels like Pardew brings Ben Arfa on in games so that he can use him as a scapegoat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Kind of feels like Pardew brings Ben Arfa on in games so that he can use him as a scapegoat. Well he always seems to be first dropped after he starts in a shocking result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 What in the absolute fuck , why would he say that? Pre-emptive strike, just like his excuses (remember when saying he does that was similar to espousing theories on alien abduction?). Ben Arfa rightly wants away and Pardew's getting in there early to try and make it look like his decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 He hasn't said anything tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 I've gotta assume he wouldn't say this. We're bereft of goals, can't win shit and can't play ten minutes of good football. Why badmouth one of the remaining guys that can create something out of nothing. I don't consider him to be a good manager at all, but he's not stupid. Most likely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Problem is Pardew has spewed that much shite about Hatem that fans has lapped it up and taken it as gospel, don't think there'll be that much unrest about this. So Alan, if all your players have gotten better in your tenure then what has happened to Hatem and why is there no future for him? Could it be because you're a bullshitting cock who has no idea what the fuck you are doing? PRICK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 With Benny gone Krul will be sold soon and there'll be no-one left at the club I have genuine affection for left. (Colo would be till his prolonged strop) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Under souness we sold Robert, Bellamy and Bernard, a few of my favourite players at the time. This is starting to feel exactly the same, except i dont blame Pards entirely for the sale of Cabaye, but i will do if Ben Arfa fucks off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 How can he blame Ben Arfa for Spurs?! Comes on for 25mins creates 3 chances and he is still made out to be the scapegoat. Its amazing the amount of times he slags him off, yet we have never heard him slag the likes of Tiote, Jonas, Sissoko or Shola when in poor form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Alan Pardew is the fucker who had Mascherano on the bench for Hayden Mullins. so he can fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Alan Pardew is the f***er who had Mascherano on the bench for Hayden Mullins. so he can f*** off. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 How can he blame Ben Arfa for Spurs?! He's blamed science, he can blame anything....but himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 What's this blaming science about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 What's this blaming science about? http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alan-pardew-admits-newcastle-united-6468956 “We don’t seem to be able to get through this tie (third round day) “For the last three years I don’t know, it’s science against me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexthegreat Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 If he was going to stay beyond this summer a new contract would have been put on the table and he would have signed it at least 12 months ago. There's been reports in the press of a contract offer a number of times over the last 12 months, (most recent was about a month ago) yet still no deal: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2284104/Newcastle-keen-sign-Hatem-Ben-Arfa-long-term-deal-Liverpool-interest.html John Drayton PUBLISHED: 10:16, 25 February 2013 Newcastle will attempt to fight off interest from Liverpool for Hatem Ben Arfa by offering their French star a new contract, according to reports. The 25-year-old has been injured for large parts of the 2012-13 season but Alan Pardew is keen to see him spend his best years at St James' Park. http://www.thejournal.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-keen-re-open-hatem-5873155 Newcastle United keen to re-open Hatem Ben Arfa contract talks 10 Sep 2013 09:05 Newcastle United are ready to re-open contract talks with Hatem Ben Arfa as they bid to tie down the mercurial forward to a long-term deal Newcastle United are ready to re-open contract talks with Hatem Ben Arfa as they bid to tie down the mercurial forward to a long-term deal. United first approached Ben Arfa’s representatives back in July, but the France international wanted to concentrate on his football and getting back to full fitness after an injury-plagued season. I think both he and the club have been fairly certain he's going this summer for a long time now, and this has been reflected on his part in his dreadful physical condition and attitude for most of the last 12 months, and it may have played some part in Pardew's thinking as well. It's a shame, because from about March - September 2012 I really thought his performances suggested he could be one of our greats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 What's this blaming science about? http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alan-pardew-admits-newcastle-united-6468956 “We don’t seem to be able to get through this tie (third round day) “For the last three years I don’t know, it’s science against me. ffs, I didn't think I could hate the prick even more, I was wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 What fucking pleasure will be left at this club soon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Let's all pull that kind of shit in our jobs. "SSR, you're late again this week." "I guess science is against me getting in on time." "Fair enough." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 He hasn't said anything tbf. Yip I think people are over looking the fact that The Journal and Chronicle are banned by the club so can't speak to the manager or the players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Whether or not you think that Pardew is the son of Beelzebub, it's wilfully blind to ignore the fact that there are issues with Hatem. He has admitted as much himself, and no manager has been able to progress him beyond a certain stage, to fulfil his true potential. He's been given plenty of chances, in different roles within the side, and any promising beginning gets followed by a stumble. I enjoy watching him, and from a fan's point of view, I'd like him to stay. But I can understand if the club feel that it makes more sense to sell him and buy a replacement, than let his contract run down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Pardew has never been able to handle flair players. Remember what he did with Tevez and Mascerhano? Strangely, you would think that Mascherano would be his kind of player Expressed my opinion many times about how Pardew got Ben Arfa performing brilliantly then tried to fix something that wasn't broken as he often does but it always makes me laugh when Mascerhano is described as a flair player he ruined. Coached all that skill out of Williamson as well. Come to think of it the Mascerhano/Tevez comparison is scarily similar to the Shola/Sammy one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 He hasn't said anything tbf. Yip I think people are over looking the fact that The Journal and Chronicle are banned by the club so can't speak to the manager or the players. Couldn't give a shit, hope the journal are making shit up to try to make fans get on his back. Best of both worlds ie, hba has a future here, plus, cunty nipples gets some grief. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Just feel Pardew is going to shift back to hoof ball and in the summer buy to reflect that. Ben Arfa doesn't work in a hoof ball side, he struggles to find him a spot in a passing side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Whether or not you think that Pardew is the son of Beelzebub, it's wilfully blind to ignore the fact that there are issues with Hatem. He has admitted as much himself, and no manager has been able to progress him beyond a certain stage, to fulfil his true potential. He's been given plenty of chances, in different roles within the side, and any promising beginning gets followed by a stumble. I enjoy watching him, and from a fan's point of view, I'd like him to stay. But I can understand if the club feel that it makes more sense to sell him and buy a replacement, than let his contract run down. HBA has issues, that's hardly the world's best kept secret. That's we got him for a derisory £2m fee. Still I'd like to see a different manager work with him here, just based on what we saw from him in the season we finished 5th and he got recalled to the France squad. Pardew could always take the more valuable £3m Obertan and work wonders with him somewhere else when he gets sacked hopefully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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