Heake Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 What is generally assumed to be our transfer policy is sound in my opinion. What worries me is whether the current management structure can operate within it & produce. Debuchy aside, we have signed no-one (Of note) for 12months whilst being fully aware of the need to fill gaps. This does not bode well for our current dilema in which we find ourselves in a "worst case scenario" as far as the rules of general comerce are concerned. We are not in a position to gain value for money - the fulcrum of the Ashley / Llambias buying principle. As a die hard cynic, I fully expect us to come up short with perhaps a "token" old clogger to make the numbers up at the end of a frustring month of rumour / conjecture & dashed hope. The harbinger of doom I maybe, but I fully expect to get relagated without spending good money on a quality centre forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Who is our late token panic bid going to eb this window? I'll go for Carroll or Graham. Darren Bent on loan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest axel Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 What is generally assumed to be our transfer policy is sound in my opinion. What worries me is whether the current management structure can operate within it & produce. Debuchy aside, we have signed no-one (Of note) for 12months whilst being fully aware of the need to fill gaps. This does not bode well for our current dilema in which we find ourselves in a "worst case scenario" as far as the rules of general comerce are concerned. We are not in a position to gain value for money - the fulcrum of the Ashley / Llambias buying principle. As a die hard cynic, I fully expect us to come up short with perhaps a "token" old clogger to make the numbers up at the end of a frustring month of rumour / conjecture & dashed hope. The harbinger of doom I maybe, but I fully expect to get relagated without spending good money on a quality centre forward. Cisse and Anita? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 What is generally assumed to be our transfer policy is sound in my opinion. What worries me is whether the current management structure can operate within it & produce. Debuchy aside, we have signed no-one (Of note) for 12months whilst being fully aware of the need to fill gaps. This does not bode well for our current dilema in which we find ourselves in a "worst case scenario" as far as the rules of general comerce are concerned. We are not in a position to gain value for money - the fulcrum of the Ashley / Llambias buying principle. As a die hard cynic, I fully expect us to come up short with perhaps a "token" old clogger to make the numbers up at the end of a frustring month of rumour / conjecture & dashed hope. The harbinger of doom I maybe, but I fully expect to get relagated without spending good money on a quality centre forward. Cisse and Anita? Cisse 12months ago....Anita?...tidy player so far (if a little inconsistent), but more than that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Who is our late token panic bid going to eb this window? I'll go for Carroll or Graham. Darren Bent on loan Don`t think we could with Carroll anyway with the FIFA rule : "player is only eligible to play in Official Matches for two clubs." in 1 year. If he hadn`t signed for West Ham I`m pretty sure we would have gone back in for him though.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Not sure how Siem De Jong would fit into our team. We have one quality winger and only one quality striker. Signing him means we can't play either 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 effectively. He's a centre forward that drops off the main striker isn't he? Yes De Jong and Ben Arfa behind Cisse feels like it would be decentish. We'd get murdered out wide. Not if we played Cisse there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Here we go, everyone arguing over where De Jong would fit in our team and we havent even made a bid for him, never mind the fact that Ajax would probably refuse to sell him in the January window anyway, particularly for the sort of money we would bid. Its not going to happen period! Agree absolutely - we have just lost out to a smaller club in the transfer market yet people are being taken in by a club story of going for one of Ajax's best players - whose brother, incidentally, turned us down last summer. I've heard of grabbing at straws but this is ridiculous - surely after the last 6 months, people should only get excited about possible transfers when the player signs and appears at a press conference ... This is NUFC, run by the Chuckle Bros, we are talking about..! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamunigeordie Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Who is our late token panic bid going to eb this window? I'll go for Carroll or Graham. Darren Bent on loan Don`t think we could with Carroll anyway with the FIFA rule : "player is only eligible to play in Official Matches for two clubs." in 1 year. If he hadn`t signed for West Ham I`m pretty sure we would have gone back in for him though.. Probably discussed already, but do loans count? There must be plenty of players in the football league who go out on loan to a couple of clubs in a season and also appear for their parent club. I guess it's because the majority of these are classed as 'emergency loans'. FWIW I don't think we will be in for Carroll at the moment, but I am just interested to see if anyone knows the crack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Who is our late token panic bid going to eb this window? I'll go for Carroll or Graham. Darren Bent on loan Don`t think we could with Carroll anyway with the FIFA rule : "player is only eligible to play in Official Matches for two clubs." in 1 year. If he hadn`t signed for West Ham I`m pretty sure we would have gone back in for him though.. Probably discussed already, but do loans count? There must be plenty of players in the football league who go out on loan to a couple of clubs in a season and also appear for their parent club. I guess it's because the majority of these are classed as 'emergency loans'. FWIW I don't think we will be in for Carroll at the moment, but I am just interested to see if anyone knows the crack. Normal loans do count as far as I'm aware, the emergency loan in the football league has always been a grey area since its very existence kinda breaks fifa rules Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miercoles Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Where the fuck is the center back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Carroll is a season long loan, seeing as theres no word on it ending this month we have to assume WHU have got him til summer regardless of any rules on us being able to sign him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Where the fuck is the center back? 