healthyaddiction Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I personally would be delighted to see Remy and Bent come in. Bent guarantees 10+ goals if played regularly and I'd imagine Remy could do similar and can be deployed with more versatility. Sinclair would be an icing on the cake but with a fit Ben Arfa, Marveaux, Jonas and Gouffran that's the wide areas sorted. The majority of us are deflated but when you only think negatively, the whole situation feels worse than it actually is. We aren't that bad a team and a couple signings can elevate us into top 8 easily. Easily. I disagree that with Ben Arfa, Marveux, Gouffran and Jonas the wide areas are sorted. I think that Gouffran is decent in the wide forward role but I wouldn't really want him first choice there. I also am not confident about Marveux out wide. Lastly, Jonas has no place in an attacking role in our team at all. Additionally, if we are trying to only sign a couple of players (especially with the excuse of signing quality not quantity) i'd want us to be signing players that are better than those in our starting 11. I personally don't think Bent offers that. I think Remy does and I would be glad to sign him. I also think that signing Bent would help. But I certainly won't be delighted with just those two signings and think we'll regret it across the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Nothing on the horizon still? Great ... I doubt many of us have the remotest faith in Kinnear and feel he couldn't find his arse with both hands let alone a good signing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 A lot of people remain unconvinced about Pards and I think that's certainly acceptable due to the nature of our relative imposion within the space of 12 months. However, you look to Everton in the Early 00's and they didn't half yo-yo until after about 4 seasons they remained consistently within the top 8 until now. I am a supporter of Pardew, I think it's rare to find such honesty from a manager who is open to criticism and willing to share that in open forums with supporters. He should be allowed another crack after his 2011-12 exploits, it's the blokes upstairs who will surely not afford him that. WUM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 A lot of people remain unconvinced about Pards and I think that's certainly acceptable due to the nature of our relative imposion within the space of 12 months. However, you look to Everton in the Early 00's and they didn't half yo-yo until after about 4 seasons they remained consistently within the top 8 until now. I am a supporter of Pardew, I think it's rare to find such honesty from a manager who is open to criticism and willing to share that in open forums with supporters. He should be allowed another crack after his 2011-12 exploits, it's the blokes upstairs who will surely not afford him that. Good luck making that post! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Nothing on the horizon still? Great ... Well we don't know, do we? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I personally would be delighted to see Remy and Bent come in. Bent guarantees 10+ goals if played regularly and I'd imagine Remy could do similar and can be deployed with more versatility. Sinclair would be an icing on the cake but with a fit Ben Arfa, Marveaux, Jonas and Gouffran that's the wide areas sorted. The majority of us are deflated but when you only think negatively, the whole situation feels worse than it actually is. We aren't that bad a team and a couple signings can elevate us into top 8 easily. Easily. I disagree that with Ben Arfa, Marveux, Gouffran and Jonas the wide areas are sorted. I think that Gouffran is decent in the wide forward role but I wouldn't really want him first choice there. I also am not confident about Marveux out wide. Lastly, Jonas has no place in an attacking role in our team at all. Is exactly right. Ben Arfa's the only player in our squad I'm happy with out wide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Gouffran is fine wide of a front three IMO, not Marv though. We need to sign a wide player, but I doubt we'll get more than one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I personally would be delighted to see Remy and Bent come in. Bent guarantees 10+ goals if played regularly and I'd imagine Remy could do similar and can be deployed with more versatility. Sinclair would be an icing on the cake but with a fit Ben Arfa, Marveaux, Jonas and Gouffran that's the wide areas sorted. The majority of us are deflated but when you only think negatively, the whole situation feels worse than it actually is. We aren't that bad a team and a couple signings can elevate us into top 8 easily. Easily. I disagree that with Ben Arfa, Marveux, Gouffran and Jonas the wide areas are sorted. I think that Gouffran is decent in the wide forward role but I wouldn't really want him first choice there. I also am not confident about Marveux out wide. Lastly, Jonas has no place in an attacking role in our team at all. Is exactly right. Ben Arfa's the only player in our squad I'm happy with out wide. In ideal world for me Marveaux is AM/bench, Gouffran bench and Jonas back up for CM or replaced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Gouffran is fine wide of a front three IMO, not Marv though. We need to sign a wide player, but I doubt we'll get more than one. Doesn't create. Did he get any assists last season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I honestly think Gouff was decent considering he just arrived in the country and into a shite team. He seems to have been written off completely on here. His stats probably