PCW1983 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Who knows? Something might still happen. If it doesn't I'll be a bit disappointed but it's not the end of the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Said it before but I really do think we were expecting an out going transfer (ba, tiote) to fund our deals this summer. That's a good point actually. If you assume the Carroll money was used to engineer all of last seasons incomings, makes you wonder how much 'capital outlay' we actually have or are willing to spend without an injection of cash coming in from a player sale. Then why did we try to buy De Jong before Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Mark Douglas @MsiDouglas @tfeditor1892 Agree. What is the point in tying chief scout to 8 year deal then not signing any of the players he recommends?! Just what I was thinking..... ...but that's what we have been doing, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Said it before but I really do think we were expecting an out going transfer (ba, tiote) to fund our deals this summer. That's a good point actually. If you assume the Carroll money was used to engineer all of last seasons incomings, makes you wonder how much 'capital outlay' we actually have or are willing to spend without an injection of cash coming in from a player sale. Then why did we try to buy De Jong before Carroll. I said makes you wonder, no one knows for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 The implication from O-Nut's post is that the first team players the other clubs have brought in will perform no better than the ones they've sold, when that's not necessarily the case. They've replaced quality with quality. It's not just about numbers; if we'd sold Simpson and bought Debuchy nobody would give a s***. Last summer on the whole, our incoming players were better or on a par with those going out. The clubs around us have all sold top class players, they've replaced them with quality, but to expect Giroud & Podolski to match what RvP has done, Dembele & Sigurdsson to cover Modric's departure, Borini & Allen to replace Bellamy & Kuyt for example, they're big asks. Those latter two examples will definitely happen IMO. Arsenal I agree, they've sold themselves short thus far massively IMO. I understand where you're coming from though. In terms of starting XI we can definitely say we're no weaker, can others? time will tell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Who knows? Something might still happen. If it doesn't I'll be a bit disappointed but it's not the end of the world. my opinion, while hardly ideal if we have the same squad as we do now on sat its not the worst thing thats ever happened Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Who knows? Something might still happen. If it doesn't I'll be a bit disappointed but it's not the end of the world. my opinion, while hardly ideal if we have the same squad as we do now on sat its not the worst thing thats ever happened It's increasingly unlikely Lille or Liverpool will budge on thier prices but then we already knew that. If that's the case it will be frustrating in the sense we've missed an oppertunity to strengthen an already impressive base of players, but this is squad is more than capable of another top six campaign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Who knows? Something might still happen. If it doesn't I'll be a bit disappointed but it's not the end of the world. my opinion, while hardly ideal if we have the same squad as we do now on sat its not the worst thing thats ever happened Problem is, the other teams around us have actively improved their squads whilst we've done essentially nothing to strengthen up apart from Anita. It's all well and good that we've signed players for the future but they won't be ready for the step up just yet. Just have to hope that the likes of Sammy, Tavernier, Abeid, Vuckic really up their games this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 http://i.imgur.com/XLbZt.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I doubt we'd even agree a fee for those old timers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Said it before but I really do think we were expecting an out going transfer (ba, tiote) to fund our deals this summer. That's a good point actually. If you assume the Carroll money was used to engineer all of last seasons incomings, makes you wonder how much 'capital outlay' we actually have or are willing to spend without an injection of cash coming in from a player sale. Then why did we try to buy De Jong before Carroll. I said makes you wonder, no one knows for sure. Aye, does like the mysterious does Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 By the way every time there have been rumours about players leaving, the club have clearly told all of the local journalists that there have been no offers. Have we really done that well to retain our good players if there have been no bids to turn down? Surely you can encourage or discourage offers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Go on Tim son! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 We're resigning Rossi? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Who knows? Something might still happen. If it doesn't I'll be a bit disappointed but it's not the end of the world. my opinion, while hardly ideal if we have the same squad as we do now on sat its not the worst thing thats ever happened It's increasingly unlikely Lille or Liverpool will budge on thier prices but then we already knew that. If that's the case it will be frustrating in the sense we've missed an oppertunity to strengthen an already impressive base of players, but this is squad is more than capable of another top six campaign. First 11 is cabable....not the squad. Seriously lack depth in key areas. Squad was light last year and is even lighter this time round considering we have the extra strain of Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Said it before but I really do think we were expecting an out going transfer (ba, tiote) to fund our deals this summer. That's a good point actually. If you assume the Carroll money was used to engineer all of last seasons incomings, makes you wonder how much 'capital outlay' we actually have or are willing to spend without an injection of cash coming in from a player sale. Then why did we try to buy De Jong before Carroll. I said makes you wonder, no one knows for sure. Aye, does like the mysterious does Ashley. Aye, think the trouble is that the Cisse deal had people yearning for more of that sort of transfer, when really it was all a bit Un-Ashley like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Said it before but I really do think we were expecting an out going transfer (ba, tiote) to fund our deals this summer. That's a good point actually. If you assume the Carroll money was used to engineer all of last seasons incomings, makes you wonder how much 'capital outlay' we actually have or are willing to spend without an injection of cash coming in from a player sale. Then why did we try to buy De Jong before Carroll. I said makes you wonder, no one knows for sure. Aye, does like the mysterious does Ashley. Aye, think the trouble is that the Cisse deal had people yearning for more of that sort of transfer, when really it was all a bit Un-Ashley like. Aye, spot on that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 What was un-Ashley about Cisse? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 We're resigning Rossi? Been injured & relegated club need to sell. Stranger things have happened. Where you read that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I may be in the minority here but I actually think it's harder to crack the top four this year than last. Man City/Man Utd/Chelsea spent ridiculous money. Arsenal will still be there, Spurs still there. Liverpool to look out for. I don't think we're two signings away from the CL, I think we're quite a distance away. Chelsea finishing 5th then winning the CL and blowing £100m fucked our chances, really. Haven't Manchester City actually spent no money? (spent £18m brought in something like £20m?). Also while Arsenal/Spurs will be there they've arguably both weakened, especially Spurs so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 What was un-Ashley about Cisse? Nothing at all. Player was identified, scouted and then signed at / below our true value of the player as with every other signed we've made from abroad recently. (LOL he spent the MoNeY) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 We're resigning Rossi? Been injured & relegated club need to sell. Stranger things have happened. Where you read that? Status quo would suit United boss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 What was un-Ashley about Cisse? Nothing at all. Player was identified, scouted and then signed at / below our true value of the player as with every other signed we've made from abroad recently. Exactly, had a boat load of sell-on value to (not that I agree with this, but it's clearly the way things are done). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 We're resigning Rossi? Been injured & relegated club need to sell. Stranger things have happened. Where you read that? Status quo would suit United boss. GTFO! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 What was un-Ashley about Cisse? The price for me. Taking Colo aside as it was when Ashley first started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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