'With 14, no player across Europe’s top leagues produces more clearances per game on average than Mike Williamson' What CB? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 St Etienne striker Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang may be attracting interest from Manchester giants City and United, as well as Newcastle, but he has taken the opportunity to reiterate that it is his intention to see out the season in France before moving on in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Hoped we had some back up options for remy. Apparently not any realistic ones, scramble time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taps01 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 EXCLUSIVE: Newcastle plot bold £9m swoop for Ajax playmaker De Jong By SIMON JONES PUBLISHED: 09:04, 15 January 2013 | UPDATED: 09:07, 15 January 2013 Newcastle are planning to bring the brilliant Ajax captain Siem de Jong to the Premier League in a £9million deal that will show their transfer ambition. De Jong, 23, is a playmaker who can play either in midfield or attack. He can also play as an old fashion No 10 and his capture will excite the Newcastle fans. He has scored seven goals in 18 league games this season and this Swiss born attacker would light up St James’ Park. Although a relegation battle appears to be looming, this is no panic bid by Alan Pardew. Instead he sees De Jong as a player who will bring a turnaround in their fortunes. De Jong played in the Champions League earlier this season, with Ajax pitted against Manchester City, Real Madrid and Borussia Dortmund in a tough group. The Dutch international netted three times in two games against City as Roberto Mancini's men were sent crashing out. Scroll down to see a video of De Jong's best moments at Ajax... Skipper: De Jong took over the Ajax captaincy from Jan Vertonghen He has two years remaining on his Ajax contract and while wages wont be a problem to Newcastle, sources in Holland say he is eager to run down his deal and move on a free. Pardew and his team of scouts will have to overcome that and convince him now is the time to move to the powerful Premier League. Pardew is planning a push on the Champions League places next season and wants to pack his team with more quality. It is understood he is particularly keen to link De Jong with French midfielder Yohan Cabaye. Money talks: Pardew hopes to make a statement with the signing of De Jong Pardew also wants to show Cabaye - missing for much of the season with injury - that Newcastle are prepared to buy big. With QPR winning the signing of French forward Loic Remy from Marseille, the move for the much-wanted De Jong is Pardew’s next move. De Jong is being pursued by German Bundesliga clubs and his brother, Luuk already plays for Borussia Monchengladbach. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2262633/Siem-Jong-transfer-target-Newcastle-United.html#ixzz2I2BxwXed Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook Interesting, I know a lot of people disregard anything written by the mail but for me they are the best of a bad bunch when it comes to knowing our transfer dealings. Off the top of my head they were first to report on Tiote'sand Santon's transfers. Maybe there is something in this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Reads like it's been written by Llambias himself, that article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 EXCLUSIVE: Newcastle plot bold £9m swoop for Ajax playmaker De Jong By SIMON JONES PUBLISHED: 09:04, 15 January 2013 | UPDATED: 09:07, 15 January 2013 Newcastle are planning to bring the brilliant Ajax captain Siem de Jong to the Premier League in a £9million deal that will show their transfer ambition. De Jong, 23, is a playmaker who can play either in midfield or attack. He can also play as an old fashion No 10 and his capture will excite the Newcastle fans. He has scored seven goals in 18 league games this season and this Swiss born attacker would light up St James’ Park. Although a relegation battle appears to be looming, this is no panic bid by Alan Pardew. Instead he sees De Jong as a player who will bring a turnaround in their fortunes. De Jong played in the Champions League earlier this season, with Ajax pitted against Manchester City, Real Madrid and Borussia Dortmund in a tough group. The Dutch international netted three times in two games against City as Roberto Mancini's men were sent crashing out. Scroll down to see a video of De Jong's best moments at Ajax... Skipper: De Jong took over the Ajax captaincy from Jan Vertonghen He has two years remaining on his Ajax contract and while wages wont be a problem to Newcastle, sources in Holland say he is eager to run down his deal and move on a free. Pardew and his team of scouts will have to overcome that and convince him now is the time to move to the powerful Premier League. Pardew is planning a push on the Champions League places next season and wants to pack his team with more quality. It is understood he is particularly keen to link De Jong with French midfielder Yohan Cabaye. Money talks: Pardew hopes to make a statement with the signing of De Jong Pardew also wants to show Cabaye - missing for much of the season with injury - that Newcastle are prepared to buy big. With QPR winning the signing of French forward Loic Remy from Marseille, the move for the much-wanted De Jong is Pardew’s next move. De Jong is being pursued by German Bundesliga clubs and his brother, Luuk already plays for Borussia Monchengladbach. