The College Dropout Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 And the fact the PL now has a shortage of physical hardmen strikers. Game has completely changed from say 10/15 year ago. I think Colo/MYM could would perfectly well. The strikers of today are far better athletes; stronger and quicker. It's not about who likes elbowing defenders. If any league should be known for its atheltic forwards it is Ligue 1, and Yanga-Mbiwa is our most athletic centreback by far. I don't think Taylor provides anything more physically than Yanga-Mbiwa offers. He is however, a much more experienced player in this league and a better pure defender. I'm fairly confident in all three of our centrebacks when they are fit. In fact, I quite like the players we have in defence. We really need both of our fullbacks to perform consistently next season though, because neither did last season despite all of their talent. MBiwa has proven nothing thus far that suggests him to be our most athletic centreback in terms of strength and jumping ability. He has really not shown to be very strong and has been outmuscled everytime he has played a physically bigger player than him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Dropout that is why we need a fast CB back there..... Neither Taylor or Colo are very good at recovering once beaten. Its a big issue and has been for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Is Douglas fast? Hasn't signed with Hannover afaik. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Isn't Mbiwa pretty fast? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Never hurts to have more/better options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Isn't Mbiwa pretty fast? Looks to be. Reads the game very well too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Our possession will only improve if our movement does. Most of the time the players are forced in to belting it long due to Cisse being the only player on the move/looking to move into space and a few players seemingly having little confidence in their own ability to retain the ball I think that comes down to the manager at the end of the day. We can blame the players to a certain point, but when the manager himself is publicly yearning for jumpers, tacklers and signings like Andy Carroll it's a clue to where his philosophy is firmly rooted. No doubt he is looking to change it on the surface, the question is, does he have any idea how to do it? And does he have any genuine intentions of changing it even? He always talked a good game but the performances on the pitch always contradicted his salesman speeches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Is Douglas fast? Hasn't signed with Hannover afaik. Douglas is not fast, more of your traditional centrebacks, big and strong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Our possession will only improve if our movement does. Most of the time the players are forced in to belting it long due to Cisse being the only player on the move/looking to move into space and a few players seemingly having little confidence in their own ability to retain the ball I think that comes down to the manager at the end of the day. We can blame the players to a certain point, but when the manager himself is publicly yearning for jumpers, tacklers and signings like Andy Carroll it's a clue to where his philosophy is firmly rooted. No doubt he is looking to change it on the surface, the question is, does he have any idea how to do it? And does he have any genuine intentions of changing it even? He always talked a good game but the performances on the pitch always contradicted his salesman speeches. I think he's tried to move to a passing game, you can see that the players were attempting to retain possession at times last season. But without forward movement from the players, passing becomes difficult, and Pardew is reluctant to encourage forward movement as we all know so we end up with a confused and frustrated team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Isn't Mbiwa pretty fast? Kinda what I was implying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Isn't Mbiwa pretty fast? Kinda what I was implying Then I agree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Our possession will only improve if our movement does. Most of the time the players are forced in to belting it long due to Cisse being the only player on the move/looking to move into space and a few players seemingly having little confidence in their own ability to retain the ball I think that comes down to the manager at the end of the day. We can blame the players to a certain point, but when the manager himself is publicly yearning for jumpers, tacklers and signings like Andy Carroll it's a clue to where his philosophy is firmly rooted. No doubt he is looking to change it on the surface, the question is, does he have any idea how to do it? And does he have any genuine intentions of changing it even? He always talked a good game but the performances on the pitch always contradicted his salesman speeches. I think he's tried to move to a passing game, you can see that the players were attempting to retain possession at times last season. But without forward movement from the players, passing becomes difficult, and Pardew is reluctant to encourage forward movement as we all know so we end up with a confused and frustrated team. We did play less hoof ball in the last third of the season, but still essentially defensive/counter attacking football. Thus like you said limited movement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 I wish they'd do something quick, to make me not think it's going to be as much of a f*** up as last summer. w*****s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Isn't Mbiwa pretty fast? Looks to be. Reads the game very well too. Didn't read it too well when we played a high line against Liverpool (0-6), unfair to pick out one game admittedly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Isn't Mbiwa pretty fast? Looks to be. Reads the game very well too. Didn't read it too well when we played a high line against Liverpool (0-6), unfair to pick out one game admittedly. Yeah of course, I just mean from highlights I've seen of his games in France and that. Don't think he's near his potential for us yet... hopefully this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Our possession will only improve if our movement does. Most of the time the players are forced in to belting it long due to Cisse being the only player on the move/looking to move into space and a few players seemingly having little confidence in their own ability to retain the ball I think that comes down to the manager at the end of the day. We can blame the players to a certain point, but when the manager himself is publicly yearning for jumpers, tacklers and signings like Andy Carroll it's a clue to where his philosophy is firmly rooted. No doubt he is looking to change it on the surface, the question is, does he have any idea how to do it? This - absolutely. Pardew has to go before we will get a more fluid style of play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Isn't Mbiwa pretty fast? Looks to be. Reads the game very well too. Didn't read it too well when we played a high line against Liverpool (0-6), unfair to pick out one game admittedly. Yeah of course, I just mean from highlights I've seen of his games in France and that. Don't think he's near his potential for us yet... hopefully this season. I think he needed the six months he's had in our league (like a lot of foreign players do). He'll be much better for it, and his potential is clear to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 SSN bloke is saying we are interested in Anderlecht CB Kouyate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 I bet he's wily Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 SSN bloke is saying we are interested in Anderlecht CB Kouyate. That was yesterdays twitter rumour, probably just straight from that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 SSN bloke is saying we are interested in Anderlecht CB Kouyate. We are interested in lots of players, unfortunately we are never interested in actually getting them signed. He's fairly decent isn't he Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Add this Kouyate kid to the list of prospective CBs, not sure we need another, but I'd certainly taekwondo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 6'4"! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 6'4"! We have a winner in the Pards 6'4" lottery woooooooooooo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 One year left on contract too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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