don't look amazing but that could be said about nearly every player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Gouffran is fine wide of a front three IMO, not Marv though. We need to sign a wide player, but I doubt we'll get more than one. Gouffran doesn't create anything or score many from out there, so he clearly isn't fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Gouffran is fine wide of a front three IMO, not Marv though. We need to sign a wide player, but I doubt we'll get more than one. Gouffran doesn't create anything or score many from out there, so he clearly isn't fine. It's too early to conclude that IMO. Not that I expect any of players to be given any time like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Gouffran is fine wide of a front three IMO, not Marv though. We need to sign a wide player, but I doubt we'll get more than one. Gouffran doesn't create anything or score many from out there, so he clearly isn't fine. It's too early to conclude that IMO. Not that I expect any of players to be given any time like. Not writing him off but he's not a wide forward imo. Not in the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Gouffran is fine wide of a front three IMO, not Marv though. We need to sign a wide player, but I doubt we'll get more than one. Gouffran doesn't create anything or score many from out there, so he clearly isn't fine. It's too early to conclude that IMO. Not that I expect any of players to be given any time like. I've a lot of time for his effort but we don't really play a 4-3-3, we play more like a 4-5-1 and he doesn't really offer much as LW. Doesn't dribble, doesn't cross. They're not really his attributes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I'm loathe to write a lot of our players off due to the fuckwit in charge of the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 We'll see, I'm not saying he was brilliant. But he's positive, he works hard, seems intelligent, has decent pace. I think he has a chance. Anyway, we still need another wide forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Gouffran is fine wide of a front three IMO, not Marv though. We need to sign a wide player, but I doubt we'll get more than one. Gouffran doesn't create anything or score many from out there, so he clearly isn't fine. It's too early to conclude that IMO. Not that I expect any of players to be given any time like. I've a lot of time for his effort but we don't really play a 4-3-3, we play more like a 4-5-1 and he doesn't really offer much as LW. Doesn't dribble, doesn't cross. They're not really his attributes. Fair point actually, as a wide midfielder he isn't as good as a wide forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 We'll see, I'm not saying he was brilliant. But he's positive, he works hard, seems intelligent, has decent pace. I think he has a chance. Anyway, we still need another wide forward. I think if we played as a 4-4-2 he could work as a striker that works the channels, offers and outball, etc. Just don't think we have the midfield for that though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 We'll see, I'm not saying he was brilliant. But he's positive, he works hard, seems intelligent, has decent pace. I think he has a chance. Anyway, we still need another wide forward. I think if we played as a 4-4-2 he could work as a striker that works the channels, offers and outball, etc. Just don't think we have the midfield for that though. Aye, we don't have the midfield for a 4-4-2 really, I like the protection and extra solidity of a 3 anyway. Will be interesting to see how it goes... over to Pards! :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 We'll see, I'm not saying he was brilliant. But he's positive, he works hard, seems intelligent, has decent pace. I think he has a chance. Anyway, we still need another wide forward. Playing wide left in a 4-3-3 with a manager who encourages free flowing football with lots of movement and energy he'd be more than adequate for where we are at the moment. I find it amazing he managed to score a couple of goals due to our lack of attacking play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I'm loathe to write a lot of our players off due to the fuckwit in charge of the team. ding ding ding ding ding... The players aren't the weakest link in the chain by a fucking mile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 We'll see, I'm not saying he was brilliant. But he's positive, he works hard, seems intelligent, has decent pace. I think he has a chance. Anyway, we still need another wide forward. I think if we played as a 4-4-2 he could work as a striker that works the channels, offers and outball, etc. Just don't think we have the midfield for that though. 100% Someone like Bent would be far more of a consistent goal threat, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 We'll see, I'm not saying he was brilliant. But he's positive, he works hard, seems intelligent, has decent pace. I think he has a chance. Anyway, we still need another wide forward. I think if we played as a 4-4-2 he could work as a striker that works the channels, offers and outball, etc. Just don't think we have the midfield for that though. 100% Someone like Bent would be far more of a consistent goal threat, though. Personally, i'd like to give Cisse another season before i made that judgement but you could be right... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 We've got to build our attack around Cisse IMO, he is worth it for at least another season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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