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2262633/Siem-Jong-transfer-target-Newcastle-United.html#ixzz2I2BxwXed Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook Interesting, I know a lot of people disregard anything written by the mail but for me they are the best of a bad bunch when it comes to knowing our transfer dealings. Off the top of my head they were first to report on Tiote'sand Santon's transfers. Maybe there is something in this. Thats 2 out of 10,000 players they've linked us with over the past few years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Reads like it's been written by Llambias himself, that article. 'Newcastle hope to make Siem De Jong the next purple at the club' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taps01 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Reads like it's been written by Llambias himself, that article. Not sure why the captain of Ajax would want to come here mind.....Ironically i can only think for the money. How are they getting on in the league this year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Reads like it's been written by Llambias himself, that article. Not sure why the captain of Ajax would want to come here mind.....Ironically i can only think for the money. How are they getting on in the league this year? 3rd currently. Within touching distance of PSV and Twente. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taps01 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 EXCLUSIVE: Newcastle plot bold £9m swoop for Ajax playmaker De Jong By SIMON JONES PUBLISHED: 09:04, 15 January 2013 | UPDATED: 09:07, 15 January 2013 Newcastle are planning to bring the brilliant Ajax captain Siem de Jong to the Premier League in a £9million deal that will show their transfer ambition. De Jong, 23, is a playmaker who can play either in midfield or attack. He can also play as an old fashion No 10 and his capture will excite the Newcastle fans. He has scored seven goals in 18 league games this season and this Swiss born attacker would light up St James’ Park. Although a relegation battle appears to be looming, this is no panic bid by Alan Pardew. Instead he sees De Jong as a player who will bring a turnaround in their fortunes. De Jong played in the Champions League earlier this season, with Ajax pitted against Manchester City, Real Madrid and Borussia Dortmund in a tough group. The Dutch international netted three times in two games against City as Roberto Mancini's men were sent crashing out. Scroll down to see a video of De Jong's best moments at Ajax... Skipper: De Jong took over the Ajax captaincy from Jan Vertonghen He has two years remaining on his Ajax contract and while wages wont be a problem to Newcastle, sources in Holland say he is eager to run down his deal and move on a free. Pardew and his team of scouts will have to overcome that and convince him now is the time to move to the powerful Premier League. Pardew is planning a push on the Champions League places next season and wants to pack his team with more quality. It is understood he is particularly keen to link De Jong with French midfielder Yohan Cabaye. Money talks: Pardew hopes to make a statement with the signing of De Jong Pardew also wants to show Cabaye - missing for much of the season with injury - that Newcastle are prepared to buy big. With QPR winning the signing of French forward Loic Remy from Marseille, the move for the much-wanted De Jong is Pardew’s next move. De Jong is being pursued by German Bundesliga clubs and his brother, Luuk already plays for Borussia Monchengladbach. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2262633/Siem-Jong-transfer-target-Newcastle-United.html#ixzz2I2BxwXed Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook Interesting, I know a lot of people disregard anything written by the mail but for me they are the best of a bad bunch when it comes to knowing our transfer dealings. Off the top of my head they were first to report on Tiote'sand Santon's transfers. Maybe there is something in this. Thats 2 out of 10,000 players they've linked us with over the past few years 2 more than the others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Mail were the first to report Wise coming to the club as well. Best of a bad bunch when it comes to us. I'd take De Jong, never been massively amazed when i've seen him play but he's got superb technique, leadership and a big game attitude. Will know Krul and Anita as well. Would also like to see us try for Ailton from Terek, wouldn't cost a lot and would give us another option from the bench. Similar sort of player to Ben Arfa, but a bit more direct and raw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 'Hey Vurnon what's the football like at Newcastle?' 'Run Siem. Run whilst you still can.' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 We need something through the middle would be happy with de Jong if we also get sissokho and a pacy winger/striker...oh and a cb. We aren't getting any of that are we? Remy deal has nicely distracted talk of a cb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Mail were the first to report Wise coming to the club as well. Best of a bad bunch when it comes to us. I'd take De Jong, never been massively amazed when i've seen him play but he's got superb technique, leadership and a big game attitude. Will know Krul and Anita as well. Would also like to see us try for Ailton from Terek, wouldn't cost a lot and would give us another option from the bench. Similar sort of player to Ben Arfa, but a bit more direct and raw. 28 and big wages I'd have thought. On the subject of Ailton, just had a look at the original's wiki. Fuck me, talk about a journeyman. RE: De Jong I think we'd have to play 4-4-1-1 to accommodate him, he's not going to start at 9 ahead of Cisse and from what I've seen doesn't look mobile enough for wide areas in the way we'd dictate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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